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Oh trust me, I'm not defending the price point. That's crazy. I'm just saying he's a bit early to complain about unit size when we haven't seen the entry yet.

For the unit size to drop to 5...these DA better cure cancer. Otherwise, like others have said...it's a dick move and unnecessary. Getting a full troop unit as a boxed set is too much to ask I guess. :shrug:

Not the first time they did this. Remember basic Orcs (WFB)?
Went from 19 guys to 10 guys for the same price (or 50p cheaper or something)

 pretre wrote:

 Magc8Ball wrote:
Do keep in mind that Games Workshop probably wouldn't be above misrepresenting (either intentionally or unintentionally) what's in a box. We may not actually know what is in the DA box until someone has one and can open it up.

Oh come on. I know we like to say GW is the devil but do we have any actual instance where GW has said 'There's 5 dudes in here.' and the sprues only made 4?

We don't.

But we have several cases of

"Oh you already have that box? well here is a second unusable sergeant"

 pretre wrote:

 Magc8Ball wrote:
Do keep in mind that Games Workshop probably wouldn't be above misrepresenting (either intentionally or unintentionally) what's in a box. We may not actually know what is in the DA box until someone has one and can open it up.

Oh come on. I know we like to say GW is the devil but do we have any actual instance where GW has said 'There's 5 dudes in here.' and the sprues only made 4?

Not what I mean. There'll be 5 minis in the box, but if there's an incompetent (or simply rushed) copyeditor working on the sales sheet for the release they might not know the difference between "5 guys, one of which is the sgt" and "5 guys, one of which can be made a sgt".

This does it for me.

I used to have a "be faithful to the brand" thing, and I saved up and payed the price and shopped in the GW store.

No more. Pure online sellers for a 20-30% discount.

screw you, GW.

 Magc8Ball wrote:
Not what I mean. There'll be 5 minis in the box, but if there's an incompetent (or simply rushed) copyeditor working on the sales sheet for the release they might not know the difference between "5 guys, one of which is the sgt" and "5 guys, one of which can be made a sgt".

You can use the 'typo' excuse for anything. Look, here I go:
What if there was an incompetent (or simply rushed) copy editor and the Wraithknight is really $11.50 and not $115 or it comes in a 3 pack for $115.

Sure, it is possible. Unlikely, however.

I actually want to be in line with the typo speculation.

Wraithknight being the cost of a Baneblade makes sense. GW just hates you.

But halving the Dire Avengers box outright puts a basic troops choice at a really high price per model. It's higher than even the various colors of Space Marines.
Maybe they're shoving in a Dire Avengers support weapon or something else in there. It can't be an outright doubling of the price of the basic troops choice. It makes so little sense that only GW could/would do it.

Maybe this is a sign that Dire Avengers are going to get some incredibly beardy new rules...

What? Just trying to be optimistic!

 DeffDred wrote:
Man, these price rumours are terrifying.

Thank god for China.

explain please, I'm interested

streetsamurai wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
Man, these price rumours are terrifying.

Thank god for China.

explain please, I'm interested

He's talking about buying cheap chinese knockoffs on the internet.

Absolutionis wrote:I actually want to be in line with the typo speculation.

Wraithknight being the cost of a Baneblade makes sense. GW just hates you.

But halving the Dire Avengers box outright puts a basic troops choice at a really high price per model. It's higher than even the various colors of Space Marines.
Maybe they're shoving in a Dire Avengers support weapon or something else in there. It can't be an outright doubling of the price of the basic troops choice. It makes so little sense that only GW could/would do it.

If it's £23 for 5, that makes them more expensive than Wracks (£20.50 for 5), which I already thought was extortinate (and so don't actually own any official Wrack models)

Perhaps GW is going back to the aspects being 5 guys (except Reapers) like they used to be in days of old? Hope not but who knows with thoseguys.

Do we know that the supplement has anything to do with different models/FOC? It could be a campaign setting or a new mission book that focus' on just one craftworld. It very well may have nothing to do with playing any given list in a normal game.

Gwyidion wrote:
This does it for me.

I used to have a "be faithful to the brand" thing, and I saved up and payed the price and shopped in the GW store.

No more. Pure online sellers for a 20-30% discount.

screw you, GW.

You realize this does not hurt GW in the slightest, right? You are still giving them money and they still make plenty of profit. If you really want to take a stand? Stop buying all together. Then get a few thousand to do the same and you might make a tiny dent in the quarterly report.

GW needs to double the prices for standard troops to keep revenue flat? Dire times indeed!

BTW: Fun fact: Wraithfighter is a bomber, not a fighter. But GW only realised that after the 5 creative seconds for naming this unit.

streetsamurai wrote:

 pretre wrote:

He's talking about buying cheap chinese knockoffs on the internet.

link to these site please

Are you asking Dakka members to help you with criminal activity?

Well, they brought Dire Avengers cost in line with the other aspect warriors.

I might be tempted to buy a box or two of Dire Avengers now, but who knows what the rules are going to look like.

I'm just going to paint Guardians blue with white helmets. I'll fight anyone that has a problem with it.

GW is really pushing it.

Charging $50 for a minidex is amazing also. If it has an alternate army list, I'm sure it will reference the main codex. So if you wanted to play a fluffy Iyanden list, it'll be about $100 just for the rules. Crazy.

streetsamurai wrote:

 pretre wrote:

streetsamurai wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
Man, these price rumours are terrifying.

Thank god for China.

explain please, I'm interested

He's talking about buying cheap chinese knockoffs on the internet.

link to these site please

http://bit.ly/11SDHAC

There you go.

 pretre wrote:

You can use the 'typo' excuse for anything. Look, here I go:
What if there was an incompetent (or simply rushed) copy editor and the Wraithknight is really $11.50 and not $115 or it comes in a 3 pack for $115.

Sure, it is possible. Unlikely, however.

WD does however sometimes have wrong prices: for example with Tau release, new Crisis suit box was listed as 60€ ($75) when actual price was 50€ ($65). So there is actually a precedent for outrageous price being a typo (usually it's not, however )

 Red Viper wrote:
Well, they brought Dire Avengers cost in line with the other aspect warriors.

This is good news!
I guess we should feel lucky that they won't cost as much as 5 Crimson Hunters

Kohala wrote:

 The Shadow wrote:

-DE- wrote:The wraitknight will sell for 120 USD. That's an unfortunate fact.

And your evidence for this is....?

Its 115$ numerous sellers already quoting this.

Balls. Sellers like who though?

Chad Warden wrote:Not the first time they did this. Remember basic Orcs (WFB)?
Went from 19 guys to 10 guys for the same price (or 50p cheaper or something)

Yeah, this made me rage. ...Just realised there's no "fistshake" Orkmoticon. There should be.

Gwyidion wrote:This does it for me.

I used to have a "be faithful to the brand" thing, and I saved up and payed the price and shopped in the GW store.

No more. Pure online sellers for a 20-30% discount.

screw you, GW.

Yeah, this sums it up for me. I've recently moved onto eBay and GiftsforGeeks as my main purchases. Considering that I own a unit of every aspect warrior, I'm hoping I'm not going to have to pay much for this Eldar release. After that, all my armies are done, so I can save money until Orks/Nids/DE get redone...

 Kroothawk wrote:
GW needs to double the prices for standard troops to keep revenue flat? Dire times indeed!

BTW: Fun fact: Wraithfighter is a bomber, not a fighter. But GW only realised that after the 5 creative seconds for naming this unit.

streetsamurai wrote:

 pretre wrote:

He's talking about buying cheap chinese knockoffs on the internet.

link to these site please

Are you asking Dakka members to help you with criminal activity?

giving info and visiting a site selling recast is not illegal

streetsamurai wrote:
giving info and visiting a site selling recast is not illegal

It is against Dakka's rules though, if I remember correctly.

Backfire wrote:

 pretre wrote:

You can use the 'typo' excuse for anything. Look, here I go:
What if there was an incompetent (or simply rushed) copy editor and the Wraithknight is really $11.50 and not $115 or it comes in a 3 pack for $115.

Sure, it is possible. Unlikely, however.

WD does however sometimes have wrong prices: for example with Tau release, new Crisis suit box was listed as 60€ ($75) when actual price was 50€ ($65). So there is actually a precedent for outrageous price being a typo (usually it's not, however )

Unfortunately that price for those models is still horrifyingly high

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:
Well, they brought Dire Avengers cost in line with the other aspect warriors.

This is good news!
I guess we should feel lucky that they won't cost as much as 5 Crimson Hunters

I really think it's a typo and it should be $25 US.... and they will still sell the 10 man box.

Then it lines up with Chaos Space Marine and Space Marine tactical boxes.

GW can't be crazy enough for $35 for 5 DA.... they just can't...

Anything against PMing them?

I bought a couple of bits 'nd bobs from Miniturehobby back in the day.

They were great !

I sincerely hope that supplement is the same amount of pages and hardcover like the codex, seeing as they are the same price. I forsee a lot of "iyanden supplement torrent" searches being made.
You do wonder about who buys limited editions at that kind of difference in cost too.

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Wilytank wrote:
GW, no more giant robots please.

I'm sorry, I could have sworn you just said "no more giant robots".

Good thing you didn't because otherwise I would have to kill you.

Are you serious? The GK have one, the Tau just got one, and now the Eldar are getting one too? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here who doesn't want this becoming a continuing trend.

Sooo, still no separate warlocks? Why hasn't anyone complained about this d*ckmove of GW yet?

 pretre wrote:
Oh trust me, I'm not defending the price point. That's crazy. I'm just saying he's a bit early to complain about unit size when we haven't seen the entry yet.

Who cares? It's twice the price for half the models. That's the only important part. Who gives a damn if DA's now come in squads of 5 rather than 10.

 Kroothawk wrote:
BTW: Fun fact: Wraithfighter is a bomber, not a fighter. But GW only realised that after the 5 creative seconds for naming this unit.

BTW: Fun fact: The F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter was a bomber, not a fighter. The USAF didn't bother correcting people, and the plane is now retired.