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It still weirds me out how much stuff is still being done by Privateer Press now that Steamforged owns the rights to everything.

But it shouldn't be very difficult to find a capable partner to print in Australia and Europe and thereby get rid of all those shipping costs. Much easier than finding a good caster was in the old days (and that wasn't really very hard).

That would make a big difference, esp in Australia.

I checked the prices between Miniature Market and combat Company and the US equivalent was $254au compared to $312au (with a 20% discount).

I know a lot of stuff ends up costing more down under anyway. I have always figured most of that was shipping.

They'll need to vet potential local partners, but this should help out the prices.

 odinsgrandson wrote:


They'll need to vet potential local partners, but this should help out the prices.

Can't speak for you great folk "down under" but the game needs to be on shelves in stores for SFG to make progress with the game again. What's been going on with the community seems positive but im not sure if its reached people outside the bubble and store owners who probably dumped PP product, fire sale it years ago and haven't looked back.

Warmachine Wednesday had a nice surprise. Caine, Gunmages, and character warjack facing off with what looks like Kommandos, the new Kapitain Vilkul and a character warjack.

Looks great. Rules for the casters are quite interesting as well. Definitely excited for this one.

Both are new Cadres as well!

Gunmage Hellslingers and SKS-6 Korps

Ooh. Are they in the app yet?

 .Mikes. wrote:
Ooh. Are they in the app yet?

Caine and the Kapitan are, the rest of the Cadres aren't.

Sidenote:
The only reason I even know these new Cadres exist is because they're listed in their profiles!

It looks like we're seeing Cryx once again. Kind of traditional Cryx designs with the newer (riot quest influenced) sensibilities

Yes, we saw those back with Privateer Press. They were the last thing that PP had announced.

They went up for preorder Wednesday via Steamforged, and are available today at GenCon.

Do we know what the unit/Jack/Solo are? They weren't listed in the blog post SFG did about the wave of pre-orders.

Assuming Dysartes is referring to the box that Odinsgrandson posted:

The Command Starter(seen here) is a 30 point list.
-Wraithbinder Nekane(warcaster)[the woman in armor]
-Hades(Character Warjack)
-Master Necrotech Chatterbane(Character Solo)[spindle-legged]
-The Furies(3-characters model unit)[ghosties]


If you were referring to the Cygnar/Khador stuff? They've not commented on it yet.

 Dysartes wrote:
Do we know what the unit/Jack/Solo are? They weren't listed in the blog post SFG did about the wave of pre-orders.

Rules for most of the Cryx stuff is already in the app, including the stuff beyond the starter.

For the Khador vs Cygnar box, the casters have been revealed but the rest has not been revealed.

Thanks Kan - I was referring to the Cryx box.

With a name like Wraithbinder, I honestly thought the Solo was the Warcaster in that box.

That stuff certainly is Cryx, just... more? It's probably not helped by the paint scheme, but I'm not a fan. Too busy.

Of interest to people here may be the fact that the new Khador and Cygnar stuff previewed will be plastic on sprues.

More plastic kits is good for everybody!
There's pics floating around on reddit, but I'm at work right now and can't access it.

I'm more annoyed by the fact that Miniature Market just canceled an order of mine- after it already shipped out. Not sure what to expect when it arrives tomorrow, but I'm going to assume none of the MKIV goodies that I'd ordered.

From the discord (apparently - i got it from reddit):

Its mental how much SFG has improved things around WM/H in the few months since they took over but just doing.......... basic stuff competently.

Plastic terrain elements too, excellent.

A plastic starter will 100% get me interested in this. I'm mates with, and live near, one of the SFG rules devs and he's a MASSIVE WM fanboy so I'm going to get a demo with him ASAP.

Can't say I'm shocked at a SFG dev being a massive WMH fan - back when they were founded, and started developing Guild Ball, they were a bunch of hardcore UK WMH tournament players.

 Dysartes wrote:
Can't say I'm shocked at a SFG dev being a massive WMH fan - back when they were founded, and started developing Guild Ball, they were a bunch of hardcore UK WMH tournament players.

I do believe SFG poached Dave Carl from the Warmachine Development team as well.
This was just as Warmachine Mk2 was completing its existence cycle.
There was talk in my group that he developed the core of Mk3 & bailed before playtesting rolled out.
The first Guild Ball book had quite a few former PP names in it, if I recall correctly.

Almost everything we're seeing was already happening with PP; you just had to be paying attention to their web page or Facebook to know about it. SFG has done a great job putting this stuff out there for people to actually see.

 LunarSol wrote:
Almost everything we're seeing was already happening with PP; you just had to be paying attention to their web page or Facebook to know about it. SFG has done a great job putting this stuff out there for people to actually see.

Yeah that's something we discussed here before that PP didn't seem to be getting the news out far enough. That for some reason they were either black-listed; too small or just not reaching out the right way/to the right people or had the right connections. Basically stuff was happening but if you weren't "in" their system you weren't aware of it. Which I think has been an issue for quite a bit of time as they've shrunk back. It wouldn't surprise me if some of it was just losing staff who used to do those connections and reach out with material.

 Overread wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Almost everything we're seeing was already happening with PP; you just had to be paying attention to their web page or Facebook to know about it. SFG has done a great job putting this stuff out there for people to actually see.

Yeah that's something we discussed here before that PP didn't seem to be getting the news out far enough. That for some reason they were either black-listed; too small or just not reaching out the right way/to the right people or had the right connections. Basically stuff was happening but if you weren't "in" their system you weren't aware of it. Which I think has been an issue for quite a bit of time as they've shrunk back. It wouldn't surprise me if some of it was just losing staff who used to do those connections and reach out with material.

Not wanting to poo poo the SFG love in, but I'm wondering how much of the attention WM is getting now is becasuse of SFG, or just more people paying attention because WM was bought out and the wider perception that "Things are happening".

I suppose right now that doesn't matter, but I do hope the momentum continues. Very excited by what I'm seeing.

It's a combination of things.

Privateer Press, for whatever reason, retracted their preview stuff to just Facebook and its related platforms. I don't share stuff from there, personally, but I did when it was on Twitter as it was easier to share and not likely to suddenly just vanish.

Do we have a Steamforged company thread? Anyway, here's their GenCon sales. Not seeing miniature games discussed on this thread. Up to 65% off, mostly RPGs and boardgames.

https://steamforged.com/pages/sale

Steamforged Games is now bringing back P3 paints (at least in name) initially via Kickstarter

https://steamforged.com/en-gb/blogs/brands/p3-paints-kickstarter-announcement

“P3 paints were originally formulated to stay wet for longer, allowing painters to ‘wet blend’ colours more smoothly on models.

“In the 18 years since the original formula was launched, paint technology has evolved, as have the expectations of painters who’ve now got a lot of options to choose from. In creating the new P3 range, it was essential we preserve the original benefits that gave P3 its stellar reputation, while incorporating modern advancements to bring the paint up-to-date.

“During development of the new P3 formula, we’ve pushed pigment load as far as possible to give rich, vibrant colours that pop, without losing the classic consistency and feel. We’ve also fine-tuned the finish to give a slight satin effect that sets the new P3 range apart from many other modern paint ranges.

"This ensures vibrant colour saturation as well as providing an ideal surface for washing, layering, glazing and, of course, wet-blending, while also providing better protection than matte finishes.

“Once we’d established the baseline behaviour of the formula, we then focused on each paint individually to ensure every colour performs consistently off the brush, including our brand new metallics.

“We've worked closely with our manufacturing partner to take the metallic paints to another level for intense coverage. The new formula delivers serious shine and lets the paints cover easily straight from the pot, but can also be diluted down for maximum control.

“The new P3 range stands on the shoulders of the giants who first conceived it, then goes even higher to deliver a modern, powerful paint with best-in-class behaviour for painters of all experience levels.”

which in one way is good as more choice is always a bonus, but on the other hand they aren't really going to be P3 (maybe they should have called them P4 instead)

Im going to say the dumb thing here.

Why do they need a kickstarter for a product that already exists. I'm looking at 20 odd pots of P3 paints on my shelf right now.

Sunno wrote:
Im going to say the dumb thing here.

Why do they need a kickstarter for a product that already exists. I'm looking at 20 odd pots of P3 paints on my shelf right now.

Most likely to generate enough orders in one go to have enough money to justify doing a massive production batch order to get things going again. Normally a firm would invest into that with profits to generate the order or take out a loan/take on an investor to invest into it. Warmachine isn't in that position right now, but they DO have a lot of the material from before they shut down P3 supplies. So they are part way there and a KS is a great way to get the money to get the product back on shelves; without having to pay out interest to investors/loans and without having to potentially wait years to generate revenue on their own. Esp when revenue generated through sales right now should be going into the core business of getting more models out and so forth.