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2022/04/20 21:20:28
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Norn Queen
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Not that Agents of Shield actually takes place in the MCU at this point.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2022/04/20 21:44:08
Subject: Re:MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I'm assuming Thor goes on a laid-back walkabout with Korg to find himself, and stumbles on a string of deaths by Gorr the God Butcher, which makes things suddenly "get real".
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2022/04/20 23:52:10
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Lieutenant General
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Mr Morden wrote:
Ghaz wrote: Mr Morden wrote:Is that Hercules or someone else with the lightning - as thats his dads thing not his?
We've known for almost a year that Russell Crowe will be playing Zeus in the film.
Have you? - I did not.
Yes. It wasn't a secret because he announced it himself a year ago and is also on the film's IMDb page.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2022/04/21 01:37:14
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Mr Morden wrote:Isn't Sif still alive? She did not die on screen? (unless she did in one of the tv shows?
She is in L&T
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Ex-Mantic Rules Committees: Kings of War, Warpath
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!" |
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2022/04/21 04:15:25
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I didn't even realize they had cast Gorr.
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2022/04/27 10:51:26
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Moonknight definitely has the best acting of all the MCU shows. Oscar really hits it out of the park.
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2022/04/27 15:10:51
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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I am very far behind the curve, but I finally finished Wandavision.
Great premise, and solid execution, but the finale lacks.... something. I am not sure what as I found the wrap up of the Wanda and Vision compelling, the Vision's solo story compelling, but something about the SWORD, Westview and Villain resolves side of things fell flat. Perhaps too much needed to be wrapped up in a single short span of time?
Really loved how they introduced Rambeau into the show, and the post-snap trauma. Look forward to seeing a little bit more of that in other Marvel shows.
That said, I do not think it was as good as Netflix Daredevil. That is still the gold standard in Supers TV. However, I am partial to street level heroes.
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2022/04/27 15:31:50
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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AduroT wrote:Moonknight definitely has the best acting of all the MCU shows. Oscar really hits it out of the park.
Definitely have to strongly agree here.
The show could’ve been a proper mess of Not Quite Smart Enough Script Writing. But I’m really enjoying it.
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2022/04/27 15:54:33
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
London
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I would have enjoyed an episode of the opposite of the first two, but as it is we only really get a quarter of an episode with Marks life being ruined by black outs.
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2022/04/27 16:05:42
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I’m interested to see what folk who are waiting for a Full Series Binge Opportunity make of the whole of the thing.
Whilst I for one think Disney have cracked translating the goodness of the movies to an episodic format, releasing them one by one was and indeed still is something of a risk in the modern day, where other services do a whole series dump on Day One.
I feel FalconSolider might’ve benefitted being a whole series drop, but the episodic format worked well enough for the other four. Wandavision’s homage to different TV eras certainly justified the old school release schedule.
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2022/04/27 16:22:05
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I prefer the episodic release like this over the binge. Makes it much easier to discuss online.
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2022/04/27 16:24:18
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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That is an advantage. But…only if it’s properly tightly plotted.
Moon Knight, like WandaVision is in the habit of each episode leaving us with a question, but also answering a previous question or two.
Now, I’m no writer. But it strikes me as a tricky thing to pull off. Possibly trickier than a mere pleb like me can appreciate.
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2022/04/27 16:42:16
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I do really prefer weekly releases. They just create a community around the show rather than that odd sense of just consuming and then jettisoning it from your mind. It's all very FOMO. If you don't watch the whole thing in the first week then there's nothing to talk about because most of the hype is gone. It's not like binge shows are better plotted either. Strange Things, Netflix Marvel, tons of these notoriously run for 3+ episodes more than they have any reason to.
The downside of weekly releases is just the uncertainty of it being worth it in the end, which is definitely a problem with 20+ hour long episode shows. That's part of the reason I lean towards animation and the tighter 20 minute episodes that only run for 11-24 episodes. Disney+ Marvel definitely benefits from this.
That said, I agree tight plotting really matters. Wanda did it pretty well with the decade structure, but Loki feels like the one that really got it right. Moon Knight is a little meandering, but on the whole I'm enjoying it, even if I don't think its going to wind up all that high on my ranking in the end.
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2022/04/27 16:57:18
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I think we’re also seeing the D+ shows benefit from variable episode length as well.
WandaVision was again a first there. At least, it’s the first streaming series I saw which kind of realise not having to worry or aim for syndication, each episode wasn’t tied to a specific run time.
If the next bit of the tale can be told in say, 20 minutes? They take those 20 minutes. If it needs 40 minutes, they take 40 minutes. It’s a pretty interesting experience, and so far has been used to almost entirely remove the risk of filler.
The downside? I’m a massive fan of Supernatural. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty fun. The premise allows for X-Files style standalone, gribbly of the week, as well as ongoing plot arc advancements. And some of those Gribbly of the Week are, in my opinion, the best the show has ever been. A palette cleanser for all involved, including the audience.
Both formats definitely have their peaks and lows. But Disney+ having flexible episode lengths is something I think is only a strength.
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2022/04/27 17:23:44
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Longtime Dakkanaut
London
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I prefer the control of all at once. But there are advantages to both. Want to keep people engaged between films? Episodes. Want to get peoples flagging attention? Episode dump. Some series combine the two with a dump then weekly.
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2022/04/27 17:57:32
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And some of those Gribbly of the Week are, in my opinion, the best the show has ever been. A palette cleanser for all involved, including the audience.
Dr. Who is a show I adore for strong, standalone episodes that completely loses me when it tries to have any sort of overarching narrative. There's definitely room for both.
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2022/04/27 19:05:48
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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LunarSol wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And some of those Gribbly of the Week are, in my opinion, the best the show has ever been. A palette cleanser for all involved, including the audience.
Dr. Who is a show I adore for strong, standalone episodes that completely loses me when it tries to have any sort of overarching narrative. There's definitely room for both.
I’m a sad old scrote. Whilst I still enjoy New Who, I still prefer the older format. So I guess I’m in at least partial agreement? The old format (if not it’s 30 minute episode time) had room for shorter stories? The new run has never been quite so cohesive on its longer arcs.
This is why McCoy isn’t just My Natural Doctor, as I was of the right age (no. I think you’ll find the correct term is Venerable) but my absolute favourite Doctor.
The Ace Trilogy was ahead of its time. Three multi episode stories which mostly stand on their own two feet, but when watched consecutively show how The Doctor, as an Avuncular Entity, helped Ace transition from kid to adult, and face her unpleasant past.
And none of it Dishy Doctor.
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2022/04/27 20:09:59
Subject: Re:MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Executing Exarch
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I think D+ can currently get away with weekly drops as its got enough new content* to cover the gaps, I think part of Netflix woes are related to only offering very average content between the big hitters, personally I've dropped Netflix and picked up D+ off Tesco vouchers
*watch Only Murders in the Building its top banana
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2022/04/27 20:22:25
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Turnip Jedi wrote:I think D+ can currently get away with weekly drops as its got enough new content to cover the gaps, I think part of Netflix woes are related to only offering very average content between the big hitters, personally I've dropped Netflix and picked up D+ off Tesco vouchers
This I suspect will only be Geographically Accurate.
Here in the U.K., D+ comes with Star. Star is, to the best of knowledge, Hulu But Only The Good Bits. And we’re lucky enough not to have to pay extra for it.
Yes, D+ has upped its monthly cost. I pay annually, so outside of remembering exactly when I need to cough up, it’s not something I really think about. It’s just there.
Compare to Netflix, which I dropped a while back? £7-£16 a month…..and it’s Noise to Signal ratio, for me, is exceptionally poor. Now don’t get me wrong. I do enjoy a good documentary. Except…..a good documentary needs to be more than well shot, framed, directed, scripted and presented. It also needs to be (for me) Factually Accurate.
Being a Brit, I’ve been thoroughly and utterly spoiled by David Attenborough and indeed Horrible Histories. And so I have come to expect a certain level of honesty and when it comes to documentaries.
Sadly, Netflix is mostly the kinda crap Morgan Spurlock vomitted forth. Intellectually dishonest tripe, marrying a false premise to lazy research and heavily outdated references.
Netflix has other shows, sure. But nothing that can possibly justify their asking price to other services. Not even remotely.
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2022/04/27 23:50:07
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Norn Queen
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Easy E wrote:I am very far behind the curve, but I finally finished Wandavision.
Great premise, and solid execution, but the finale lacks.... something. I am not sure what as I found the wrap up of the Wanda and Vision compelling, the Vision's solo story compelling, but something about the SWORD, Westview and Villain resolves side of things fell flat. Perhaps too much needed to be wrapped up in a single short span of time?
Really loved how they introduced Rambeau into the show, and the post-snap trauma. Look forward to seeing a little bit more of that in other Marvel shows.
That said, I do not think it was as good as Netflix Daredevil. That is still the gold standard in Supers TV. However, I am partial to street level heroes.
WandaVisions ending suffers from being shot at the beginning of the pandemic. We know from stuff they have talked about that there was a lot they were planning to do that they couldn't because of a lot of unknowns and restrictions at the time. Things had to be cut. Things had to be slotted in. The whole Wanda/Agatha fight is mostly shots of just one of them on screen at a time for exactly that reason.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2022/04/29 12:54:18
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Longtime Dakkanaut
London
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Unsurprised Monknight is a one shot considering it is by far my favourite of the Disney TV shows, if only because it has a neat way of cutting the tiresome fights out.
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2022/04/29 13:49:11
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Executing Exarch
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I’m interested to see what folk who are waiting for a Full Series Binge Opportunity make of the whole of the thing..
I'll let you know, I'm quite proud of my willpower in doing so (binging the chuff out of my Netflix watchlist before sub ends is helping)
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2022/04/29 14:35:26
Subject: MCU tv shows, spoilers within.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lance845 wrote:
WandaVisions ending suffers from being shot at the beginning of the pandemic. We know from stuff they have talked about that there was a lot they were planning to do that they couldn't because of a lot of unknowns and restrictions at the time. Things had to be cut. Things had to be slotted in. The whole Wanda/Agatha fight is mostly shots of just one of them on screen at a time for exactly that reason.
My favorite pandemic artifact of the finale is the like 3-4 extras on the streets spaced very unnaturally far apart during the finale. Also the sheer number of shots with only one character in frame.
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2022/04/30 03:33:04
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Fixture of Dakka
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Having caught up on Moon Knight…. That was just…. Impressive
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2022/05/04 01:47:51
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I keep forgetting to watch Moon Knight, but it sounds like it is worth watching at least.
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2022/05/04 08:00:28
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I’d call that a quite satisfying finale, and yes, it’s got a post credit sequence.
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2022/05/04 10:44:19
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Norn Queen
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Very enjoyable. Super happy with the Moon Knight series. Better then anyone could have hoped for.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2022/05/04 13:24:57
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Courageous Questing Knight
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The end of the Moon Knight season already? Actually, I got my days mixed up and tuned in last night to catch the next episode and did the face palm (it's only Tuesday, gads...) so I switched to get caught up on Outer Range (OK, not MCU, but stellar!)
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2022/05/04 17:32:37
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ugh. I was checking out non-spoiler reviews of Doctor Strange last night to try and figure out if my kids could handle it since I've heard it pushes the violence more than other MCU movies.
So today YouTube keeps recommending bootleg spoiler videos.
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2022/05/04 18:10:08
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Terrifying Doombull
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The BBC review seemed to suggest that it leaned toward Raimi's horror elements
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20220503-doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-review
The whole article doesn't seem that spoilerish, but there are some references to the ending, so...
He was also the director of The Evil Dead trilogy and Drag Me to Hell, of course, and he doesn't hold back on cartoonish horror-comedy scares.
Besides, its appeal isn't wholly reliant on the director's infectious enthusiasm for genre thrills
Depends on the level of your kids? Can't speak to that. 'Outlandish but fun' seems to be the summary (and a bit of a departure from the Marvel formula), with some character contemplation thrown in during the quiet bits.
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