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Asherian Command wrote:You know. Having hope is good.

First thing I thought of reading that was:

"It is better to die in hope, than to live in despair. Let me be your liberator!"

Goddamn you Yunalesca!

MrDwhitey wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:You know. Having hope is good.

First thing I thought of reading that was:

"It is better to live in hope, than to die in despair. Let me be your liberator!"

Goddamn you Yunalesca!

Basically. i rather die with happy thoughts than depressed

Asherian Command wrote:

Karon wrote:I've never agreed with Religion in general, not just Christianity, but all Religion.

I just don't see the need for it, it just seems like a crutch for the weak-minded that need to know some omnipotent being that may or may not actually be there is behind them at all times.

I've thought all my life that in my moment of death, however it happens, I will never pray to God to send me to Heaven.

Wait are you calling me? Weak Minded?
Because I like to believe that there is an afterlife. Because nothing after death is just disappointing to me.

You remind me of someone I know who upon being questioned why he needed to believe in an afterlife, said that without an afterlife there was no point in living. Which I can't my head around at all.

Whereas I believe that without an afterlife you should make the very best of your time on Earth, he thought that without heaven, life was entirely pointless because once you're dead it would have just amount to nothing.

The best thing is not to believe in an afterlife, concentrate on living, and if there is something afterwards, take it as a pleasant surprise.

Asherian Command wrote:

MrDwhitey wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:You know. Having hope is good.

First thing I thought of reading that was:

"It is better to live in hope, than to die in despair. Let me be your liberator!"

Goddamn you Yunalesca!

Basically. i rather die with happy thoughts than depressed

I actually quoted it wrong, it was die in hope, live in despair.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Karon wrote:I've never agreed with Religion in general, not just Christianity, but all Religion.

I just don't see the need for it, it just seems like a crutch for the weak-minded that need to know some omnipotent being that may or may not actually be there is behind them at all times.

I've thought all my life that in my moment of death, however it happens, I will never pray to God to send me to Heaven.

Wait are you calling me? Weak Minded?
Because I like to believe that there is an afterlife. Because nothing after death is just disappointing to me.

You remind me of someone I know who upon being questioned why he needed to believe in an afterlife, said that without an afterlife there was no point in living. Which I can't my head around at all.

Whereas I believe that without an afterlife you should make the very best of your time on Earth, he thought that without heaven, life was entirely pointless because once you're dead it would have just amount to nothing.

The best thing is not to believe in an afterlife, concentrate on living, and if there is something afterwards, take it as a pleasant surprise.

Nah, I believe in an Afterlife and I believe that good things will become of you if you help other people.

Of course I follow Chiviliary so I really don't care what others opinions are about god, I know he is out there, I can't prove it, but I will do my duty to god and country.

Just because I believe in the afterlife doesn't make me think "I can't wait to die!"

Its not really like that it is something good to know that it is my reward for helping others. thats about it. I've been raised in a Lutheran family so we are very less strict with choosing our paths.

But anyway my opinions will be dismissed because I believe in a god.

Believe in an afterlife if you want to, but remember that you only have one life which is certain, and you are currently digging into the time you have to live it.

Don't waste your earthbound life planning for what comes after it; you'll either have an eternity to do it when you get there, or you'll have wasted your life on something that does not exist.

Worry not how you will live your next life, but instead how you're living your current one.

Avatar 720 wrote:Believe in an afterlife if you want to, but remember that you only have one life which is certain, and you are currently digging into the time you have to live it.

Don't waste your earthbound life planning for what comes after it; you'll either have an eternity to do it when you get there, or you'll have wasted your life on something that does not exist.

Worry not how you will live your next life, but instead how you're living your current one.

I didn't say anything along those lines. I said I want to help other people and do stuff.

I am currently working on stuff. I am also studying Game Design, so I kinda have to do the out of the box thinking etc. So I am kinda of a dreamer.

Asherian Command wrote:But anyway my opinions will be dismissed because I believe in a god.

Don't be a martyr about it.

Asherian Command wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Believe in an afterlife if you want to, but remember that you only have one life which is certain, and you are currently digging into the time you have to live it.

Don't waste your earthbound life planning for what comes after it; you'll either have an eternity to do it when you get there, or you'll have wasted your life on something that does not exist.

Worry not how you will live your next life, but instead how you're living your current one.

I didn't say anything along those lines. I said I want to help other people and do stuff.

I am currently working on stuff. I am also studying Game Design, so I kinda have to do the out of the box thinking etc. So I am kinda of a dreamer.

I didn't say you did, if it was aimed at you i'd have quoted your post or named you

As it stands, it was a a general thought about a topic being discussed.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:But anyway my opinions will be dismissed because I believe in a god.

Don't be a martyr about it.

I see the glass half empty.
I have fought agruements against Atheists because I see some of them as stuck-ups. Helk I posted a thread here about a Scientist almost getting fired by a radical atheist, the teacher said choose what you want to believe "I believe it this way. Doesn't mean you should listen to my opinions on evolution. Its your Decision." Which the radical ignored...

Anyway I am Christian-Luthern, And I believe what i believe because i like god.



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Avatar 720 wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Believe in an afterlife if you want to, but remember that you only have one life which is certain, and you are currently digging into the time you have to live it.

Don't waste your earthbound life planning for what comes after it; you'll either have an eternity to do it when you get there, or you'll have wasted your life on something that does not exist.

Worry not how you will live your next life, but instead how you're living your current one.

I didn't say anything along those lines. I said I want to help other people and do stuff.

I am currently working on stuff. I am also studying Game Design, so I kinda have to do the out of the box thinking etc. So I am kinda of a dreamer.

I didn't say you did, if it was aimed at you i'd have quoted your post or named you

As it stands, it was a a general thought about a topic being discussed.

that it is. I take religion with a grain of salt. I have studied wars. I have called the calothics evil. due to the crusades XD

I think a better question would be, "How do you define "God," and do feel if this definition continues to be relevant in our modern society?"

And I want that to be at least two pages and double spaced with 1 inch margins, please.

rubiksnoob wrote:I think a better question would be, "How do you define "God," and do feel if this definition continues to be relevant in our modern society?"

And I want that to be at least two pages and double spaced with 1 inch margins, please.

1 inch margins?
Really? That is going to be difficult
2 pages? Really? Ah man thats worse.

And i will never answer that because i have to get back to my work.

Asherian Command wrote:I think a better question would be, "How do you define "God," and do feel if this definition continues to be relevant in our modern society?"

As soon as the Emperor decides to reveal himself, I'll get right on that.

Goddard wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:I think a better question would be, "How do you define "God," and do feel if this definition continues to be relevant in our modern society?"

As soon as the Emperor decides to reveal himself, I'll get right on that.

He revealed himself to me once...

It was more than a good enough reason to join Chaos.

mattyrm wrote: Absolutely dead in my eyes, and the figures suggest that Religion is dying out in every Western nation bar America.

This board has lots of American's using it though, so I suggest you keep these thoughts to yourself before you get banned for a week. Religious discussion never ends well.

Dakka ain't a democracy, and our iron fisted rulers like Jesus.

Religion is dying in America. What's not dead yet is rotten.

There are of course pockets of true believers (whatever their creed may be) through out the world.

Just a few statements that I would like to respond to. 1) Having hope is good. That's a very broad statement that could cover anything. However, if I was a ruler of my own country and an enormous asteroid was a week or two away from hitting our planet with dead certianty, and my people asked me about I would tell them not to worry as it would miss us. I would do this because there would be nothing to gain by being truthful and I would leave them to live their last few weeks in peace. But on the other hand, if a dying man asked me if he was dying I would tell him the truth because there would come a point where he would realise the truth for himself and I wouldn't want to be responsible for crushing his soul. Giving hope when there is none can be very cruel. I will tackle the other questions in another post because I'm doing this on my mobile and it's really tricky.

I'm a Deist, so I get by pretty well.

Avatar 720 wrote:

Goddard wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:I think a better question would be, "How do you define "God," and do feel if this definition continues to be relevant in our modern society?"

As soon as the Emperor decides to reveal himself, I'll get right on that.

He revealed himself to me once...

It was more than a good enough reason to join Chaos.

Ooooooh...I see what you did there....haha.

But that is still heresy, prepare to die.

MrDwhitey wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:You know. Having hope is good.

First thing I thought of reading that was:

"It is better to die in hope, than to live in despair. Let me be your liberator!"

Goddamn you Yunalesca!

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

GalacticDefender wrote:

MrDwhitey wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:You know. Having hope is good.

First thing I thought of reading that was:

"It is better to die in hope, than to live in despair. Let me be your liberator!"

Goddamn you Yunalesca!

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

That the first thing I thought of as well.

I'm open to the possibility of an afterlife but if there is one that still wouldn't prove that God exists. If if there is indeed an afterlife then there would be a science to it, making it as 'real' as our own Universe. Question 2) If a religious person performs a good deed so that they may reap the benefit in the hereafter and an athiest performs a good deed also, who's deed is the most altruistically motitivated?

Avatar 720 wrote:Believe in an afterlife if you want to, but remember that you only have one life which is certain, and you are currently digging into the time you have to live it.

Don't waste your earthbound life planning for what comes after it; you'll either have an eternity to do it when you get there, or you'll have wasted your life on something that does not exist.

Worry not how you will live your next life, but instead how you're living your current one.

Big, Hearty, secular Amen to that mate!

Muhr wrote:I'm open to the possibility of an afterlife but if there is one that still wouldn't prove that God exists. If if there is indeed an afterlife then there would be a science to it, making it as 'real' as our own Universe. Question 2) If a religious person performs a good deed so that they may reap the benefit in the hereafter and an athiest performs a good deed also, who's deed is the most altruistically motitivated?

If they're doing it specifically for post death favours then the atheist would be more altruistic.

Or should i facepalm for not recognising a rhetorical question?

Goddard wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

Goddard wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:I think a better question would be, "How do you define "God," and do feel if this definition continues to be relevant in our modern society?"

As soon as the Emperor decides to reveal himself, I'll get right on that.

He revealed himself to me once...

It was more than a good enough reason to join Chaos.

Ooooooh...I see what you did there....haha.

But that is still heresy, prepare to die.

You know what's more heretical? Stuffing.

You can't judge a man by the size of his codpiece; I learned that the limp way.

Karon wrote:I see it that people would be all around stronger in mind and body if they didn't have to rely on Religion to confirm their beliefs, or decide them for them all together.

Like I said, it just seems like a crutch for people who don't want to, or can't, think for themselves.

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"

That is a really sad way to look at things. Hope is a great thing for people to have. If a loved one is diagnosed with a disease your telling me that you dont hope they will be ok? You dont hope they could pull through no matter how low the odds? I think your trying to convince yourself saying things like that.

I also dont think having faith in something makes you ignorant or that you need a crutch. That sounds like your projecting

KingCracker wrote:

Karon wrote:I see it that people would be all around stronger in mind and body if they didn't have to rely on Religion to confirm their beliefs, or decide them for them all together.

Like I said, it just seems like a crutch for people who don't want to, or can't, think for themselves.

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"

That is a really sad way to look at things. Hope is a great thing for people to have. If a loved one is diagnosed with a disease your telling me that you dont hope they will be ok? You dont hope they could pull through no matter how low the odds? I think your trying to convince yourself saying things like that.

I also dont think having faith in something makes you ignorant or that you need a crutch. That sounds like your projecting

Why U no get 40k reference?????

40k reference or no, he still used it to make his point

Ah whoa wut? lol I thought you were quoting my post because I said the exact same thing and didn't bother looking lol

lol Oh, I see the confusion. Infact....Im a bit confused as well

Somewhat related to this story, I was in Amsterdam all last week and went to the Van Gogh museum.

What happened to Theo Van Gogh is a fething disgusting tragedy, and frankly im even more enraged by it than I usually am about this kinda thing.

Why do Religious people DEMAND protection and equality, but then they are willing to MURDER someone for doing what they do? How can you preach about the right to dissent and then butcher people in the streets for doing so?

If I ruled the world...