Forge World Newsletter #301 (now with Stormeagle pic!)

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**Kanluwen**

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:It saddens me that they're having to reveal something early simply because someone found it by accident.

Really?

Yeah. I like seeing the Open Day previews, and this was going to most likely be a big surprise there. It wasn't even in the newsletter which was supposed to come out today, so it would have been something for sale on Sunday that nobody had any inkling was coming.

It's one less piece of something "exciting" to come out of Open Day, and that's what makes me sad.

**darknightwing**

AegisGrimm wrote:
I say screw the Space marine chibi-flyers and convince GW to produce an affordable plastic Land Speeder Tempest. It could be done with a single sprue added to the basic 'Speeder boxed set, like the Tornado, and you could then buy two of them for a little more than the $50 pricetag from FW for just one. I would fly a complete squadron of several of those before I'd buy even a single Hawk/Raven.

You do realize that the Tempest is almost twice the size of the other landspeeder variants. If they made a part to resemble one for them it would truly be a chibi model.

**Charax**

Kanluwen wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:It saddens me that they're having to reveal something early simply because someone found it by accident.

Really?

Yeah. I like seeing the Open Day previews, and this was going to most likely be a big surprise there. It wasn't even in the newsletter which was supposed to come out today, so it would have been something for sale on Sunday that nobody had any inkling was coming.

It's one less piece of something "exciting" to come out of Open Day, and that's what makes me sad.

But this isn't the first time Forgeworld's web guys have revealed stuff via incorrect folder permissions. I used to browse to the root of their PDF directory (much faster way of grabbing the rules) and for about a month they had a supplement for Wizards of the Coast's Star Wars RPG on there, just sitting there. It was only when I posted about it on Warseer that they finally remembered the use of .htaccess files and folder permissions

It looks like that lesson has been unlearnt, but if you put something on your publicly-accessible web server it WILL BE FOUND If they really wanted a big reveal, the trick is to upload the page only during or after the reveal, not a week or two before...

**H.B.M.C.**

ph34r wrote:The stormraven is ugly and the CH stormraven is still ugly. Not even being sculpted by one of CH's non-awful sculptors would make it somehow good.

The CHS conversion kit was made by someone in the PM&B forum. The guys from CHS saw it and said "Hey, can we make that?" and the guy went "Sure!".

**Kanluwen**

Forge World wrote: As this is a pre-release, rules will be included in the stock we have on Sunday. When it goes up for pre-order in the next few weeks, the pdf will be added to the product page

**marv335**

Anyone else noticed that this is a 1st April item?
I'm thinking hoax by FW.

**kronk**

marv335 wrote:Anyone else noticed that this is a 1st April item?
I'm thinking hoax by FW.

Nah. Today is March 30. They wouldn't do a 3 day hoax. They aren't that organized.

**Kanluwen**

Forge World's Open Day has been around April 1st for years. They haven't done a joke before; it's safe to say that this is not what they would start with.

They also posted the newsletter today; which is y'know...not April 1st.

**warboss**

Kanluwen wrote:
Forge World wrote: As this is a pre-release, rules will be included in the stock we have on Sunday. When it goes up for pre-order in the next few weeks, the pdf will be added to the product page

Cool. Hopefully one of the enterprising young dakkites with an iphone will upload a pic of the rules. I'm curious to see how it relates to both the storm raven and thunderhawk (obviously, I'm expecting something inbetween in ability and points).

**AegisGrimm**

You do realize that the Tempest is almost twice the size of the other landspeeder variants. If they made a part to resemble one for them it would truly be a chibi model.

Not that I ever knew of. It's a single-seat landspeeder variant, with an enclosed cockpit. I have never seen it in person, but to me it just looks like a cockpit on a normal landspeeder, with variant weapons. It's been lengthened, I guess but I couldn't see it as twice the size. Althoug heven as a slightly larger separate kit that was 25% bigger than a normal Landspeeder I would buy one before a Stormraven.

**H.B.M.C.**

Why don't FW do Apirl Fool's jokes?

GW's jokes are always amazing. That 'Finecast' thing they did last year was hilarious. Yeah, they did it in May, but that's beside the point: Best joke ever!!!

**Sir Samuel Buca**

Whilst we're all drooling/ arguing over the Storm Eagle, I feel sorry for the Predator Executioner. I think that is one awesome model, that should be getting some love.
But back to the main subject of conversation, I really like the Storm Eagle, I've always been in two minds about the Storm Raven, it's not great, but it's okay. The Storm Eagle, however, reminds me of the Thunder Hawk, which I happen to love. Yes, it does seem to resemble a Manta, but it fits well with the design of SM vehicles so far. I like the aesthetics of it, the weapon placements don't bother me at all, the missiles could be homing for all we know. And as for the whole conversion versus full kit argument? I'm going with full kit, there's just too many differences to the Raven.

**ceorron**

kronk wrote:
marv335 wrote:Anyone else noticed that this is a 1st April item?
I'm thinking hoax by FW.

Nah. Today is March 30. They wouldn't do a 3 day hoax. They aren't that organized.

QFT

**Redemption**

Forgeworld has now explicitly said the Storm Eagle is not an April Fools joke. Can we put this tiresome argument to rest now?

**BrassScorpion**

So they took the major common complaints they had about the Stormraven and are releasing an accordingly modified version of it at roughly twice the cost? $66 US is bad enough for the Stormraven, the Storm Eagle looks okay, but at a price of about $130 I'll pass.

And GW NEVER jokes about money.

In all the 'is it an April Fool' debate surrounding the Storm Eagle (it isn't by the way), you may have missed a few other advanced releases that will be on sale at the Forge World Open Day on Sunday, well before their scheduled release dates:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Home/Deimos_Predator_Executioner.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Home/Imperial_Armour_Model_Masterclass_Volume_Two.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Home/Chaos_Decimator.html

**ceorron**

Redemption wrote:Forgeworld has now explicitly said the Storm Eagle is not an April Fools joke. Can we put this tiresome argument to rest now?

Of course FW wouldn't openly admit that this is an April Fools joke, that would spoil the joke. The big reveal must be on the 2nd it is April Fool law.

**Chowderhead**

EDIT: [img] Redacted for the sanity of Dakka to continue.

**UltraPrime**

Do any of you understand how April Fools works? I really don't think so...

**Vitruvian XVII**

Chowder thats the wrong meme surely?

**Chowderhead**

Edited because I'm an idiot and I'm wrong a lot.

Deal with it.

**Vitruvian XVII**

But 1st world problems girl seems to apply better?

**Pacific**

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
Zweischneid wrote:Storm Eagle looks fairly lame. Backside has an almost Tau-like appearance.

Glad GW does the infinitly superiour Storm Raven instead. Should put the Eagle right back into whatever fan-boy cellar they took it. Looks like they just kitbashed random molds they had flying around instead of actually bothering with "design" in any resemblance of the word.

if by superior you mean inferior then yes

Ignore what Zweischneid says about FW, he has serious issues with them, and is almost certainly going for the 'angry man of Dakka' award for 2012 (and it's just March!)

Basically the Stormeagle is what the Stormraven should have been. But, in between the design and implementation stage it went through 'cost-benefit analysis' and the sales team decided they should try and fit it on less sprues, so instead we got the fisher-price toy that is the Stormraven.

**UltraPrime**

Chowderhead wrote:
UltraPrime wrote:Do any of you understand how April Fools works? I really don't think so...

It's not a joke. FW came out and said it's not. FW has never pulled a April Fool's day joke.

So please, stop saying it is.

@Vit: Cynical Wonka is the correct meme.

I KNOW it's not! That was my point! It's March!

**Chowderhead**

UltraPrime wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
UltraPrime wrote:Do any of you understand how April Fools works? I really don't think so...

It's not a joke. FW came out and said it's not. FW has never pulled a April Fool's day joke.

So please, stop saying it is.

@Vit: Cynical Wonka is the correct meme.

I KNOW it's not! That was my point! It's March!

Oh. I thought you were being serious, not cynical.

My bad, mate. No hard feelings?

**UltraPrime**

Chowderhead wrote:
UltraPrime wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
UltraPrime wrote:Do any of you understand how April Fools works? I really don't think so...

It's not a joke. FW came out and said it's not. FW has never pulled a April Fool's day joke.

So please, stop saying it is.

@Vit: Cynical Wonka is the correct meme.

I KNOW it's not! That was my point! It's March!

Oh. I thought you were being serious, not cynical.

My bad, mate. No hard feelings?

None at all lol.

**pretre**

Forge World Newsflash

Hi there,
We’re now only two days away from the Forge World Open Day on Sunday 1st April, and today we can officially announce that the Space Marine Storm Eagle Assault Gunship will be on sale there in limited numbers!

Space Marine Storm Eagle Assault Gunship
The legendary mobility of the Adeptus Astartes has won planet-spanning conflicts with a single strike; providing the precise application of deadly force at the point where it proved most decisive. A Chapter’s fleet of attack craft is the keystone that makes this possible, and it is the iconic Thunderhawks and Drop Pods that are at the forefront. Craft such as the Storm Eagle Assault Gunship follow close behind to lend their weapons to the devastating assault.

A formidable gunship, the Storm Eagle mounts fearsome firepower for a vehicle of its size and is capable of transporting twenty Space Marines directly into the thick of an assault. The exact provenance of the Storm Eagle is unknown, but it bears clear similarities to the Stormravens employed by the Blood Angels and Grey Knights. Certain sources place the principal manufacture of the Storm Eagle upon Tigrus and Anvilus IX, both primary-grade Forge Worlds that suffered catastrophic damage during the Horus Heresy.

In recent decades the number of Storm Eagles in active service has begun to increase, especially amongst those Chapters known to have favourable relations with the Adeptus Mechanicus. This has lead some observers to believe that production has been restored at an as yet unknown location.

Designed by Stuart Williamson, the Storm Eagle is a complete resin and plastic kit which is packed with some incredible design work, including a fully detailed interior. It will be available to purchase in limited numbers at the Forge World Open Day on Sunday 1st April, in advance of its scheduled release date, for £80.

**Nrljm**

Damn you forgeworld, first those pretty Minotaur special characters then the termies now this sexy predator?? Must buy 3 for my pre heresy army!!! Me want!! me want!!

**BrassScorpion**

pretre wrote:Forge World Newsflash...

Congrats, you and I posted the only useful information on this page, the rest is useless meme and pointless drivel. Now I remember why I hardly post here any longer.

Forge World has now sent newsletters, posted on their website, and repeatedly posted on a popular social networking site multiple times that the Storm Eagle is an actual new release. They have release dates for it and pricing information. GW and their subidiaries are a business and when they have joked in the past it's been pretty obvious (unless you are extremely gullible or a twit). If the rest of this thread is going to consist of further speculation that it's an "April Fools" and other useless junk like meme photos, clearly this thread is spent of any meaningful conversation even faster than usual around here. Time for another long break.

Today's newsflash is away...
We can officially announce that the Storm Eagle Assault Gunship will be on sale in very limited numbers on Sunday, in advance of its scheduled release.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Home/Space_Marine_Stormeagle.html

**Kid_Kyoto**

IMPORTANT REMINDER - Different people like different things, that's no reason not to be polite.

**davethepak**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
davethepak wrote:
ph34r wrote:Yeah, but these wings are different. This is the first time they have done the wings flat across the top. In the past they have been generally highly angled tabs more akin to fins, or for the thunderhawk straight wings. This one has a very Tau-like flying wing type thing going on in the back.

I could have just been easiest for them to make the kit that way, but then again who knows.

Here is the real interesting part; I wonder if this was inpsired by the CH kit?
(which looks awesome in person, btw)

I doubt it. The CH kit is a mediocre extension to the existing kit, while this is a near total redesign of the rear and to a lesser degree, sides of the kit.

Oh, I agree they are very different. I apologize for not being more clear in my statement.

I was wondering if there was a conversation like this sometime...

Designer 1: "Hey guys, lets make a marine flyer...we have a lot of options"
Designer 2: "Yeah, we learned a lot from making the thunderhawk, and assault ram..."
Designer 3: "Hey, how about we just make a modification kit for the storm raven?"
Designer 1 & 2: "what? that flying brick? Have you seen how many people hate it?"
Designer 3: "I am not saying it should look like a storm raven, but we could use it as a base, and mod it".
Designer 2: "That would look terrible..."
Designer 1: "Wait, a second, I saw a conversion kit that actually made it look good, by extending it..."
Designer 2: "Yeah, I think we can pull it off, and make a even more extensive mod...dude your'a genius"
Designer 1: "thanks!"
Designer 3: facepalm....

Who knows? Regardless, depending on how bad the rules suck, I may consider getting one...but at 80 pounds...maybe not.