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Thats a proper fight. Check out the rolled up newspaper in his arse pocket.

That is frighteningly accurate.

Ask a wiener dog. The way of the Rolled Up Newspaper can be a devestating martial art...

Im glad this thread went from Internet Tough Guy to Humourous...it was painful for a few pages.

How you can kill someone with one strike?

Some people watch too much anime...

Jaric wrote:Im glad this thread went from Internet Tough Guy to Humourous...it was painful for a few pages.

How you can kill someone with one strike?

Some people watch too much anime...

Easy. If you know the pressure points and where to strike you can kill a person with one hit.

Punch them in the windpipe. Crushed windpipe, death results in a few minutes. Temple strike can cause a brain hemorrhage. There aren't many people out their that can just strike a pressure point and kill someone but almost anyone can punch someone in the throat and that will cause death if you hit them hard enough.

Jaric wrote:Im glad this thread went from Internet Tough Guy to Humourous...it was painful for a few pages.

How you can kill someone with one strike?

Some people watch too much anime...

Well you can palm upwards to the nose and push the nasal bone into someone's frontal lobe. You can also easily kill in one hit with strikes to the temples, strikes to the neck, and any sort of attack with an improvised weapon.

Jaric wrote:Im glad this thread went from Internet Tough Guy to Humourous...it was painful for a few pages.

How you can kill someone with one strike?

Well if that strike involves a stick with nails in it.

I am a great grand master of Pan-Fo-du!

Do not cross me or my deadly moves will be reviled!

mattyrm wrote:


Thats a proper fight. Check out the rolled up newspaper in his arse pocket.

Awesome.

"Easy. If you know the pressure points and where to strike you can kill a person with one hit.

Punch them in the windpipe. Crushed windpipe, death results in a few minutes. Temple strike can cause a brain hemorrhage. There aren't many people out their that can just strike a pressure point and kill someone but almost anyone can punch someone in the throat and that will cause death if you hit them hard enough. "

"Well you can palm upwards to the nose and push the nasal bone into someone's frontal lobe. You can also easily kill in one hit with strikes to the temples, strikes to the neck, and any sort of attack with an improvised weapon. "

Seriously? Well in theory those may work, but lets stop deluding ourselves. When is the last time anyone has heard of someone dying by one of these attacks? Enough street fights or bar brawls happen in a year in the world that we would hear of it at least once if it was commonplace right?

And from someone who studied pressure points and application for over three years, its all bs. You cannot use pressurepoints in a fight. It just doesnt work. The accuracy required is impossible in a live fight. And the ability to kill someone with one strike is pure Horsecrap that has ben shovelled into your mind by hollywood mcdojos.

Jaric wrote:into your mind by hollywood mcdojos.

Now now, lets be fair, if anything Chinese McDojos are at least as equally culpable.


This whole thread reminded me of a Bruce Lee quote about the difference between stage fighting and real fighting. He said in real life he would no sooner kick someone in the head than he would punch them in the foot, your balance is screwed, but it looks good on camera.

Seriously? Well in theory those may work, but lets stop deluding ourselves. When is the last time anyone has heard of someone dying by one of these attacks? Enough street fights or bar brawls happen in a year in the world that we would hear of it at least once if it was commonplace right?

Well nicholas cage went to jail for that in con air, but...

There is a small bone above the ridge of your nose that the cartilage attaches to, but the skull behind it is too thick to for that bone to penetrate, it'd pierce your hand first. But as the above poster noted, the bouncing of the brain, known as coup-contracoup injury, can cause the blood vessels in the covering of the brain to shear and bleed causing increased intracranial pressure, herniation of the brainstem and death. However none of this occurs instantly, if some one was killed by the classic palm strike to the nose I'd look to see if the spinal cord was damaged by the neck snapping back, an injury to your 2nd cervical vertebrae is known as a hangman's fracture and causes the nerve that activates your diaphragm to be paralyzed. Just like when the hangman's nose snaps your neck.

According to some dude on a fight forum though its an urban myth as you say. Damnit nicholas cage, you were innocent all along. As for temple strikes, those are actually fairly common and people do die from them. It's especially dangerous in boxing where the distributed force of the boxing gloved and the more common hook punch greatly increases the change of lethally striking the temple. As for improvised weapons, if you haven't heard of people being killed by broken bottles or improvised clubs then you're not really paying very close attention.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I am a great grand master of Pan-Fo-du!

Do not cross me or my deadly moves will be reviled!

Bravo sir! +1 internets for somehow bringing the Pan-fo into this.

...im not talking about improvised weapons. Only myths about magical death touches.

I doubt the lethality of the temple strike Shuma. No one has died from one in MMA yet, and you would think if it was as common as you say we would see it.

Ahtman I meant all mcdojo's - both asian and us. Actually asian are more culpable. They started it with their leet shaolin kung fu is deadly! crap.

Jaric wrote:...im not talking about improvised weapons. Only myths about magical death touches.

I doubt the lethality of the temple strike Shuma. No one has died from one in MMA yet, and you would think if it was as common as you say we would see it.

Ahtman I meant all mcdojo's - both asian and us. Actually asian are more culpable. They started it with their leet shaolin kung fu is deadly! crap.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/First_female_boxing_death_occurs_in_US_sanctioned_match

Temple strikes are fairly dangerous in much the same way accidentally striking someone in the neck or blunt trauma to the pate is dangerous. The anatomy of the body, and especially the head and neck, is not designed to stand up to being struck. Its rather easy to cause internal hemorrhaging to the brain with strong strikes or high pressure to the temple. The skull is weakest there and there are several important nerves there and a good bit of vasculature.

http://www.mdconsult.com/das/book/body/195137011-2/0/1608/1505.html

Well only 1 death via blunt force trama in mma and boxing in what decades doesnt really support your argument.

How many people die each year in amateur football in the USA?

Like I said, totally useless in a fight.

Jaric wrote:Well only 1 death via blunt force trama in mma and boxing in what decades doesnt really support your argument.

How many people die each year in amateur football in the USA?

Like I said, totally useless in a fight.

I never said it was useful. Only possible. The middle temporal artery isn't particularly shielded and it runs right across the temple region. Also the second link states that its a fairly common injury in boxing and wrestling. We have now determined that the temple strike is possible, and if you wish to do some research beyond the links i've already provided you would find that it's actually a bit of an issue in professional unpadded boxing. It's not talked about much, but then fatalities in modern civilized fight sports are never talked about much. They're a black mark on the profession every time they happen.

Now please, if you want to continue to try and put words in my mouth to make yourself sound intelligent or experienced start consulting medical records and sport histories too.

It is extremely rare for someone to die in a ring. usually there is a preexisting condition, and/or they were so outclassed that they were just pummelled to death.

Deaths in football are nearly as rare. Paralysis however is not rare. Talk to an actual master level practitioner. They will laugh when any of this stuff is mentioned. They can defend themselves, and beat the crap out of you, but the only way the whispering pinkie of death kills you by tickling your nose is if its followed by a killer attack wiener dog taking out your throat.

Now you can be stomped to death. Its just mythical uber kill one strike nonsense is just nonsense.
You want to waste someone with one strike, you have to hit them with a 00 shotgun round center chest or face. All else is just humor.

Frazzled wrote:It is extremely rare for someone to die in a ring. usually there is a preexisting condition, and/or they were so outclassed that they were just pummelled to death.

Deaths in football are nearly as rare. Paralysis however is not rare. Talk to an actual master level practitioner. They will laugh when any of this stuff is mentioned. They can defend themselves, and beat the crap out of you, but the only way the whispering pinkie of death kills you by tickling your nose is if its followed by a killer attack wiener dog taking out your throat.

Now you can be stomped to death. Its just mythical uber kill one strike nonsense is just nonsense.
You want to waste someone with one strike, you have to hit them with a 00 shotgun round center chest or face. All else is just humor.

You could probably pull it off pretty easily with a bat or crowbar too. No need to bring science into this.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Frazzled wrote:It is extremely rare for someone to die in a ring. usually there is a preexisting condition, and/or they were so outclassed that they were just pummelled to death.

Deaths in football are nearly as rare. Paralysis however is not rare. Talk to an actual master level practitioner. They will laugh when any of this stuff is mentioned. They can defend themselves, and beat the crap out of you, but the only way the whispering pinkie of death kills you by tickling your nose is if its followed by a killer attack wiener dog taking out your throat.

Now you can be stomped to death. Its just mythical uber kill one strike nonsense is just nonsense.
You want to waste someone with one strike, you have to hit them with a 00 shotgun round center chest or face. All else is just humor.

You could probably pull it off pretty easily with a bat or crowbar too. No need to bring science into this.

Its a lot more difficult actually. Put them in the hospital yes. injury them critically yes. Potentially kill them yes, but rare with one swing.
unlike a a 12 gauge.

Rule of thumb is 2-5 main body hits with a large caliber pistol. Dork boy with a bat aint gonna compare.

Frazzled wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Frazzled wrote:It is extremely rare for someone to die in a ring. usually there is a preexisting condition, and/or they were so outclassed that they were just pummelled to death.

Deaths in football are nearly as rare. Paralysis however is not rare. Talk to an actual master level practitioner. They will laugh when any of this stuff is mentioned. They can defend themselves, and beat the crap out of you, but the only way the whispering pinkie of death kills you by tickling your nose is if its followed by a killer attack wiener dog taking out your throat.

Now you can be stomped to death. Its just mythical uber kill one strike nonsense is just nonsense.
You want to waste someone with one strike, you have to hit them with a 00 shotgun round center chest or face. All else is just humor.

You could probably pull it off pretty easily with a bat or crowbar too. No need to bring science into this.

Its a lot more difficult actually. Put them in the hospital yes. injury them critically yes. Potentially kill them yes, but rare with one swing.
unlike a a 12 gauge.

Rule of thumb is 2-5 main body hits with a large caliber pistol. Dork boy with a bat aint gonna compare.

If I get a swing for every shot you fire then I think I could compare quite well. Then again if I'm hitting someone thats unmoving I could probably pull it off in one every time, much the same as with a gun. I don't think it would be a particular feat to kill someone with a swing to the back of the cranium or neck. That said, if they're trying to hit back the guns definitly going to have the edge there. It's a lethal weapon after all.

Agreed, you're definitely going to do damage there Shuma. Of course we're both kind of saying we need weapons of some sort.

Frazzled wrote:Agreed, you're definitely going to do damage there Shuma. Of course we're both kind of saying we need weapons of some sort.

Well yeah, I've been arguing against pressure points and super headkicks from the start.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Agreed, you're definitely going to do damage there Shuma. Of course we're both kind of saying we need weapons of some sort.

Well yeah, I've been arguing against pressure points and super headkicks from the start.

Yea but have you been arguing arguign against killer attack wiener dogs? No discussion of deadly martial arts is complete without of full understanding of the Way of the Weiner.

Talk about a coiled spring of death and destruction:

I only fear one kind of harmless cute dog. And it's not of the wiener variety.

ShumaGorath wrote:
I only fear one kind of harmless cute dog. And it's not of the wiener variety.

Oh that is a cutey. Which means it is wickedly evil and deadly like a ticked off a brown recluse. Good call Shuma!

Frazzled wrote:

A previously unseen weenie dog pic!

We are Wienies! We are legion!