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It has? Awesome. If Exterminatus wasn't coming out today, I'd start playing lol.
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Kanluwen wrote:Now, with The Old Republic launching this year--Pandaren, Blizzard's ace in the hole are launching.
No. Blizzard is launching the Deathwing battle to coincide with TOR's release on Dec 20 in patch 4.3 from what I hear. Pandera is following their normal 2 year expansion cycle. I don't think they've ever had the benefit of getting to hose another MMO with a full expansion Usually they launch long awaited content to strategically hurt rivals in the vital first few weeks.
I can appreciate the viciousness but it does seem a little mean
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Kanluwen wrote:Now, with The Old Republic launching this year--Pandaren, Blizzard's ace in the hole are launching.
No. Blizzard is launching the Deathwing battle to coincide with TOR's release on Dec 20 in patch 4.3 from what I hear. Pandera is following their normal 2 year expansion cycle. I don't think they've ever had the benefit of getting to hose another MMO with a full expansion Usually they launch long awaited content to strategically hurt rivals in the vital first few weeks.
I can appreciate the viciousness but it does seem a little mean
See, you're underestimating exactly how big of a deal the mere announcement of Pandaria is. When I played, I knew people who would bankrupt themselves if it meant having the Pandaren as a playable race.
I personally never understood the lure. It's anthropomorphic panda bears, big whoop.
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Kanluwen wrote:See, you're underestimating exactly how big of a deal the mere announcement of Pandaria is. When I played, I knew people who would bankrupt themselves if it meant having the Pandaren as a playable race.
I personally never understood the lure. It's anthropomorphic panda bears, big whoop.
I'm just saying a different release is coinciding with TOR's launch. I don't find anything unusual about the announcement. This is the same time and manner new WoW expansions have always been announced. At Blizzcon. Now I do think them picking Panderans over the Emerald Dream or some such is a big deal. I think its a sign of desperation. Surely Blizzard isn't completely oblivious to how precarious their boat has gotten and how many players really wish they had something better to do with their time So rather than building on the lore they have, they throw in the wild card everyone wants.
I don't get the pandas either though I have a buddy who has played WoW constantly for its entire life (despite his claims that he hates it *I don't believe him*). He says that the original lore was really good, but I've never seen it and he complains that the new lore sucks in comparison.
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The lore that wasw directly pulled from the WC games wasn't bad, certainly. But that stuff ran thin in such an expansive game...
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I'm actually surprised Emerald Dream isn't the next expansion. That one's seemed to be the crowd favorite for the next WoW expansion for awhile from what I could tell. I don't really see how panda people will drawn in new demographics. Maybe it can build of the popularity of Kung Fu Panda but the movie isn't that popular. I don't really see any way for WoW to expand its player base. More or less the bulk of the MMO player community plays WoW. Blizzards real plan I assume is retention, which the panda people seems to achieve for reasons unknown to us apparently.
P.S. They'd actually score points with me if they had some random NPC or PC voice that said 'Skadoosh.'
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Chrysaor686 wrote:City of Heroes: Freedom has been out for a few weeks now. You have to pay to access Going Rogue, but once you buy it, you have unlimited access to the content (you are not required to subscribe, in other words).
It still holds up decently. I spent a lot of time in CoH, simply because I enjoyed creating different character concepts. It's probably the most shallow MMO on the market, but what it does, it still does exceedingly well.
I think you'll enjoy Transformers Universe when it comes out. From playing with the Character Creator at Botcon, it's very reminiscent of CoX's, even down to being able to choose your alt mode. Aesthetics wise, it takes place in the Aligned Continuity(War for Cybertron and TF: Prime).
Supposedly, it'll have more than just 'Bots and 'Cons, too.
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@Lordofhats - They've oddly skipped over that though, there was a novel, and some in game events, dreams wtc for a little while and I think that is considered done.
Both Malfurion is back awake, and Ysera is back as well, so I'm pretty sure they said at last years Blizzcon they considered Emerald Dream done. Note sure why, perhaps they didn't feel there was much of a story to it.
I know Chris Metzen likes the idea of going to the Draenei homeworld at some point, and also allowing the players to face the full might of the Shattered Legion.
@Chrysaor, aye you are probably right there. Sadly with no experience of them, I can't really shed much of a opnion. I didn't even have a gaming ready PC till 2003, so I missed a lot of the older stuff.
I do know from folks I've spoken to in the know, that Mythic (or GW telling them so) made a huge error in not continuing with the DAoC style and having three factions, they didn't last long in WaR because they felt it was too much of a WoW clone.
On a side note, I do have a paid CoH account, haven't played this month, put I'm a 'premium?' (not sure what sub holders are called) member at the mo, love that game, sadly Aura isn't much of a Superhero fan, otherwise we'd be playing it more.
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Actaully, even if you buy all the Going Rogue stuff in City of Heroes available to Free-to-Play players, you don't get access to the Incarnate system, which is the endgame content for City of Heroes. You need to subscribe to do that.
corpsesarefun wrote:If only there was a high quality MMO that was truly sub free...
So far, such a thing does not exist, for the most part. I fething love City of Heroes but again, you have to sub for endgame, and it's definitely not going to appeal to everyone. It's just always struck the right chord with me; character advancement, customization, combat, and while it's certainly not Bioware, I've always liked CoH's story arcs. A lot of people like LotRO, but I found it kind of dull. Guild Wars 2 looks like it'll be pretty good; it's not free to play per se since you have to buy the box, but there's no monthly fee. DCUO is going free-to-play but it's about as deep as wading pool. Combat is a blast, but the game is lacking in... substance.
Free to Play seems to be the future, according to many in the industry; I wouldn't be surprised if The Old Republic was the last real subscription based game.
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Well, GW 2 or LoTRO would be your best bet. You do have to buy stuff in the item shop to get access to certain content for LotRO, but I don't think you'll have to for GW2.
Shrike325 wrote:I've been playing WoW off an on since release, and Cata kind of killed it for me. This announcement has done nothing to change my opinion. Especially after spending some time in TOR.
This.
I've played since day 1 launch, but i've quit about a dozen times. Since Cata though, I think I've played maybe a total of 2 months. Cata was pretty terrible. To me, WoW ended with Arthas, his story has been built up since Warcraft 3 and it was an epic conclusion. Deathwing does have a lot of lore, but it was NEVER explored in really any of the games... i mean aside from his very small appearance in warcraft 2.
Honestly, the dungeons havent really been that great since TBC either. If you compare Illadins Black Temple to Lich Kings Icecrown Citadel... Black Temple was a fething epic exploration. From a crack in the wall into the sewers you fought your way to the top to square off vs Illiadin. In ICC, you ride a air ship and skip 90% of the spire , go to the top and fight around a giant doughnut killing a few bosses and fighting arthas. In Cata, first raid is what? Thats right folks, another doughnut. Similar layout to ICC, i just gave up. Came back for firelands, got my dungeon gear, our first week we got to rag :/
Very disappointing. Will not be purchasing this xpac and will be moving to GW2 and SWTOR when they release.
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DMO might be a worthy game, no idea, I'm still weary over a couple of the choices, like Black Templars or go home for Marines.
The other MMO that is very likely to grab me, will be WoD, I'm keeping a close eye on that one. Hell did you see how they announcd which clans will be in game.
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I was looking forward to World of Darkness Online, but now I'm leery. CCP has laid off a giant chunk of their staff, and I think all of them were working on WoDO. They want to focus on EVE. According to an Editor at Massively.com who claims to have an inside source in CCP, more layoffs are coming if revenues don't increase.
CCP will produce a WoD MMO (unless they want to get sued, since they're contractually obligated to make one due to the White Wolf Merger), but I hold out little hope that it'll be any good, and even then, I wouldn't be surprised if 2012 is no longer a realistic target.
I don't have time to watch that whole video, so I have just one question:
Malkavians?
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Although I'll mostly likely hold off until the inevitable Werewolf expansion.
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LOTRO is free to play the epic quests, but to unlock all the
abilities you end up having to buy points. If you pay for a little
while then cease to pay, you keep everything except access
to certain areas.
I don't know how much you can actually play for free.
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@corpses - He's talking about Garou for WoD, the werewolves from Werewolf the Apocalypse.
Also I am totally there alongside him, my main reason to play WoD, would be to help the subs stay up until they hopefully added WtA to the mix. At which point I'll be playing a Wendigo or Shadowlord online if you need me.
Yeah that was my worry about Lotr free to play, as soon as folks started mentioning quest packs, and such, I raised a doubtful eyebrow.
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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Yeah that was my worry about Lotr free to play, as soon as folks started mentioning quest packs, and such, I raised a doubtful eyebrow.
They have to make money somehow. You can still go pretty much anywhere and grind out levels but they need to have some way of getting the money needed to both keep the servers running as well as add content. It is possible to earn enough Turbine points playing the game to "buy" these packs. All the areas up to about level 20 have everything unlocked content wise. After that having the quest packs will increase leveling speed quite a bit, but you can get along w/o it. The higher you go, the harder it would be, but that shouldn't be a surprise. I think you can get crafting skills up to Artisan before needing to unlock the next level.
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You earn points while playing, I just don't know how much you
can earn for free...
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Usually they launch long awaited content to strategically hurt rivals in the vital first few weeks.
So rather than building on the lore they have, they throw in the wild card everyone wants.
I have a buddy who has played WoW constantly for its entire life (despite his claims that he hates it *I don't believe him*). He says that the original lore was really good, but I've never seen it and he complains that the new lore sucks in comparison.
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