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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 01:13:33
Subject: GW to order retailers to stop shipping to southern hemisphere...
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Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought
Realm of Hobby
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I would dare to assume this is both a price-rationalisation and the announcement of a partial move to resin-hybrid.
Afterall, we had another thread discussing the price of metal. However, I do not believe the entire range of metals would benefit or be able to be produced without modification of the moulds for the resin-hybrid production yet.
This would leave GW to either produce the remainder of their metals On-Demand through Direct - using the remainder of their metal stocks - and clearing the shelves for the new resin-hybrid products.
Alternatively, they could sell off the metal they have been sitting on and sell it at a profit (as they no doubt bought it cheaper) while they clear their old metals out of the warehouse.
Just my $0.02
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We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid  Since i avoid bushlands that is
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 01:18:56
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I still hold out hope that this is going to be a whole lot of nothing, or, better yet, a price rationalisation for Aussie prices to bring them in line with the rest of the world. If they did that they'd solve the problem without screwing everyone over.
If only... .I recently took a look at the Warzone web site, and they still have the 50%+ prices against the ones published on GW sites and only for shops not particulars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 03:34:12
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Hopefully, this is a trial balloon GW is floating to make people fret over subject A and then come out and just blindside us with a price increase, making half the world feel "relieved" that they can get the models still.
The fact that we're trying to see that as a -good- alternative shows how crappy the situation is.
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In Boxing matches, you actually get paid to take a dive and make the other guy look good.
In Warhammer 40K, you're expected to pay cash out of your pocket for the privilege of having Marines and IG trample all over your Xenos/Chaos. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 03:35:05
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I still hold out hope that this is going to be a whole lot of nothing, or, better yet, a price rationalisation for Aussie prices to bring them in line with the rest of the world. If they did that they'd solve the problem without screwing everyone over.
I hope this is the case, I'd like to support my local GW more
But after reading what Blongbling wrote in that thread on warseer, about the type of management he used to have to deal with( essentially they are ostriches burying thier heads in the sand) I don't know if they even understand the consequences that would arise from this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 03:35:16
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Malicious Mandrake
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I really don't want this to happen...
If true, I will likely quit the hobby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 04:20:40
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The New Miss Macross!
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Warboss Gutrip wrote:I really don't want this to happen...
If true, I will likely quit the hobby.
Don't quit "the" hobby, just quit the GW-branded variant. Contrary to what GW wants you to think, there was/is/will be scifi and fantasy wargaming regardless of what happens with their own lines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 08:57:34
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[DCM]
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Maybe there will be a price rationalisation... MAYBE GW will bring the rest of the world into line with crazy/zany GWOZ/GWNZ price structure.
If everyone was a ripped off as us, there would be noone in the southern hemisphere buying from the US/UK...
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2025: Games Played:8/Models Bought:162/Sold:169/Painted:127
2024: Games Played:6/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2016-19: Games Played:369/Models Bought:772/Sold:378/ Painted:268
2012-15: Games Played:412/Models Bought: 1163/Sold:730/Painted:436 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 08:58:23
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Maybe there will be a price rationalisation... MAYBE GW will bring the rest of the world into line with crazy/zany GWOZ/GWNZ price structure.
If everyone was a ripped off as us, there would be noone in the southern hemisphere buying from the US/UK...
If that were true, I think there would be very few people, if at all, buying from GW full stop...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 09:04:41
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[DCM]
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Anyone in the US feel like opening their wallet for the new 3 sepulctural stalker box set (WHFB tomb kings) for $96.15US instead of the current $54.50US that you guys are currently paying?
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2025: Games Played:8/Models Bought:162/Sold:169/Painted:127
2024: Games Played:6/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2016-19: Games Played:369/Models Bought:772/Sold:378/ Painted:268
2012-15: Games Played:412/Models Bought: 1163/Sold:730/Painted:436 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 09:34:12
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Kilkrazy wrote:40K is large skirmishes, really. If you want big battle SF you have to play Epic or one of the other 6mm or 15mm systems.
By coincidence this weekend I was searching into scifi wargammes with cool minis at 15mm... I never really was a big fan of this scale, but the convenience of the price and the quality of some manufacturers surprised me a lot.
So far my search took me to Ground zero games, critical mass games, gruntz, Khurasan models... lots of interesting things there and I was wondering if with a little bit of patience the 40k fans could not create some armies in 15mm.
Also since I dont know much about 15mm settings/games / manufacturers what minis and games do you advice? ( I know is a bit offtopic but we have to wait until tomorrow for some clarifications, so a alternative scale of scifigamming could be a lateral chat  )
As for rumours, well something is planned at GW, lets hope its for the commodity of their fan base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 09:54:22
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Maybe there will be a price rationalisation... MAYBE GW will bring the rest of the world into line with crazy/zany GWOZ/GWNZ price structure.
Please don't jinx the GW announcement! They might find your suggestion reasonable
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 19:23:36
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Kilkrazy wrote:40K is large skirmishes, really. If you want big battle SF you have to play Epic or one of the other 6mm or 15mm systems.
I'd play epic if I could bloody get minis for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 19:31:35
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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Even if it happens, it shouldn't change much. Surely someone could buy minis from a stockist then sell them in countries in the southern hemisphere. GW can't stop the individual as they have no agreement with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 19:31:57
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Several companies make 6mm SF models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 19:36:47
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
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There are plenty of old epic models kicking about on ebay too...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 19:39:05
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Seems too much like shooting yourself in the foot. Even GW isn't that stupid. Are they?
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'I once saw a man kill another with only a sock. It was slow and painful to watch...'
Darnath Lysander: The Man, The Mystery, The Legend
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 20:12:40
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Anyone in the US feel like opening their wallet for the new 3 sepulctural stalker box set (WHFB tomb kings) for $96.15US instead of the current $54.50US that you guys are currently paying?
At an over 75% price increase, that would end my purchases of GW product... I have a Hordes force and a good group who play it to turn to instead.
I'd still enjoy using my current GW army, but there would be no further purchases from me except in dire circumstances, and then probably second-hand.
And I spend a lot on GW... but obviously that kind of jump is an easy excuse for many customers to stop being customers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 20:12:55
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yes, yes they are that stupid.
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Hope more old fools come to their senses and start giving you their money instead of those Union Jack Blood suckers... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 20:59:21
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Crazed Bloodkine
Baltimore, Maryland
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Anyone in the US feel like opening their wallet for the new 3 sepulctural stalker box set (WHFB tomb kings) for $96.15US instead of the current $54.50US that you guys are currently paying?
Sure, as long as we get your minimum wage as well, which is double ours in the US and it would probably balance out.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 22:31:22
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yeah that particular argument doesn't fly. GWOZ prices were not set based on wages, they were set based on exchange rates, and then never updated.
Try again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 23:08:59
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Sinewy Scourge
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It's Monday morning for me. The moment of truth approaches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 23:14:55
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Numberless Necron Warrior
New Zealand
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NELS1031 wrote:Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Anyone in the US feel like opening their wallet for the new 3 sepulctural stalker box set (WHFB tomb kings) for $96.15US instead of the current $54.50US that you guys are currently paying?
Sure, as long as we get your minimum wage as well, which is double ours in the US and it would probably balance out.
We will give you our minimum wage, if you give us your petrol / food / rent / electronics prices / etc. / etc.
I'm sure inflation in NZ/OZ has made up for the minimum wage difference. I know for a fact from chatting to my mate in AZ that we pay on average twice the price for electronics across the board. We have done a bunch of comparisions and it really appears inflation has caused our minimum wage to be as high as it is. Any less than what is currently and you honestly will be struggling to get by, GW models would be a dream item that you couldn't justify even ordering from over seas.
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Retired Space Marine and Necron 40K player. Looking to start Warmahordes in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 23:15:56
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AesSedai wrote:It's Monday morning for me. The moment of truth approaches.
Im guessing the official anouncement will be made some time during UKs morning, if you guys happen to get news, please feel free to post them.
I am rather interested in what the future of my hobby will be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 23:27:49
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I haven't seen this rumour mentioned over on Warseer. Which raises some questions in itself.
I'm still not sure what to think of it. I just want to know wtf is going on... I can't stand to read any more speculation. All it manages to do is irritate, anger and frustrate me. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 23:33:33
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Dakka Veteran
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Sectiplave wrote:NELS1031 wrote:Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Anyone in the US feel like opening their wallet for the new 3 sepulctural stalker box set (WHFB tomb kings) for $96.15US instead of the current $54.50US that you guys are currently paying?
Sure, as long as we get your minimum wage as well, which is double ours in the US and it would probably balance out.
We will give you our minimum wage, if you give us your petrol / food / rent / electronics prices / etc. / etc.
I'm sure inflation in NZ/OZ has made up for the minimum wage difference. I know for a fact from chatting to my mate in AZ that we pay on average twice the price for electronics across the board. We have done a bunch of comparisions and it really appears inflation has caused our minimum wage to be as high as it is. Any less than what is currently and you honestly will be struggling to get by, GW models would be a dream item that you couldn't justify even ordering from over seas.
We pay 200%+ for the same product and the average wage was published las weekend at $600 dollars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 23:38:57
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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oni wrote:I haven't seen this rumour mentioned over on Warseer.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303360
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 00:12:02
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Make friends with UK members?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 01:13:06
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Numberless Necron Warrior
New Zealand
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The Plastic Surgeon wrote:Make friends with UK members?
Worst comes to worst, my brother lives in France
Free shipping is bloody great though, so I'm not sure how much that would add onto orders.
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Retired Space Marine and Necron 40K player. Looking to start Warmahordes in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 01:18:16
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Crazed Bloodkine
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah that particular argument doesn't fly. GWOZ prices were not set based on wages, they were set based on exchange rates, and then never updated.
Try again.
Yes, and the prices that GW charge Australia for their product is no more out of whack then what Apple, Nike, Sony, Microsoft and most car manufacturers charge for their products when compared to US prices. Even with currency parity, you can't always have price parity, due to international shipping, tariff etc. Its complicated micro and macro economics at play.
I contemplated moving to Australia in the early 2000's and the recurring theme was that most goods are just plain more expensive over there, and its a begrudgingly accepted part of life. Why is GW evil or idiotic when they do what practically everyone else does in Australia?
I'm not trying to troll or anything, its just that I don't understand why in a land where its accepted to be paying extra then most of the world for anything, GW's business policy is such an absurdity.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 01:20:06
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Making Stuff
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NELS1031 wrote:I'm not trying to troll or anything, its just that I don't understand why in a land where its accepted to be paying extra then most of the world for anything, GW's business policy is such an absurdity.
Commonplace =/= Accepted.
Those Australians who are actually aware of the fact that we pay a huge amount more for stuff than other countries tend to be pretty cranky about it.
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