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The core pledge extras are still looking vary sparse alright compare that to Zc:I and there's very little



Unless it picks up in the last 48 I'll probably drop to $1 I'm more interested in getting the SW stuff and well I actually have most of it from the limited resin run. The ROOKS are retail anyway. There are 1033 $1 backers 24% of all backers

I went ahead and backed it for the Z:I crossover stuff. I was and am a huge fan of Sedition Wars, so being able to use the ROOKS in Z:I was the tipping point. I don’t have much interest in the actual game...I’m viewing it more as a $150 expansion set for another game.

 Sacredroach wrote:
I don’t have much interest in the actual game...I’m viewing it more as a $150 expansion set for another game.

Nice!

It's funny that, at first, I was thinking "wow, $150 is a lot to pay for an expansion!"

Then I remembered how much I've already sunk into Kingdom Death Expansions, and the fact that I'm likely to order even more come the Black Friday sale.

Then I was like "eh, amateur."

Followed by "OMG, I've spent a lot..."

How many stages are there in hobby addiction denial?

Heh...Kingdom Death. I was all in the first time, and all in the second time. Add in each new release since then and my KD collection is vast. As mostly a wargamer (Darklands and HH primarily) I don’t think much about the costs of minis...just game packages. And I still think my Mine Cart Pledge was one of the best deals I’ve ever gotten off KS...next to KD of course.

 Ghool wrote:
Is it just me or has this campaign been puttering along at a snails pace compared to most CMON campaigns?

Several sf (and two dungeoncrawler) KS were and are scheduled in October and November. I think at least three are/were horror-sf. Additionally, BF sales have already started, OLGS and otherwise.

Reichbusters starts in ten days!

I guess you've also got to consider that this is a re-print of an existing game,

some potential backers will already have it

those that are more into the game and not the minis may well prefer to pick up the old version cheap when this new once hits retail and existing owners not on KS decide to upgrade (or even now if people are selling to buy this)

and general fatigue for SF after ZC:I, (and Starcadia Quest)

I also wonder if the licence is factor? more people to pay = less money to spend on free stuff for backers

Hmmm surprised they held back the alternate sculpt goals until the end needs more bosses at this stage





and another expansion SG no prices for guessing the inspiration pity it's expansion only as it one of the more interesting designs.

I think that this one will get some form of complain in the same way the other way too similar miniatures from ZCI got.

I wonder if we'll see a "Chinese backers just unlocked x/ retailers got you guys y" type deal for stretches they wanted to hit but didn't manage.

It's happened in the last few campaigns. Wouldn't surprise me now. Really not liking this pattern of fluffing up expansions instead of the main campaign.

The final offerings still seem a bit lackluster. Not a single mega boss in sight either...

I dropped my pledge to a dollar. It's possible they'll slam enough great freebies into the main pledge by the end...but not likely. I thought Zombiecide Invader was going to be the nadir of CMON big boardgame campaigns, but boy was I wrong.

If I'm going to throw my money at a shady company's cynical attempt to manipulate my fear of missing out and lust for minis-per-dollar, from now one I'll go with Archon.*



* I recently played Vanguard of War with Highlord, Barzam and their cousin; the diversity and quality of the sculpts and exclusives were far superior to anything SmithCMON has released.

The main box has gotten stretch goals every $30K through the whole kickstarter. That hasn't changed. (well there was one SG at 25K and the next one at 35K, but then it settled down at 30K again)

The expansion box stretch goals are inserted between the main box stretch goal, but not a single main box SG has been replaced by expansion box SG.

Those expansion box SGs are put in to make the add on more attractive offer. You get more for your money. This is bad... somehow?

It's bad because it makes the main deal look less attractive and the campaign feel more frustrating than exciting. CMON is usually on top of both of those factors, and yet here they aren't.

It's almost as if CMON wants people to buy the expansions too...


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Here's a few more SGs reached and few new ones posted (all of them for the base box for those who are counting)


3D tokens for the aliens spawn points


Not-Arnie



3D tokens for watchtowers (new rule)


Not sure if this is not-Milla or not-Carrie-Anne, maybe mix of both?

And it's finished.

Last SG was an empty box (that lots of people were clamouring for)



The Chinese backers got us one more SG. Not-Snake Not-Plissken.


Also, we didn't reach the social SG, but CMON gave us the dice bag anyway.

Yes, the empty box is highly important, with most early CMON kickstarters there are a ton of miniatures and stuff one needs to find boxes to fit them in.

The empty box to fit the extra stuff in is highly sought after mostly because of the practicality it offers.

I'm not complaining. I would have been fine to store my figures in the pizza box, but real box is nice too.

Well the pledge manager is up and the shipping costs are a shock to most of the backers it seems...

CMON need to start putting realistic shipping estimates on their KS but I know they won't because if they advertise the actual cost up front people won't back. If you've already committed $100+ up front your probably less likely to look for refund now.

I guess they will be getting $1 from me the $40 shipping on the $100 pledge is to pricey for my liking, adding the Zc:I cards adds another $5 that's some heavy card stock they are using. From now on it's $1 in and see what the shipping cost is before committing further.

They have not put an official update for some reason, but admitted in the comments section the store calculations were bugged and was fixed today, people may try again to see if their shipping costs are fixed.

I had already completed my PM. I opened it again and then closed it. Got a bit over $6 lower shipping quote (i.e. I would have gotten some money back to my PayPal account). I added the alien allies add on back instead.

So, if you have already completed your pledge, re-open it and go through the PM again. You propably get some refund money.


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 DaveC wrote:
I guess they will be getting $1 from me the $40 shipping on the $100 pledge is to pricey for my liking, adding the Zc:I cards adds another $5 that's some heavy card stock they are using. From now on it's $1 in and see what the shipping cost is before committing further.

The cross-over back contain regular cards AND some hero cards for PE, which, I think, are thick cardboard instead of normal cardstock. So the add on pack might actually weigh a bit more than if it was just a pack of regular cards. Anyway, the shipping costs seemed to have been wrong with this pack and are now fixed to a lower amount?

 Col Hammer wrote:
I had already completed my PM. I opened it again and then closed it. Got a bit over $6 lower shipping quote (i.e. I would have gotten some money back to my PayPal account). I added the alien allies add on back instead.

So, if you have already completed your pledge, re-open it and go through the PM again. You propably get some refund money.


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 DaveC wrote:
I guess they will be getting $1 from me the $40 shipping on the $100 pledge is to pricey for my liking, adding the Zc:I cards adds another $5 that's some heavy card stock they are using. From now on it's $1 in and see what the shipping cost is before committing further.

The cross-over back contain regular cards AND some hero cards for PE, which, I think, are thick cardboard instead of normal cardstock. So the add on pack might actually weigh a bit more than if it was just a pack of regular cards. Anyway, the shipping costs seemed to have been wrong with this pack and are now fixed to a lower amount?

Zc:I cards shipping is now 99 cent. I wonder how many paid the higher shipping rates I doubt they will get refunded unless they contact CMON about it. Does the PM do refunds or do you just end up with credit to use on more product?