Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.

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**Overread**

Don't forget Imdomitus had the new rule book in it which was basically free.This created an artificially high amount of sales compared to marine/necron fans alone. So some of that stock vanished from retailers, only to appear secondhand at reasonable rates on ebay and fb and forums. So some people who wanted an army and book or both armies got annoyed when it all vanished.

Of course the market had enough duel buys and spare stuff that by now most have what they want - heck UK ebay still has loads of half kits up for sale. £50 can get you a necron half with free postage.

**Arbitrator**

Kanluwen wrote:
They did say that the models from Indomitus would be released later...yet that didn't stop people from griping.

I'm pretty sure they said the sculpts would be unique to Indomitus, but the actual units/characters would be released later - multi-option units, different sculpts for the characters.

The Sister Superior and Librarian were most likely going to be event exclusive models. They wouldn't have even been available to most people who didn't have shoppers for them at events. This is the first year they've done the method they used for those.

And it sold like hotcakes regardless of what it was originally intended for. My point was, people love their SUPER LIMITED NEVER GET-THEM-AGAIN OHMYGOODDDDD BUY IT NOW(!!!) models.

**Tyel**

Taking out the books, Indomitus gave you about £400 worth of models for £100. Did I buy a Necron half for £50? You bet I did. It seems crazy not to. (I could potentially buy a second, because it will still be cheaper than 20 more warriors - but so many monopose duplicate characters feels a bit lame.)

By contrast the Realm Lords box is giving you about £90-95~ worth of models for... about £85? I guess a bit cheaper if you really value the cards and dice.

Surely its not really surprising people aren't falling over themselves to get hold of it.

**tneva82**

Okay on topic anybody know prices of wave2? Particularly big cow. Well somebody knows already but anybody want to share?

**Tiberius501**

I’m going to guess greater daemon price.

**DaveC**

Euro and USD prices confirmed others based off latest price conversions

Alarith Stoneguard €45, £36.50, $60
Alarith Stonemage €32.50, £26.50, $40
Avalenor The Stoneheart King/ Arlaith €85, £65, $110
Dawnriders €50, £40, $60

**Overread**

Ouch Dawnriders are expensive!

**NinthMusketeer**

I get that he is very fancy with his floaty stuff, but $40 for the stonemage is just lame. I was prepared to cringe at battle cattle pricing but $110 is lower than I expected.

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Overread wrote:
Ouch Dawnriders are expensive!

Yeah, interestingly it makes the army box more valuable.

**Kanluwen**

Overread wrote:
Ouch Dawnriders are expensive!

Cue the Lumineth army packs suddenly going out of stock

40+60+65=$165.
Box was $185...so $20 difference. Not actually too bad.

**Arbitrator**

Approaching Blood Knight prices... but in plastic. Christ.

**Tiberius501**

Kanluwen wrote:
Overread wrote:
Ouch Dawnriders are expensive!

Cue the Lumineth army packs suddenly going out of stock

40+60+65=$165.
Box was $185...so $20 difference. Not actually too bad.

Especially when you add in the tome and dice for free.

Also, moo mountain is a lot cheaper than I had anticipated. I was definitely thinking greater daemon price, but $180AUD is weirdly okay, which makes me feel like it’s wrong when compared to everything else haha. Stoneguard are pretty painful, and Dawnriders oof...

**silverstu**

Those are very pricey- the Hammer dudes are £36.50 for 5? Thats horrendous .. the cavalry are lovely models but £40..I'd have to really love a faction to try paying those prices, its harsh even with online discounts..

**tneva82**

Arbitrator wrote:
Approaching Blood Knight prices... but in plastic. Christ.

Well at least it's not 100£ for 5 cavalry. Sooner or later that happens

**Coenus Scaldingus**

Are there indications the mage has any options? The prices are largely in line with what I would have expected after the Sisters of Battle (i.e. "the current price for 10 infantry" etc.), but that mage is even more expensive than the Canoness, and at least she was kind of worth it for consisting of two sprues including a lot of options. If the mage is just expensive because of the big base of which I'd instantly remove at least half (balance on pillar or float on rocks, not both)... oof indeed.

**Tiberius501**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Are there indications the mage has any options? The prices are largely in line with what I would have expected after the Sisters of Battle (i.e. "the current price for 10 infantry" etc.), but that mage is even more expensive than the Canoness, and at least she was kind of worth it for consisting of two sprues including a lot of options. If the mage is just expensive because of the big base of which I'd instantly remove at least half (balance on pillar or float on rocks, not both)... oof indeed.

She doesn’t have any options, no. So yeah she’s just pricey because of the tall base I’d assume.

**Cronch**

cow is cheaper than expected, everything else is either disappointingly what I expected (stoneguard) or somehow crazy expensive (cav, the astonishing rock balancer).
I really want to collect more of the army, but at those prices, is not likely to happen. Can't justify 45 euro for 5 models.

**Ghaz**

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**Mr_Rose**

If that was the cover art for the ltd edition book, I might just have to buy it…

**LiftForSwift**

''Gargants'' is just so dumb. I'll never get over it, just the same with Ogres and Imperial Guard. They're giants! GIANTS!

**GaroRobe**

You know, I felt the same way. But then I realized gargants has been a term in 40k for awhile, so it's not as bad a change as troggoth imo

**Overread**

LiftForSwift wrote:
''Gargants'' is just so dumb. I'll never get over it, just the same with Ogres and Imperial Guard. They're giants! GIANTS!

But we already have giants - these are giant giants - gargants.

**Mr_Rose**

GaroRobe wrote:
You know, I felt the same way. But then I realized gargants has been a term in 40k for awhile, so it's not as bad a change as troggoth imo

And is also derived from the name Gargantua, a legendary giant. Same as the word gargantuan.

**NinthMusketeer**

'Deadwalkers' still exists as a term, compared to that...

**Inquisitor Gideon**

What's wrong with deadwalker? I've been using that as a catch all term for undead for years.

**DaveC**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/24/the-history-of-the-world-titan/

It's looking like Sons of Behemat will be revealed on Sunday for preorder on the 3rd and release on the 10th.

**Voss**

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
What's wrong with deadwalker? I've been using that as a catch all term for undead for years.

Sounds like someone who walks on the dead.
Which is a very odd and limiting method of transportation.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/24/legendary-battalions-update/

Interesting article here.

Now, of course this hobby of ours is a creative and time-consuming one. For those customers who spent time, money, and creative resources building and painting the forces we presented in Tome Celestial articles, not making them ‘legal’ in an ongoing fashion was clearly a disappointing decision – if not an outright upsetting one!

So we sat down and had a good, hard think and realised that a ready-made solution was right in front of us, at least in terms of White Dwarf. Digital back issues of White Dwarf containing Tome Celestial content are available to purchase, and so we have updated the General’s Handbook 2020 designer’s commentary to provide a comprehensive list of which publications can be used in Pitched Battles (2020) without your opponent’s permission

'Here's the actually game-legal stuff out of the slew of stuff we've published.'

**BorderCountess**

LiftForSwift wrote:
''Gargants'' is just so dumb. I'll never get over it, just the same with Ogres and Imperial Guard. They're giants! GIANTS!

And dwarves. Fyreslayers are dwarves.

**NinthMusketeer**

Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/24/legendary-battalions-update/

Interesting article here.

Now, of course this hobby of ours is a creative and time-consuming one. For those customers who spent time, money, and creative resources building and painting the forces we presented in Tome Celestial articles, not making them ‘legal’ in an ongoing fashion was clearly a disappointing decision – if not an outright upsetting one!

So we sat down and had a good, hard think and realised that a ready-made solution was right in front of us, at least in terms of White Dwarf. Digital back issues of White Dwarf containing Tome Celestial content are available to purchase, and so we have updated the General’s Handbook 2020 designer’s commentary to provide a comprehensive list of which publications can be used in Pitched Battles (2020) without your opponent’s permission

Cool, glad to see them go back and reverse this decision. The vast majority of those battalions are not particularly good anyways; they were really for people who put the narrative first.

**Gir Spirit Bane**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/24/legendary-battalions-update/

Interesting article here.

Now, of course this hobby of ours is a creative and time-consuming one. For those customers who spent time, money, and creative resources building and painting the forces we presented in Tome Celestial articles, not making them ‘legal’ in an ongoing fashion was clearly a disappointing decision – if not an outright upsetting one!

So we sat down and had a good, hard think and realised that a ready-made solution was right in front of us, at least in terms of White Dwarf. Digital back issues of White Dwarf containing Tome Celestial content are available to purchase, and so we have updated the General’s Handbook 2020 designer’s commentary to provide a comprehensive list of which publications can be used in Pitched Battles (2020) without your opponent’s permission
Cool, glad to see them go back and reverse this decision. The vast majority of those battalions are not particularly good anyways; they were really for people who put the narrative first.

It finally lets me field my Squig herds and let them come back via the Loonshrine. Time to drown my enemies in endless waves of slobbering cave horrors!

**RazorEdge**

Human living Death Thralls cound have the Faction Keyword "Lifewalkers"...