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Actually, Training is the execepton to the rule.

Source:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/958942-mount-and-blade-warband/58836129

I thought training was a party skill, and it's actually personal (only skimmed it on the wiki), so just disregard my last message anyway.

The Saga Continues (Day 270 something)

Khergit was down to it's last caste last night with the Vaeggies and Sultinate beating the piss outta them, so I built up a force again (for like the 32nd time) waited for their 10 lords camping it to take someone on... and sieged their 168 mostly T2-3 vs my 94 mostly T4-5 and some 6. Unsuprisingly I got whomped on, but I knew that would happen. However I knew that I would kill them when they merely injured most of mine and it work mwhahaha!

However, while i rested outside of the Castle the Mountain bandit crew got me! I almost threw my ****in mouse across the room. Infuriated is a slight understatement. However I escaped a mere 3 hours after getting captured and still had 3 companions on me. I ran back up to the castle to check it out and they were down to 45/50... I was never goign to have this chance again!

I ran over to Tulga and recruited mercs. I ran to all nearby villages... I'm up to 30, but most ly T1... that won't work. I stopped off an another city but I'm out of money *sobs*. I stop at another tournament.... a tournament is going on! dumbfounded I join the tournament and I have never fought so hard before and won about 4k gold. I upgrade everyone and grab more mercs. I head back to the castle and they are now at 80 to my 42... Gahhhhhh. However just then I see a bandit crew wit ha PILE of prisoners... it's the SOB that ganked me outside the caste!!

I beat his ever living face in and take back all my men. It's funny how good it felt to have them back even though they are just numbers. With my 96 strong i head back to the castle that is now at 140.... however nearly 60 are T1-2. I say eff it and go in head long. After a blood fight and a LOT of kills by me personally (I was an angry man in that battle) I took the castle and started my kingdom!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssss,, *cough cough*

With the only faction that I pissed off being the now territory-less Khergit there was no real threat of retaliation. Better yet they immediately requestsed a truce meaning I have no threat of attack for the moment! I immediately sent out diplomacy to the Saltinate and the Veggies who neighbor me to buy time for me to stablize and build up.

I start on my new journey as the King of Dragonia!

Just using this as my place to vent the awesome since my wife rolls her eyes the second I talks about the game. It's official, she hates Mount and Blade waaay more then the hobby lol.

Approx Day 290-300 (in game)
Having secured Distar castle and the fief of Bulugur I was now on a roll for the first time as my own Kingdom, which is extremely hard to do starting out Neutral and 10x harder with the Floris Mod on. I sent out all my companions to the different nations to send warm greetings and surprisingly they all recognized my right to rule and sent back warm welcomings. I quickly realized that this was because everyone and their mother was at war and didn't want to have to focus on another front. For me, this was fine because I was in no position to take on a nation 10x my size, so I set out to make some gold and recruit more soldiers.
I garrisoned all my non-Calvary men at the Castle, so that I wouldn't get slowed down and did a few trips aroudn the nation trading goods to get some cash flow going. Every now and then I stopped off at a village an helped out peasants with bandit issues, but never excepted money from them as thanks because they need it more. Once I got back to my castle I decided it was time to go bandit hunting after seeing a bandit group imprison some of my fief's villagers. With my all Cav force I was fast enough to run down any bandits I came across using no real tactics except for charging in headlong and knocking them unconscious with maces.

Fast forward a few day of bandit hunting and I suddenly realize that I had amassed a LARGE amount of wealth from selling bandits off. I would imprison about 40 bandits at a time and drop them off for a solid 4-5k gold just to turn around and do it again a few hours later. I made some enemies though because ambushes of bandits became common when going into town. With my new found fortune I plan to improve my castle and land while investing in the local cities to get a better cash flow going.

The next step however is to take some swings at another faction and spread my kingdom… however in doing so I'm poking a bees nest, and my stick isn't that long.

That sounds epic - do keep reporting, it's an enjoyable read.

I hate you all... mount and blade and mount and blade warband both bought... which is the more fun one to play first?

You really only need Warband, I think. It's basically M&B+1

... oh, and Napoleonic Wars. Even if you only do multiplayer occasionally, it's just incredibly fun.

"Vive la patrie!" "For King and country!"

I highly suggest playing M&B:Warband for a little bit to get use to the mechnics then downloading the Floris Mod. Expands the game significantly *cough* and makes it a lot harder *cough*.

Duce wrote:I hate you all... mount and blade and mount and blade warband both bought... which is the more fun one to play first?

No you love us all, once you realise what a good buy you just had.
That is when you get off your game long enough to revisit the forums.

Day 306 (in game)

Having built up a good amount of wealth I stopped off at my castle and advised my men to construct some improvements at both the village and the castle so that I could receive word if there were any attackers. I then headed to the two nearest cities and invested in an iron works, a bakery, and bought some land to rent out. Before I heads out again I headed back to the castle to toss the rest of my gold in my coffers of which I still had about 15,000 . As I was about to leave I noticed I had a visitor... it was a Lord of another land asking to join my forces. Rather surprised I immediately took him up on his offer to join, but quickly realized he was rather pompous and had the never to insult me. However as the old saying goes, "beggars can't be choosers" and I since I don't have any Lords to further my army at the moment I let it slide.

I set off to do some more bandit hunting, but quickly was distracted by pursuing my love Afrid formerly of the Nords, but now of the Sultinate. She was in love with me, however her brother won’t not agree do my former status of a mercenary with no land. Now that I was a king his arse is singing a different tune lol. He needed to know me better, so I assisted him with some tasks that included hunting down a criminal, lending him some men, and delivering a few letter (how demining for a king). The seal on the deal however was saving his army from a horde of bandits which at this point was a push over form my army of 250. Grateful for the help he betrothed his sister to me and we are soon to be wed.
Meanwhile I continued to hunt bandits with my 250 slave hunters, which for those that don’t know are men wielding maces and hammers on armored horses. The move fast, hit hard, and instead of killing the enemy not the unconscious so that I may sell the enemy off to a ransom broker for quick gold. At this point I have very high level slave hunters of which several at mounted on elephants for extra tramping of my foes. I however quickly realize that my incoming is getting sapped fast from the number of soldiers I’m holding. With over 380 men in my castle and another 250 in my personal force, money is flying out the window. So I begin to prepare my force for war

Heading back to the castle I send envoys out to the nation of Vaegirs demanding tribute with the threat of war. I knew this wouldn’t go well as they are 10x my size, but I hoped to provoke a fight on their side as I didn’t want to seem like a warmonger just declaring war out of the blue. They however blew me off, no shocker there. As I headed out to scout their castle I saw my first Lord’s army in the field for the first time… he had 380 men and 112 prisoners…. Holy ****. Apparently I had recruited the Chuck Norris of the land as this guy could maintain an army level most Kings can’t. Finding this out I declared war on the Vaegirs as our combined army trumped that of most full forces haha!

Right after I declared war the first enemy army headed into my region sitting at about 100 men. I knew they were out to loot my village, so I gave them no time to achieve their plans. My 250 cavalry charged in as the army attempted to retreat at my very sight… 1 of my men were killed and 100 (well the 40 I could hold) of his were now in shackles. To say my confidence shot through the roof would be an understatement. I declared a campaign and with a combined for of over 630 men the first castle fell like a house of cards. 2 enemy armies showed up to assist in defense, but at the site of our force turned tail and ran. The castle was awarded to “chuck”, the land was award to one of my companions making him a new lord, and I declared chuck as my new Marshall to lead the armies. He more than proved his value and I want to make sure he knows it.

With 2 Castles, 2 Fiefs, and a combined total of over 1200 men I feel confident in my fledgling war with the Vaegirs. We’ll see how I fair against the big boys…


(wow didn't realize how much I wrote. Let me know if this annoys anyone posting this here)

Diary entry 1.

Yesterday, after I consolidated my gains made in manpower, took out some more of the barony of Swabia. The Rhodoks gave me backup, and I rescued about 3 of their princes from border clashes. Ran rampant through Swabia, looting and fighting almost at will. Picked up a half-decent plate suit and heavy bastard sword.

Today - Conquered my first castle, Took it after swabia lost out in a big battle, then whooped the reinforcements there. Stationed 25 men and a few knights there, and now the swabians hate me. The nords and Vangians took Suno, and the adjoining provinces, and I took one of the castles up north and then besieged their home town after reinforcing hugely. Assaulted the castle, with only a few losses.

The big towns are fun to kill!

My relationship with the lords of Khergits is great now, they give me castles whenever I ask for them now.

I own a town and two castles, with a personal army of about 50/50 knights and sword sisters and 100 men in each castle/town.

I feel like it's a good time to start my own kingdom but my only issue is that i've spent a lot of time fighting the lords of other kingdoms and they all hate me now. :( I can't see many lords becoming my vassals in the future at this rate. Meh, i'm just gonna stay with the Khergits for a while longer and try and milk another town or castle out of them.

I've got Lord Durdosh and Klindi, Durdosh is a bit of a prat who is a coward, and Klindi is actually a good worker for a change.


I'm now working on cementing my relationship with the rhodoks, and killing off the Sultanate. The Sultanate keep sending raiding partys north, but they do nothing now except annoy my villages.

Orlanth wrote:

Duce wrote:I hate you all... mount and blade and mount and blade warband both bought... which is the more fun one to play first?

No you love us all, once you realise what a good buy you just had.
That is when you get off your game long enough to revisit the forums.

I hate you all cos I know i'll enjoy the game...

And after installing it on friday when got home from work I began playing. I'll admit i didnt bother with the tutorial and did 6-7 restarts at various points once I learnt the systems and after a few unlucky combats right off the bat when bantits caught me walking out of town.

But now i'm siting on a small 35ish man force but most are upgraded, have won a fair few tourneys (I hate the horse ones and especially the ranged weapons... if i can i always swap out for a downed opponents sword).

Now hoping for a chance to dedicate some wins to one fo the nord ladies but haven't had a chance yet as she's missed the last feast... its ok though I have another one (testing what happened when you dediate wins and such... though prefer the other one as her brother likes me a little).

Whats a good time to begin buying the top end armour? also how much should i save and manpower wise should I have for joining a faction as a merc?

Joining a faction as a merc you can do at really any manpower. You just hang out on their campaign and join in the fighting. On the investing in armor, wait for a while. You'll get plenty of goodies from loot over time and buy armor is reaaally pricey.

On my game i'm now up to about 10 lords and other have left the factions to join me. I captured tulga, bayree (spelling) and the city north of tulga. I have about 4 castle and was doing fantastic... Until last night. Appearently the saltinate got a little jealous of my riches and declared war out of the blue. This wouldn't have been an issue except I had just lost a painful battle where I got too ballsie. With my lords having lost a large portion of their force I released the campaign so they could rebuild... And then a seige hit Tulga, my captial. Out of the blue 1000+ soldier were at my front door. I had 300 garrisoned and 250 on me, but when I called for reinforcement only 2 showed up with 90 per. We waited a bit for more and while waiting south of tulga... the effing badit horde showed up. I ran for it but my 2 lords we too slow and were obliterated.

Facing a fight of about 600 vs 1000+ I clicked bargining with the attackers, but I didn't read what was going on.... So tied at this point. I saw they wanted 10000 gold so I figured if I keep tulga that is cheap. No no, that was for me leaving safely. Tulga was insantly theirs and 300 soldiers went poof. Infuriated I went to bed. 600 vs 1000 in a fortifed portision with high level troops I may have stood a chance.... Sooooooo pissed.

Ouch!

That is what happens when not listening during negotiations.

From what it sounds like you still have a mighty realm to fall back on, though, so get an army and take that city back! Throw some screenshots from the siege into this thread while you're at it.

Haha I'll see if I can get fraps to work. With the Floris mod the sieges are rather epic. The MAJOR issue is I didn't kill of any of the soldiers that were attacking the city so there is now a 1k campaign of guys at the city and I'm waaay short of nubmers to deal with that. The fight at the capital would have killed a huge chunk of those numbers effectively neutering the pack, so I'm in a dangerous position.

I'll have to get everyone to rally if I except to hold out which so far my damn lords aren't playing ball.

I don't think you need fraps - just press Print to shovel an image into your cache, you can then paste it into Paint and save it.

Of course, fraps is a little more luxurious as it allows you to capture multiple shots instead of having to tab out of the game again and again just to save them individually (as you can always only have *one* shot cached, and pressing Print again will simply override the last).

BlueDagger how have you got an army of 250 already, is it something in the Floris Mod or do you have crazy high leadership and charisma?

Piles of reknown, about 15 charisma, 5 leadership, 1 city, 1 castle, 1 fief, and being a king.

I think the King alone is +100

The sultan that attacked me had 600 troops alone ><


Keep in mind also that I'm on day like 430

Erm, you're actually on day 43000... It's 2024, we're in 9th edition 40k, and Eldar have been the top codex for the past 2 editions...

And you totally believed that because it is really that easy to lose yourself in M&B

Sadly that would not shock me in the slightest.. I'm hopefully goign to use my rage over losing Tulga to not play for a few days and get other things done lol. I kid you not, I was so ticked off I couldn't sleep for like 45mins. I got off the game at 1:15am and I get up for work at 6:30, so I'm running on 4.5 hours of sleep.

As a 30yo guy with 3 kids, but body can't handle that kinda crap anymore lol. Safe to say my workday has been rather unproductive.

PS: On a completely separate note, slaver chief (top tier manhunters) in Floris are board line cheating. They are mounted on elephants which have a charge of like 250 dmg. They literally tramp foot troops like they were walking on water ballons. I usually roll with about:

25 slaver chief
65 slaver crusher
85 slave hunter
50 slave driver
25 man hunters

I'm on like day 1100, but i've spent lots of time faffing around not doing much or getting owned.

Holy crap, 1100? I rarely "wait" or camp since time is money and with me having upward of 293 high teir troops, I'm looking at 7300 gold per 2 weeks.

I've had a few big setbacks along the way like loosing all my troops and getting captured by enemy lords. Also stuff like ruining my relationship with the khergit from stealing from their villages during my merc days means I had to spend ages doing lots of gakky quests.

Well now i've captured a castle and i'm pretty sure it's going to be awarded to someone else so I can start my own kingdom. I've got two castles and a town with 100+ top/mid tier troops stocked in them, aswell as an army of knights which is easily replaceable due to high trainer skill.

I don't think you can really loose on the open field with over 100 knights and sword sisters.

lol, play Floris mod. The expanded troops tree adds so many options that there isn't really just "upgrade all to X". Well.. except for manhunters

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/02/naval-gazing-caribbean/#more-114297

Mount and Blade, with added pirates.

So played more last night, and wow my character's story has changed... started the night as a small 35 man merc party mix of nord troops and some manhunters with upgrades with a few random others.

went and signed up to the nord faction after finding out the lady I wanted to woo wouldn't want me as a merc... then I noticed a nord castle under siege, the armies battered each other and i stepped in and swooped on the garrison and took the castle and requested it as mine, then before it was accepted they retook it form me with a 120ish force, (I fled out of it just before). same thing happens the nords batter them and are battered back, i jump in capturing the garrison and requesting it again and then help out the king in a fight.

Get the castle (yay) though he gave the nearby towen merlen (sp?) to anothe rlord which made me huff, i wanted the town as it was really close to the caste.

anyways i finally found the jarl for the lady i'm chasing, got talking to him and he needed more trust in me, 7 carls given to him later (part of a quest from him to get him some) i'm allowed to talk to his daughter and begin courtng.

meanwhile I garison all my troops to make sure the castle is semi safe, recruit some more and begin leveling them and winning 2 tourneys for cash.

All in all a really action packed night and it has really shifted my character's path.

i'ver about 44k gold and wondering if i should keep that or spend it on getting the top armour and more men.

Also how do I invest in villages and towns?

In the native game without and addons you can go into cities and take to the Guild master to open a business in the city. Without the Floris mod you can't buy land. You can spend that money on upgrades for your castle, but you have to own a town to upgrade it.

Upgrade castle -> invest in 2-3 cities -> look for some new armor/weapons, but don't go top teir on armor (not worth the cost) -> go on a recruiting spree from town to town

I finally started my own kingdom after not having a castle awarded to me and straight away FIVE lords became my vassals. Swadia and Vargaei have declared war on me straight away and i'm already at war with the Khergits. I reckon peace can be made easily with Khergits as I have 40 relationship with their king.

The problem is that due to massive amounts of burning, pillaging and beating up the lords of the other nation over the last thouand days means I have 50- relationship with Nords, Surrands and Swadians. :(