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I know I'm going to get bashed but I'm not impressed!

For $100 I would expect plastic walls and tiles...
the Figures though cool looking... are on non standard bases and are Blood angels instead of Non discript Marines. I thought the original ones were Ultras and DeathCo.

Bash away... too much coin for what it is, and I'm a guy that bough a Reaver and a T-hawk....

If it was $50 I'd think about it.

Think I could get this through my LGS? I would rather send the money their way.

Listen whippersnapper, when I played this game back in the early 90's they had cardboard tiles. And its now 20 years later and they havent come up with something a touch better, especially with their CAD and injection moulding from china?

Whippersnapper? WHIPPERSNAPPEEER!!

Well when we played Rogue Trader in t' 80's we could afford "tiles" we had to play in mud! An' not that nice smooth mud you had in t' 90's but smelly mud with gravel 'n glass in it! I'll not talk about the shoe boxes we has to sleep in, but there were shoe boxes!!

kaiohx wrote:It was supposed to be announced at Germany and they got nothing (like Chicago), but instead opt to send out a rinky-dink newsletter (which hasnt come out yet I might add). You'd think the con would have been the place to expose it for the hype value.

I've tried to figure out GW's thinking regarding their events, and all I can come up with is that they really view them as a store and nothing else. I mean, I understand that they're trying to drive more fans to their Web site instead of rumors sites, etc. But what a late 20th-century company (yes, you read that right) would do is announce it at an event to whip up the fans, while simultaneously releasing that info to their Web site. But GW clearly no longer views their events as being worth much in marketing terms

reds8n wrote:http://www.blacklibrary.com/product.asp?prod=60100181107&type=Book

GW in synergy shocker.

Wow, welcome to the 20th century, GW! LOL.

Okay, rants aside, the miniatures look nice and I really like the BL redesign. It's a big stealer and not some kind of cheesy, weird mutant man-thing. I'm getting psyched for the new Tyranid codex now.

Im just happy the blood angels are featured for once.. Guess its all fair, UM get the cover of the SM book, SW get their next codex and blood angels get space hulk

If I weren't moving house right now with more important things to buy (like somewhere to sit and a TV...) I'd get one.

As it stands my only hope is that this a taste of things to come when BA get their own 'dex. Those minis are gorgeous (although I don't like all the dead marines under the 'stealers - that always looks dumb if you you use the models to play against anything else).

H.B.M.C. wrote:Leave Quest alone. Got a few friends that I'm playing Quest with through at the moment and we're having a great time. I don't want new rules.

I just want a re-release So I can buy it for non-enormous ebay money

wyomingfox wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cardboard is more eco friendly.

Not when it ends up in the same landfill

In Europe and Japan we recycle cardboard and plastic.

Jive Professor

I still think it would be more economically viable to have it stay a part of GW's catalogue for longer than this "limited release" crap

Its limited release because it will be limited to the first and only run of production, who knows what number this will be? Someone that had been to the German GD mentioned that there would be 5,000 copies in released in Germany. Taking this to be the case then you have to assume (I know!) that there would be propotionally more manufactured for the UK, US, Aust/NZ markets. Therefore I don't think the "Limited Release" will be that limited, possibly say 50,000 units. However repoduction costs will be prohibitively expensive for smaller "restocking" production runs so GW limits its exposure to the initial (assumed) large production run.

Either way I'm snapping mine up now!!

Sept. 5th release?

Oh man, perfect timing for my birthday.

It'd be great to receive that as a birthday gift,

For anybody complaining about the cost/cardboard, here's a few things to chew on:

1. Were you to buy current GW models for this, (10 Termies and 20 Genestealers), you're looking at $80-100 bucks easy, unless you got lucky with AoBR and BFM models. On top of this, these are all new (and good quality) plastic sculpts. The cost for plastic molds is huge compared to metal. GW making this limited edition means they have a higher cost to recoup. (Personally, I'd wager we will see these minis again, considering the upfront costs involved, but what do I know?)

2. Believe it or not, the cost for GOOD cardboard printing is not cheap. Don't believe me? Check out any "nerd" boardgame out there right now. They regularly run $50-$80, and they consist of far less cardboard, far less substantial cardboard, that doesn't have such nice print quality, that doesn't have the kind of intricate "jigsaw" cut, and don't have the scuff-resistant gloss coating that this appears to have.

For reference, check out this (and others if you want) pic of Battlestar Galactica. This is a $50 game, and the cardboard board is way less beefy, and the minatures you get are atrocious (soft plastic "army men" level sculpts). http://boardgamegeek.com/image/361693

You may not like it, but it's obviously done with an eye to quality and the price reflects it.

Have you thought about making panels and such out of the cities of death sprues and the new planetsrike fortifications for the space ship corridors? The new 40k tower (the one with the gun emplacements) has a door bit which is perfect for a space hulk door for example.

I realize that cardboard corridors are kind of a let down, but look at the quality of the terminators and genestealers compared to the poseless little torsos with the stick on arms from the original/2nd edition warhammer.

And hey, they may have some blood angels icons here and there, and they may even be red plastic: but isnt that part of the challenge? picking up that knife/dremel/tube of greenstuff and then priming and painting the fething thing the way you want it?

Just because it's an ultramarine, or in this case a blood angel on the box, doesn't mean it has to be played and modelled/painted that way.

Thick cardboard is really just as good as plastic.. Like crackbone said, look at fantasy flight games

Their cardboard is very durable.. Dont spill your mountain dew?

I was on the fence until I saw that new Terminator Librarian.

Then I ordered one double quick.

I'm glad it is here, and slightly disappointed that the Mystery Box wasn't a Mystery after all - I was hoping we were getting Space Hulk (which we knew all along) and something else was in the Mystery Box.

Still, I'm happy it is back - but it is a bit odd that it is limited.

I'm hoping for some WD support in the future too, but that might be asking for too much if it really is limited...

carmachu wrote:

Miss Dee wrote:I remember when they did rules for Marines in Power Armour for SH.

Yup, that was fun. And tratior marines, and eventually there was somewhere variant rules for eldar warriors(the non-guardian ones) IG and orks....

The poor poor IG. Keep sending in waves of fodder. I guess the Stormtroopers were too smart, and the Ogryns too big.

Kilkrazy wrote:

wyomingfox wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cardboard is more eco friendly.

Not when it ends up in the same landfill

In Europe and Japan we recycle cardboard and plastic.

So they say but at least in Tokyo most of it end at the landfill KK pretty lets recycle ads aside.

M.

Looks as though it would be worth playing and those models are awesome.

Miguelsan wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

wyomingfox wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cardboard is more eco friendly.

Not when it ends up in the same landfill

In Europe and Japan we recycle cardboard and plastic.

So they say but at least in Tokyo most of it end at the landfill KK pretty lets recycle ads aside.

M.

Compared to plastic, cardboard is way better in this regard. It will bio-degrade.

Ok Space Hulk its better than I expected I was expecting same p*** poor minis moulded Termies and Genestealers.....

I didnt expect this and to be honest GW has outdone itself.The only downside is the price bit pricey and why limited edtion ??.

I will be getting it for the Minis as I am not a big player the Terminators will go in my Crimson Ravens army the dude in the throne (Is he dead?) will go as a sacred relic in a Land Raider.

The Genestealers well they could go in a Genestealer Cult army or a Cities of death Tyranid army

Well I preordered this earlier before I came into work, just after seeing this thread and nabbing the link.

Looks really nice and as a side effect my wife has decided to go Blood Angel instead of Iron Hands with her Marines.

Can't wait to have it my cold sweaty hands.

BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:I will be getting it for the Minis as I am not a big ...

I'm sure someone will offer you for the tiles, rule book and everything else. If its limited enough and people are desperate enough, you might get the vast majority of it payed off by selling just those a parts.

n0t_u wrote:

Now the lazy can use the emperor in apoc

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i really love the drunk marine sleeping on the chair while his bretheren are fitghing to defend what he had left for them in this huge golden cup.
maybe there was some sort of heavy cocktail in it, like long island icetea ?! ... well we'll never know. but i think those termis were celebrating some sort of majorca sangria-party in this room. -.... standing in a circle around this huge cup on the floor and drinking cheap sweet whine with straws.
and than suddenly the nids entered the party. all of the marines but one, deticated to protect the cup started to seek and destroy the nids. and the one left over continued drinking. than, when they were pushed back into their party room by the nids attacks, they found their drunk brother sleeping in the chair ...
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Pretty sure that "drunk" terminator's head is a skull.

Here is a very poorly MS Paint attempt at what the sergeant can look like with about 5 minutes worth of cutting/greenstuffing/filing.



It would actually make a sweet basis for a lysander or calgar conversion I think.

Plastic tiles would have needed to be painted, and most players would never get them to look as nice as these printed tiles do. For the board gamers who will play this out of the box, the attractive cardboard tiles are a lot better than plastic. For those of us too busy to paint all our minis as it is, nicely printed terrain is also a blessing.

Just my two cents...

Jake

As much as I would like to say GW wouldn't be so stupid as to invest that much money into creating a plastic sprue for a limited edition game, I remember Battle of Five Armies and shudder...

I'm also wary this is GW testing a game at a $99 price point, to see if we'll buy. It would explain all the hype.

Minataures are beautiful though, let's hope the rules are up to snuff.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

As soon as I get mine Im writing rules for Power Armoured Marines

aka_mythos wrote:

Miguelsan wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

wyomingfox wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cardboard is more eco friendly.

Not when it ends up in the same landfill

In Europe and Japan we recycle cardboard and plastic.

So they say but at least in Tokyo most of it end at the landfill KK pretty lets recycle ads aside.

M.

Compared to plastic, cardboard is way better in this regard. It will bio-degrade.

Not in a landfill

the_trooper wrote:Think I could get this through my LGS? I would rather send the money their way.

Normally, I'd say support the LGS, but in this case as with other limited releases, you'll really be taking your chances.

Another article on the GW website, Space Hulk Is Back, is at this link.

Anyone procrastinating on getting this item who really wants it take note of this text from the aforementioned article:

"This is a one-off, limited edition product, with a single print run. If you have any interest in owning your own Space Hulk, I strongly suggest you advance order a copy today. Do not wait, because when they're gone, they're gone (although one of the Studio team did hint at a doing 50th anniversary edition in 2039). And DO NOT put this on your wish list, forget about it and expect to get one..."

ENOUGH talk about landfills, recycling and anything else not really about this version of Space Hulk.

Let's stay on topic, OK?

I'm so glad to finally get a rerelease of this classic game, and I'll be placing my order soon.

I think the cardboard tiles are fine, though I have to admit that I am a bit disappointed.

However, I'm actually more confused than disappointed.

1) Why release this as a limited edition?

2) Considering that GW already had plastic Terminators and Genestealers ready to go from the two previous box sets, why did they go through the trouble to redo these plastics? I'm betting that the price could have been much cheaper if they had gone that route ($50-60 instead of $100). Will it have something to do with the limited edition aspect of this set and the normal set will have the generic Terminators and Genestealers? And if so, that seems like a bigger waste as many buyers would probably prefer to have the generic versions.

In any case, I'm already in. And I hope the sales will be large enough to encourage GW to rerelease their other out of production games.