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It is all looking jolly D mate!

Those of a certain age will remember the ads:
Blackanddakkablackanddakka...and so on and so forth

The guard is fine for me. Not boxy enough for orky, and in any case when it is on and that way round it doesn't make me think of greenskins.

You've outdone yourself yet again! I love the buzzsaw. I do prefer it without the guard. It doesn't look overly Orky, but I think it looks better without.

Now, I must nitpick a little - the model looks a little front heavy with such a huge weapon. Maybe just pose him where he's a little more centered on the base and that will help. Again, it's minor nitpicking, but something I noticed immediately in the first pic. I think that's also part of the reason I prefer it without the guard, just because it's adding additional bulk to the front of the model.

Still extremely cool and I love the end result. Little details like the lamp just put it over the top for me. Excellent work!

Just to go back to the guard.
I would remove the teeth tbh. The problem is not so much that it looks orkish, but that the serrated aesthetic is not working with the blocky bulkiness of the Ogryn now I look again.

The studded glove he has would be a better style for the guard. Hope that makes sense.

make a spare buzzsaw blade and put it somewhere on the ogryn, such as hanging in place of the cogwheel, it would look cool imho
aside from that, ITS AWESOME

Hmmm if he put a spare blade on there wouldn't he also need a sprocket or wrench? Maybe some oil or a fuel can , i dont think a crazed ogryn is gonna be capable of changing the blade on that beast. I dont mind the guard as imo it is hard to avoid anything improvised looking orkish so you might as well embrace it.

... I bow to your insane creativity.

I'm impressed that the 50-pc ensemble chainsaw is about 1 step away from being fully functional and the blade being able to spin... simply amazing!

Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P

Really, incredible. I'm not quite sold on the blade guard. I think it looks cool, but it looks a little big, with the toothy bits at the top of the saw blade as well.

The ork boxes have so many good detail bits, I've been tempted to get another box of Lootaz/Burnas just to pilfer the Deff-gunz for bitz.

Thanks for raising the bar.

Wow!

The blade is perfect, and thanks for showing how it was done

Fantastic idea and conversion.

Only nitpick I have, is with the handle. Just below left hand, where your plastic tube enters. Can you GS it so the original part looks straighter?

Well , the timing is perfect becauser i can actually here a huge buzzsaw from my writing position , the whining cough, spluttering is quite dreadfull , ( watre works ) but to have this image to go with it, is disturbing , to say the least, the chain pull is such a nice touch and the , custom blade i would have sworn was shop bought. its big and nasty like it should be , perfect for that beast of a ogryn , kudos , on all the hard work fella.

Absolutely amazing! Really! I actually had to look at it several times to find any citisizm at all, and it's just asthetics...and only because you asked us to be nit-picky!
The guard looks great, and not overly Orky, but it looks like it's kind of in the way, you'd be able to do much more damage with it removed...however, it looks nastier with it on, so I'm torn...

But great job! I would say that I want to steal the idea, but I would never get it to look anything like what you have come up with! Bravo!

Man, that's just brutal! Love it!

Impressive, always loved me a good bit of circular saw action.

Excellent work as always.

The chain was an inspired idea, loving that.

Personally I'd lose the guard, or at least lose the teeth from it, not neccesarily too orky, just doesn't gel with the aesthetics of the rest.

Overall impression - towards the high end of outstanding

The saw is a gothic touch sir! Well done!

First things first, before I start replying to your posts individually I'd like thank you all for your numerous flattering comments, it's very motivating to see, that you people like what I do. This project was especially much fun for me so far and it seems to do the same for you.

Perkustin wrote:Why take a normal buzzsaw when you can make one out of a motor cycle. Great ogre very mencaing and brutal...

Just what I was thinking, why take a normal one, plus I couldn't think of a proper one.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:It is all looking jolly D mate!
Those of a certain age will remember the ads:
Blackanddakkablackanddakka...and so on and so forth

I liked the ad and I have some black&deckers, I could add the logo to the saw when painting it.

Cadaver wrote:You've outdone yourself yet again! I love the buzzsaw. I do prefer it without the guard. It doesn't look overly Orky, but I think it looks better without.
Now, I must nitpick a little - the model looks a little front heavy with such a huge weapon. Maybe just pose him where he's a little more centered on the base and that will help. Again, it's minor nitpicking, but something I noticed immediately in the first pic. I think that's also part of the reason I prefer it without the guard, just because it's adding additional bulk to the front of the model.
Still extremely cool and I love the end result. Little details like the lamp just put it over the top for me. Excellent work!

Thanks for the overly kind words. I hear your words about the front heaviness, in fact the model is not properly fixed to the base yet, which was actually just a quick idea to make the ogryn look less hunched and more like on the top of a hill. I will see to it, once I build his base and decide on a final position for him. Please be sure to keep an eye on whether I solve the problem in the final version or not.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Just to go back to the guard.
I would remove the teeth tbh. The problem is not so much that it looks orkish, but that the serrated aesthetic is not working with the blocky bulkiness of the Ogryn now I look again.
The studded glove he has would be a better style for the guard. Hope that makes sense.

I think I know what you mean. I haven't made up my mind yet, but I thought from the beginning, that the teeth on the saw itself have to go.

haranos wrote:make a spare buzzsaw blade and put it somewhere on the ogryn, such as hanging in place of the cogwheel, it would look cool imho
aside from that, ITS AWESOME

Perkustin wrote:Hmmm if he put a spare blade on there wouldn't he also need a sprocket or wrench? Maybe some oil or a fuel can , i dont think a crazed ogryn is gonna be capable of changing the blade on that beast. I dont mind the guard as imo it is hard to avoid anything improvised looking orkish so you might as well embrace it.

Good thinking, I actually planned to do that right from the start. At first I thought I could say the cog wheel was a spare blade, but of course it's way to small now. I actually imagined the saw to be able to unlock the blade upon a button press and release it to be bouncing through anything roughly in front of it, so I planned to give it a release handle and some spare blades. Giving him a wrench seamed cool to me to and I'm still considering it. As far as I can see there won't be enough room for spare blades in the end. Not sure yet.

HF Izanagi wrote:... I bow to your insane creativity. I'm impressed that the 50-pc ensemble chainsaw is about 1 step away from being fully functional and the blade being able to spin... simply amazing!

Thank you, very flattering, I like that. Btw the only thing that made me glue the blade in place was the fact, that there are one or two teeth on it, that didn't turn out very good, so I positioned them on the inside. The blade was able to spin at first, but it felt to much like a toy and I don't like that, it's a model, so I had to restrain from the fun of spinning the blade and making "wrinnn wrinnn wrinnn" sounds.

The Good Green wrote:Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Really, incredible. I'm not quite sold on the blade guard. I think it looks cool, but it looks a little big, with the toothy bits at the top of the saw blade as well. Thanks for raising the bar.

I'm wearing a straight jacket, that's why I have to do everthing with my mouth and feet, my minis would turn out waaay better if I was able to use my hands...
Again I'll address the teeth and blade guard soon, but I know exactly what you mean, thx.

tipios wrote:Wow! The blade is perfect, and thanks for showing how it was done Fantastic idea and conversion. Only nitpick I have, is with the handle. Just below left hand, where your plastic tube enters. Can you GS it so the original part looks straighter?

I didn't exactly show it, that was step one of many many more. If you're interested I'm willing to share the whole process. You're nitpicking is welcome, I'm not 100% sure what you mean though. On the very last picture I agree the handle looks strange, I think it slipped out of position there, it's not supposed to bend sideways and it normally doesn't, if that's what you meant. If you mean the fact that the white tube is not in line with the reception of it and there is a slight bend towards the saw, I don't mind that, It looks ok to me.

neil101 wrote:Well , the timing is perfect becauser i can actually here a huge buzzsaw from my writing position , the whining cough, spluttering is quite dreadfull , ( watre works ) but to have this image to go with it, is disturbing , to say the least, the chain pull is such a nice touch and the , custom blade i would have sworn was shop bought. its big and nasty like it should be , perfect for that beast of a ogryn , kudos , on all the hard work fella.

Hehe, I was very happy when I saw some construction workers with a big buzzsaw cutting open a street some weeks ago, when I was in the middle of building the saw. Nothing beats a real reference. About the blade I could have made ten more, because it didn't seem that good to me, glad nobody recognized.

RSJake wrote:Absolutely amazing! Really! I actually had to look at it several times to find any citisizm at all, and it's just asthetics...and only because you asked us to be nit-picky!
The guard looks great, and not overly Orky, but it looks like it's kind of in the way, you'd be able to do much more damage with it removed...however, it looks nastier with it on, so I'm torn...
But great job! I would say that I want to steal the idea, but I would never get it to look anything like what you have come up with! Bravo!

Don't hesitate to try, I'll happily assist you with my experience.

monkeytroll wrote:Excellent work as always. The chain was an inspired idea, loving that. Personally I'd lose the guard, or at least lose the teeth from it, not neccesarily too orky, just doesn't gel with the aesthetics of the rest.
Overall impression - towards the high end of outstanding

Very flattering! The chain is one of my favorite parts too, it was a blast when I had the idea.

No time to update on my works now, gotta go eat with my students. I'll inform you about my progress later this evening.

Well, later is now. Recent Progress: I've been a bad boy! Instead of finishing my ogryn (I worked on him but he's not done yet), I worked on something all new and not affiliated with any of my current projects.

I accidently bought a miniature from Ebay and when it arrived yesterday I couldn't resist to start converting it. I actually had no idea what to do with it, because I had not expected to win the auction with a bid of 1€. So there it was and I thought about possible conversions, I considered something ratskinish, but it didn't exactly fit.

My next thought was Genestealer Magus and that's what it's going to be. I already swapped the head, removed any details that did not work with a magus and added additional arms.

I know, I know, Magi are 4th Generation and will normally not have additional limbs. Keyword is normally Genestealers are highly mutating and nobody can tell me it can't happen. Plus the fluff has changed in so many significant ways over the many years, nobody knows what might happen next time.

Anyway I'll try to steer away from the magus again soon, so I can continue with my other projects, but I can't guarantee. It's such a tempting quick conversion, as far as anything I start can be considered quick.

Wow i think i should congratulate you on your wonderfully written replies to so many comments as much as i should on your sidetracked Magus! Can only immagine the detailed lengths you will go to on such a project. Btw can i ask what you teach? if its not too personel a question for the forums?

Baiyuan teaches forum etiquette and good manners Neil
As well as excellent miniature modelling.

Ah what a treat! Come back from a weekend of wild camping and foot destroying hill walking to find possibly the best armed ogryn I've ever seen.

@PDH:
Thx, for cheese and dice. What detail do you mean?

I meant the buzz saw blade teeth. But you have answered that with the WIP picture. Very nicely done!

Now perhaps I just wasn't paying attention before but I assumed the buzz saw was replacing his hand....not an actual buzz saw tool - which is simply stunningly! I think it works perfectly and I wish I had the imagination to have seen that final product from the parts.

My only suggestions are:

The pose. I think the ogryn needs to be tipped back. As in what he is standing on should not be flat. It should be sloped up towards the front of the base.

The blade guard. This part should go completely. Not that I don't think it looks cool but using a tool as a weapon and keeping the safety guard would make it pretty ineffective!Though it does look pretty heavy so I suppose he could just bludgeon his opponent with the guard

Peter

neil101 wrote:Wow i think i should congratulate you on your wonderfully written replies to so many comments as much as i should on your sidetracked Magus! Can only immagine the detailed lengths you will go to on such a project. Btw can i ask what you teach? if its not too personel a question for the forums?

I can hardly imagine any of my replies are wonderfully written considering my insufficient english language skills, but if you say so, well thank you very much.

I'm excited about the magus as well, must resist the urge to make a full-fledged project from it...

About my field of activity, I don't mind the question at all. I'm a teacher for two different subjects, language and martial arts. So on one hand I teach German and Chinese and on the other hand I teach traditional chinese martial arts, mostly to adults (though I also used to work with kids for some time). And if you were to ask my fiance she would say I teach absolutely everything, whether one asks me to or not.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Baiyuan teaches forum etiquette and good manners Neil
As well as excellent miniature modelling.

You know all the compliments could actually make me become arrogant, if I wasn't an arrogant bastard already, that is.

PDH wrote:Ah what a treat! Come back from a weekend of wild camping and foot destroying hill walking to find possibly the best armed ogryn I've ever seen.
Now perhaps I just wasn't paying attention before but I assumed the buzz saw was replacing his hand....not an actual buzz saw tool - which is simply stunningly! I think it works perfectly and I wish I had the imagination to have seen that final product from the parts.
My only suggestions are:

The pose. I think the ogryn needs to be tipped back. As in what he is standing on should not be flat. It should be sloped up towards the front of the base.

The blade guard. This part should go completely. Not that I don't think it looks cool but using a tool as a weapon and keeping the safety guard would make it pretty ineffective!Though it does look pretty heavy so I suppose he could just bludgeon his opponent with the guard

Best armed eh? Thanks!

About the pose, oh yes he will be tipped back, he actually is already. That's why I put him on the landraider hatch in the first place, but the bluetack gave in over the weeks, so the original angle isn't there anymore. Like I said somewhere before I want him to climb a slope to make him look less hunched. So we totally agree in this point. Another reason for this is that one can see much more of the saw if he is holding it out over an edge.

The blade guard... difficult topic. I hear what you say about it, had that in mind at some point too, but I came to the conclusion that it makes the saw more credible overall. I have difficulties to decide what to do with it, but I'm almost determined to get rid of the teeth on the saw itself. They distract from the blade, prevent the guard from being turned to the front and just don't feel absolutely right for a tool, which maybe has been quickly altered for better combat usage. I'll see what the guard looks like once the teeth are gone and decide then.

Talking about quick alterations I had the idea to bind the guard to the exhaust with some wire, like they wanted to make it not get in the way. Hhm, thanks for pushing me there, could be funny. Some more storytelling for that model.

Binding the guard open is a great idea . Best of both!

Peter

Hey guys,
just wanted to keep you up to date. It's been a rather busy week and I had to play through Crysis 2 (decent game). I'm done with that now and ready to get back to my projects.
I haven't been idle though, I installed a new chest of drawers in my workshop, which grants me much more space for my innumerable tools, bits and kits.
I also went back to further preparing some scenery kits for our gaming table, which is a pain in the ass.
I had a look into my Tau and Necron boxes, which both contain huge mainly untouched armies and found an old project, that is now intrigueing me to get back to. (A necron warmachine I dubbed tombscorpion something like 6 or 7 years ago.)
And last but not least I have been thinking, yeah just thinking, about how much I need to get painting more.

Anyhoo, I will have some time tomorrow, so let's see how I'll put it to use...

Hey Baiyuan!
Okay, Cortaro (Cutter? Nice touch!). First off: Wow. I'll just leave that on it's own, because that was, for around 30 seconds, my original reaction. No analysis, nothing else, just that. I have absolutely no idea how you fit those parts together in your head - looking at pieces from such eclectic sources and seeing something completely different, then putting them together in a way that not only works but works cohesively requires one hell of an analytical mind, and one that I am insanely jealous of.

That being said, I agree with some of the others in thinking that that guard should go. It looks perfectly fitting with the tool, and is definitely worth saving for another model, but I definitely think that if you've modified a saw with the express purpose of harm, keeping a protective cover on it is a little counterproductive! The binding may work though, and I'm sure you'll find a way

It sounds like I'm selling your saw short, but on of my favourite touches is the extra drive shaft (?) on his belt - it really sells the conversion, and ties his weapon to him. I'm sure you've stopped noticing all the comments on detail by now, but I can't resist

Overall - astounding. As always, any criticisms are incredibly minor, and barely worth making. BUT, I've come to understand that you're a fan of the little things, so still thought it was worth mentioning Keep up the amazing work, and sorry for the comment drought recently!

Just stumbled onto this thread, .... AWESOME work so far. That buzzsaw is to damn cool man. GREAT work on it.

Scarper wrote:Hey Baiyuan!
Okay, Cortaro (Cutter? Nice touch!). First off: Wow. I'll just leave that on it's own, because that was, for around 30 seconds, my original reaction. No analysis, nothing else, just that. I have absolutely no idea how you fit those parts together in your head - looking at pieces from such eclectic sources and seeing something completely different, then putting them together in a way that not only works but works cohesively requires one hell of an analytical mind, and one that I am insanely jealous of.
That being said, I agree with some of the others in thinking that that guard should go. It looks perfectly fitting with the tool, and is definitely worth saving for another model, but I definitely think that if you've modified a saw with the express purpose of harm, keeping a protective cover on it is a little counterproductive! The binding may work though, and I'm sure you'll find a way
It sounds like I'm selling your saw short, but on of my favourite touches is the extra drive shaft (?) on his belt - it really sells the conversion, and ties his weapon to him. I'm sure you've stopped noticing all the comments on detail by now, but I can't resist
Overall - astounding. As always, any criticisms are incredibly minor, and barely worth making. BUT, I've come to understand that you're a fan of the little things, so still thought it was worth mentioning Keep up the amazing work, and sorry for the comment drought recently!

Thank you for the flattering words, Scarper! You know I'm a huge fan of your stuff and I think that shows one thing: Even if what you say about my analytical mind is true and even though you might envy me (I tell you it's as much of curse, as of a blessing...), your work shows that there is more than one way to creating something great and inspiring. So we work in completely different ways from one another, and we both see things in the others work that are out of reach for us. I'm quite jealous of the flavor in your works. I find it hard to define, but there is something in your work that is beyond me, it really tickles the g-spot of my imagination. Your warden for example even as a wip is really pulling me in.
Oh and finally someone recognized (or just mentioned) the names are not coincidence. That's true for all my gangers btw and I'm glad you like it.

Behind th Mask wrote:Just stumbled onto this thread, .... AWESOME work so far. That buzzsaw is to damn cool man. GREAT work on it.

Thanks, and welcome to my blog man, stay tuned!

About my recent progress:

This whole week was not very creative/productive, I didn't get to do a lot of what I like the most, pushing the projects. And what I managed to do wasn't satisfying, I need a fix...

I only had one short session with my ogryn and I still have no idea what more needs to be done to him. I added a double tank to his back (works perfect, but needs to be blended into the rest) and I started fitting the mask of some fantasy ork on his face (wasn't sure about it at first I just thought his masked face was to plain, but it's starting to look good), but I still feel there is something amiss. I'm still considering giving him a big wrench, but I can't find a sensible spot to put it. Same for some other pieces of possible equipment. Really not sure yet.

I also built a base for Cortaro and I have to say, I hate it! Not the base, it's boring but not hateful. I mean making bases in general! Creating a diorama would be something different, because it becomes part of the model. But bashing together parts for a base, I don't like that... Anyway save for the sand/dust/dirt it's done now and that's a good thing.

I also spent a little time sawing and filing off parts of two Valhallans to convert them into Delaques. Worked quite ok on one of them, the other will need some serious "dremel"ing and I decided to get back to more important things for the moment before I got there.

What I did the most this week, was watching Scrubs and removing moldlines from some thousands of parts of scenery. I'm sure you know those bio hazard/chemical plants from tehnolog.ru. Well I got a couple of them and it's a pain in the ass to prepare them for assembly. I think I mentioned before that we bought scenery consisting of far more than 15k parts and I'm almost done preparing all the parts. Unfortunatly I have had only very little help and I'm starting to lose the spirit. There are still three more boxes I didn't even touch yet...

Always look on the bright side of life...

thats a lot of prepping mate. Create i diorama i say . a mini one , i did one today to stop burnout. you could always think of your bases as dioramas, allbeit tiny ones.

Hehehe, I'd noticed one or two of the names, but I had to look this one up, so thought I'd mention it Thanks so much for the (incredibly!) kind words, but rest assured that there was no flattery involved - I am seriously and genuinely impressed.

It sounds like the tank will have filled up a lot of the blank space on Cortaro's back, but I'm not really sure what else to suggest :/ You could try some survival gear? Or maybe a pendant or personal item hanging from his belt - kinda falls into the "dumb brute" cliche a little, but might add a little more character.

I always find when a model or project is really frustrating me (Case in point: Murdoch), the advice you gave me is excellent: Forget it for a while until you want to work on it again, otherwise you won't even want to look at it. Or you could burn it, I guess Hope things work out more favourably for you this week!

PDH sent me this way. That buzzsaw is amazing!

neil101 wrote:thats a lot of prepping mate. Create i diorama i say . a mini one , i did one today to stop burnout. you could always think of your bases as dioramas, allbeit tiny ones.

Now that you remind me, I'm still waiting for those tiny rats to add to my bases to make them look more lively...

Scarper wrote:It sounds like the tank will have filled up a lot of the blank space on Cortaro's back, but I'm not really sure what else to suggest :/ You could try some survival gear? Or maybe a pendant or personal item hanging from his belt - kinda falls into the "dumb brute" cliche a little, but might add a little more character.

Yes and No. (Did I mention that English really lacks a word to say both at the same time? In German we have "Jein" which is "Ja" and "Nein" in one word...) Anyway, even though the tanks take some space (it's a burnaboy backpack put on the side), there still is some space that really needs something, but it's really hard to find something to go there. That spot is above the original tankthing on his back, close to his right shoulder...

jackanory wrote:PDH sent me this way. That buzzsaw is amazing!

Thank you, welcome to my blog! I had a look at your scavvies and got to say, they something else. Very artsy and unique! I'll keep an eye on them.



In other news, I'm trying hard to force myself to paint. I know it will just take one motivational event to get me back to painting with pleasure, so I'm finishing off one of the gangers. Rayo it is and even though I've been quite sloppy out of the need to get him done, I think he doesn't suck that bad. He is done already, I just need to finish his base, because he didn't have a proper one when I started painting. I think I can finish him this night, so expect pictures before tomorrow.

look forward to it matey..

What is it with the fricking gallery? Uploaded those new pictures 6 times now and they are damaged everytime...

After trying another dozen times it finally worked... so here we go!

Update Time!

What I'm showin you this time is the first finished ganger of the Espantajos, his name is Rayo.

There is not much to say about the build, he used to be the renegade plasmagunner from the hq squad. I trimmed away the skull on his shoulder and replaced his plasmagun with a lasgun.

The paintjob is quite basic to be honest, because Rayo belongs to the first batch of gangers we started painting and is little more than a color scheme test.

I'm not exactly happy with how he turned out, but I really need to keep an eye on my standards if I want to get both my gangs done before retiring.

The scheme is like I said before: Orange jumpsuits, subtle colors for the rest of the equipment, greys, dark greens and browns.

The purple lenses on him are surely not everybody's cup of tea, but I like 'em. In the end there will be lots of different colored lenses for the miners.

One thing that might stand out is the color of the rifle and that I tried to make it look rather clean compared to the rest of his equip. The reasoning behind this is that slave miners don't normally are given rifles, so he took it from a guard after clubbing it down.

About the pictures, they are not ideal, some are blurred, some are dark, but most of them should give you a good impression of what Rayo looks like. (Although the orange of his suit for examples looks a little redder in the pics and so on.)

I think there isn't much more to say except be gentle with him, it's the first miniature I finished in more than 6 years.