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There’s a Dark Horse comic featuring a Predator vs an African Hunter. I don’t want to say Zulu, as I’m one for being accurate, and as it’s wordless I can’t say for sure.
But it’s pretty cool, and rather reminiscent of Prey.
Seems the creative team are having talks about doing more.
Whilst I’m far from convinced the franchise could stand up to a frenetic release schedule, I’d be good with one every few years, provided they’ve got some good ideas for them.
Wonder if the House of Mouse might green light these dudes having another stab at Alien vs Predator. That franchise within a franchise absolutely has legs (I’ll refer again to Dark Horse Comics), they just need to marry narrative balls to the top of those legs. Do it as a latter day sequel/reboot by all means. Not Very Good as the original two were they had their early 2000’s charms, and I really liked tying it into Wayland Utani. And you know…you know what….I’m gonna say it. I’m gonna say it and you can’t stop me…..
The two AvP films are still better, more interesting and more coherent prequels to Alien than Prometheus and Alien Covenant
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True, but the two AvP films are still more interesting origin stories of how The Company became aware of the Xenomorph, and why they wanted some pet ones.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And I’ll never get over the scientists in Prometheus doing the equivalent of this, with similar results.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Can we also acknowledge some of the clever wrong footing and Chekhov’s gunning we see in Prey?
First there’s the game trap. I was expecting that to feature in the Big Takedown. But it Chekhov’s Guns us in a different way.
Then there’s the mud pit. I’m sure we all saw how that was going, right? Wrong!
The healing herbs? I was half expecting some kind of Fern Gully type eco stuff from them, such as Naru helping the Predator to turn it loose on the voyageur (thanks, wiki, for giving me that term!)…but…..nope! And it’s quite late on in the runtime we learn how they aid healing (well, mostly Not Dying) and see it start to come together.
Take them tropes, and do a polite rug pull, with none of them being a Gotcha as such. They played us, but didn’t take us for idiots.
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SamusDrake wrote: I like the idea of Prey because when I was a teenager - walking home from school, in the mid-90s - I day dreamed about an African tribe stalked by a Predator, and thought it would make a good film. We enjoyed a bit of Zulu and Predator back then!
I gak you not I'm pretty sure there's a comic for this.
I'd call the Darkhorse comics run in the late 80s through the 90s the highwater mark of the Predator franchise. It was all downhill from there (until Prey came along and managed to not be a steaming turd, seriously challenge apparently). Many of these comics are great and a lot of them present interesting scenarios.
Just finished it. While I didn't like it as much as the internet did, I also didn't think it was bad. I'd give it a solid 7. Hard agree on the over-choreographed fights, whoever mentioned that. Naru was a great character I cheered for throughout the whole movie. Definitely the best Predator since the original, but I think the OG is still the superior film.
Anyone who is a Predator fan should definitely give it a shot.
Having digested the movie a little more since first watching it, I think that although I love the original Predator movie, I reckon I prefer Comanche kicking ass to Jungle Dudes. By a hairs breadth. Two very different movies of course but I enjoy the premise that bit more. The comparative scenes where Naru and the Predator are mirrored were a great narrative thread. The overarching story, where Naru completes her Kuhtaamia and battles to be the Hunter rather than the Hunted was a unique way of "humanising" the alien Predator society. Similar aspects presented throughout the film in a different light. It's just that Predators are a little more spectacular
If this had been the first Predator movie I would have been blown away by it. Would this film have been made at the time? Probably not and certainly not in this style. The themes of Hunter and Hunted, survival and sport certainly would have. There are a lot of moments in Prey that rely on you having seen the others to keep you following visual cues and story progression. The mud and the herbs and the traps, as MDG points out, throw you for a loop.
For a franchise that has had a very few ups and a lot of downs, I think this deserves the top spot.
For the record the first time we saw the mud I knew where that was going. I identified it more as the quicksand than a cover. Also when they were carrying the wounded dude she’d herbed and talked about how cold he was I figured that was our camo.
I will say I didn’t quite care for her just standing in the open and the Pred walking right past her. Arnie had the good sense to push up against trees and stuff to blend in. Pred had already seen one cold body come alive, you think they’d pay slight attention to the one standing up by itself.
I know I’m nitpicking, but I did super enjoy the movie still. It just makes me see the small wrinkles and want to iron them out.
AduroT wrote: For the record the first time we saw the mud I knew where that was going. I identified it more as the quicksand than a cover. Also when they were carrying the wounded dude she’d herbed and talked about how cold he was I figured that was our camo.
I will say I didn’t quite care for her just standing in the open and the Pred walking right past her. Arnie had the good sense to push up against trees and stuff to blend in. Pred had already seen one cold body come alive, you think they’d pay slight attention to the one standing up by itself.
I know I’m nitpicking, but I did super enjoy the movie still. It just makes me see the small wrinkles and want to iron them out.
This is kind of the thing with movies that don't suck.
When the movie doesn't suck, you cut it some slack for the little shortcuts it takes because you're having fun and you don't care that a few things kind of irk you. This movie did a great job in that it's opening is also really strong, building suspense slowly and intelligently rather than rushing to the parts everyone is there for. The movie sets itself up by convincing you it's doing its best before it dares to suggest you take your pants off.
Prey is a night out with dinner and a movie. Yeah it's got some character ticks, but you had a good time so you're willing to let some eccentricities go to keep having a good time.
Compare to, let's say <insert the sequel trilogy> which is just a musty hotel room that reeks of nostalgia and complacency expecting the audience to do all the work. It's a cheap date, and to top it off you're the bad guy for having standards the date didn't even try to meet. The movie insulted you, so you instantly become more critical of the things you don't like.
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I liked that the bog she got stuck in isn't how she won. They set it up as "This is how she gets covered in mud and avoids the heat vision", except she doesn't do that, cleans the mud off in the next scene, and whilst they go back there she doesn't take a dunk in it for the final fight.
Don’t have a lot to add about this very good movie than what others have said, but if they did do a “Predator vs x” series of films, then stick him in the Teutoburg forest vs the Romans as the reason they lost their legions
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
I want a Predator film that takes place on their homeworld like in an office setting, maybe an accounting firm, where we see them compete for attention with their manager to get picked to go on the next big hunt with him.
It was not a lazy story just to get it on screen. As mentioned, lots of misdirects and occurrences that I did not expect. It had a lot more depth than I was expecting, so kudos to the writers and to the director for not mucking it up. Sure, you had to suspend belief in a few places, but in what fantasy movie do you not?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: TThe two AvP films are still better, more interesting and more coherent prequels to Alien than Prometheus and Alien Covenant
Mad Doc Grotsnik, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
