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**Thommy H**

oldzoggy wrote:
pretre wrote:
4chan was garbage, I see.

cough surprised ?

Also has anyone any reliable idea of how the new henchmen like squads of inq and sisters work ?

Literally two posts above yours.

**Gamgee**

Can't wait for 8th when all the sisters players calm the hell down again with their new plastic crack lol.

**StupidYellow**

There's a single person on 4chan who provides accurate leaks. But they were quiet on the CIA codex.

They basically say 2017 for sisters as far as I remember.

S.Y.

**pretre**

I love Reecius and FLG, but their rumors are horrible as well.there probably isn't any such task force.

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StupidYellow wrote:
There's a single person on 4chan who provides accurate leaks. But they were quiet on the CIA codex.

They basically say 2017 for sisters as far as I remember.

S.Y.

Link or cut and paste?

**Gamgee**

Not only that but I'm fairly certain Sad Pands and or Lady Atia confirmed no 2016 Sisters which does not contradict anything about there never being plastic Sisters in 2017.

People put their damn expectations too high when this is only meant to be physical rules for the current and soon to be outdated 7th edition Sisters rules. I think they even referred to it as just a taste for what is to come.

**JohnnyHell**

Given the Deathwatch and GK bits don't replace their Codex, why should any of this mean anything in your Codex is lost? Just ignore this cash-grab print run and use what you use.

**TheWaaaghPath**

Has Imperial Agents replaced codex Inquisition as well?

**pretre**

TheWaaaghPath wrote:
Has Imperial Agents replaced codex Inquisition as well?

We don't know that it has replaced anything yet.

**Mr Morden**

JohnnyHell wrote:
Given the Deathwatch and GK bits don't replace their Codex, why should any of this mean anything in your Codex is lost? Just ignore this cash-grab print run and use what you use.

The entire Deathwatch Codex was not fully printed in the new book - no one with actual info has said if the AS codex is repalced by the CIA one or not.

**dan2026**

It seems like GW honestly didn't realise how popular the new figure would be.
People want this stuff GW!

**Commisar**

I mean, if you look on the black library website:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/40k-cod-sup/Codex-Inquisition-eBook-_Edition.html
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/40k-cod-sup/Codex-Adepta-Sororitas.html
"The rules in this eBook are also available in Codex: Imperial Agents, fully revised and updated along with new detachments plus rules for adding even more servants of the Emperor to your army." appears on the page there.

The disclaimer does NOT appear on the page for Gray Knights, Deathwatch, Assassins or Legion of the Dammed.

My suspicion would be this is because Assassins and Legion of the Dammed are a straight copy and paste job, so they have not been "revised and updated".

And we know, specifically from Warhammer Community "It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights" :
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

So it looks to me like, yes, the rules for sisters of battle and Inquisition have been "revised and updated" aka replaced.

But if your opponent is fine with you using the older books then why not! Looks like GW is not planning to yank them from the apple store just yet.

(allthough they could do this, and do sometimes do it with old versions of the 40k rules or codex space marines just FYI)

**A Town Called Malus**

People should probably keep an eye on the Sisters digital codex to see if it gets updated to reflect what is in the Agents book.

**Grimmor**

Captain Joystick wrote:
So yeah. I went into the store to pre-order the canoness and drop off a secret Santa package.

The store owner walked up to me with a kind of mirthful Willie Wanka look to him- every day I'd see him I'd answer his 'hello' with an assertive 'sisters when?' and I could tell he was excited to at last be able to say 'now'.

We talked about ordering multiples and he explained they were only allowing one per unique e-mail address, but I was already a step ahead on that... Then when we tried to place the order... it had been sold out.

26 minutes after it went on sale.

Twenty six fething minutes.

He was flabbergasted. He was expecting at least four other diehard sisters players to drop in the store, gloat, and order the model. GW apparently didn't anticipate the model would be so popular, despite being the first new model sisters have gotten in ten years?

Honestly... for me it's still more evidence that GW doesn't understand what it is they have with battle sisters. Like those old cartoon gags where a character professes to like something and the other persistently thinks they're being sarcastic.

It wasn't a complete wash, though. I ordered Space Pope and the Inquisitor model, she will be a fun project for a rainy day; and I stuck around and painted my blood bowl orcs. Those four other sisters players showed up, too. Looking to order and leaving disappointed.

The store owner was positively livid.

Twenty six minutes!

I have a feeling that they did the same thing Sony did back when the PS3 came out. Made way to few and are now shocked that they dont have enough.

GW HQ:"But...but the Special Edition Space Marine didnt sell out, whats going on???"

Players: "Dude you cant walk 3 feet without tripping over a "special" Space Marine. This is the first new model you've given Sisters in 10 years!! How many did you make anyway?"

GW HQ: "........."

Players: "How many??"

Gw HQ: "Only a few hundred......."

Players:

They better do another run of her, cuz i know a fair few people who want one, and we never got a chance to get her.

**ERJAK**

Commisar wrote:
I mean, if you look on the black library website:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/40k-cod-sup/Codex-Inquisition-eBook-_Edition.html
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/40k-cod-sup/Codex-Adepta-Sororitas.html
"The rules in this eBook are also available in Codex: Imperial Agents, fully revised and updated along with new detachments plus rules for adding even more servants of the Emperor to your army." appears on the page there.

The disclaimer does NOT appear on the page for Gray Knights, Deathwatch, Assassins or Legion of the Dammed.

My suspicion would be this is because Assassins and Legion of the Dammed are a straight copy and paste job, so they have not been "revised and updated".

And we know, specifically from Warhammer Community "It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights" :
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

So it looks to me like, yes, the rules for sisters of battle and Inquisition have been "revised and updated" aka replaced.

But if your opponent is fine with you using the older books then why not! Looks like GW is not planning to yank them from the apple store just yet.

(allthough they could do this, and do sometimes do it with old versions of the 40k rules or codex space marines just FYI)

Can we quit the ask your opponent stuff for a while? You could play Sisters using bars of soap and the 2nd ed High Elves codex 'if your opponent agrees'.

When talking about replacing or overwriting rules, only what is still legal in tournaments has any importance, beer and pretzels games you can still do whatever you want.

**BBAP**

Gamgee wrote:
I think they even referred to it as just a taste for what is to come.

Cut & paste rules with a bump for the gak-arse Ecclesiarchy War Conclave?

Grimmor wrote:
GW HQ:"But...but the Special Edition Space Marine didnt sell out, whats going on???"

Players: "Dude you cant walk 3 feet without tripping over a "special" Space Marine. This is the first new model you've given Sisters in 10 years!! How many did you make anyway?"

GW HQ: "........."

Players: "How many??"

Gw HQ: "Only a few hundred......."

Players:

I lol'd.

GW: HQ: "... but there's still Special Edition Space Marines you can buy!"

Players: "..."

**Davor**

DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:Is GW crazy or the ones that buy them? Sometimes i question myself.

It's us. If we were sane we would have left along time ago.

Souleater wrote:
Davor wrote:
. They always seemed to like the old way of doing things. I am sure they would still appreciate it now even with them accepting the electronic age now.

It isn't necessarily that they are old fashioned but that physically sending a letter takes some effort.

It''s easy to dash off an overheated electronic message and hit send.

But actually sitting down to compose and write a letter seems to be a lost art. Then there is the matter of addressing an envelope and getting it, with correct postage to the post box. A series of tasks that would have given even Hercules pause.

So companies do tend to take them more seriously.

As wiser and cooler posters have noted. This isn't the rumoured new Sisters Codex. This is a another book that gives folks another pathway into Sisters. It does not replace Codex Adepta Sorortias.

If you are still upset then write to GW. Be polite ...because I remind you that you haven't lost anything, or been mislead in anyway as far as we know. And we're talking about toy soldiers, here.

The suggestion of stamped self-addressed envelopes is a good one.

Thanks, I got crucified almost suggesting this and saying what you did minus the part where I actually did it. Can't remember if it was on Dakka, another forum or both.

ERJAK wrote:Can we quit the ask your opponent stuff for a while? You could play Sisters using bars of soap and the 2nd ed High Elves codex 'if your opponent agrees'.

When talking about replacing or overwriting rules, only what is still legal in tournaments has any importance, beer and pretzels games you can still do whatever you want.

Ummmm, I tried playing beer and pretzel game and it's amazing how people will not change anything that is not "by the rules". So yes "agree with your opponent" is a must because in a lot of cases you must play their way. So the person you quoted statement is very valid.

**Sabotage!**

I'm going to reserve final judgement until I see the book, but it looks as Inquisition got gutted. It looks like about half the henchmen options went to Sisters (unless this book let's you take units from all the factions contained within interchangeably), and nothing was added. I was hoping for a Storm Trooper/Scion troop choice so I can run a reasonable kill team. Hopefully that rumored Inquisition boxed game is a thing so I can make use of some of my favorite models for the first time since the 5th edition GK book came out.

**Loopstah**

I agree, first impressions this looks like a disaster. We really need someone to leak the actual rules stating how the factions interact in the book and who gets access to which transport options etc.

**ShaneMarsh**

Sabotage! wrote:
I'm going to reserve final judgement until I see the book, but it looks as Inquisition got gutted. It looks like about half the henchmen options went to Sisters (unless this book let's you take units from all the factions contained within interchangeably), and nothing was added. I was hoping for a Storm Trooper/Scion troop choice so I can run a reasonable kill team. Hopefully that rumored Inquisition boxed game is a thing so I can make use of some of my favorite models for the first time since the 5th edition GK book came out.

I think at this point the book can go in one of two ways. If you can use them interchangeably as they are all part of the same faction since they are in the same book, then it still has a lot of really neat stuff to offer. If it doesn't, then in totality with what else we have learned/think we have learned, book is facing an uphill climb to have any real value beyond digital stuff being physical.

**commander dante**

An Inquisition Boxed game would be the PERFECT Release for All Inquisition Type Stuff

Just Imagine Puritans Vs Radicalists!
The Sides:
Puritans (the "Elite" Side)
SoB Squad
An Assassin
Some Henchmen (Scion Type)
Etc

Radicalists (The "More Models" Side)
Arco-Flaggents
Daemonhost
Death Cult Assassins
Some Henchmen (Horde Type)
Jokaero

Puritan Inquisitor will be the Classic Interpretation (=][= Hat, Hellrifle/ Inferno Pistol, Force Sword)
Radicalist Inquisitor will be a Bedraggled Guy (With Crazy hair, DAEMONBLADE and Needle Pistol)

It WOULD BE AWESOME

**adamsouza**

book is facing an uphill climb to have any real value beyond digital stuff being physical.

Firstly, coming from a gaming group that likes to use books instead of tablets, this alone is worth the $40 to get Inquisitors, Sisters, and Assasins in print.

Secondly, without using multiple formations, CADs, etc.. this book is giving us a way to form an eclectic force of Imperial Agents.

Thirdly, this book likely provides additional forces for Kill Teams

New Formations !!!!!

New units !!

**Thommy H**

Sabotage! wrote:
I'm going to reserve final judgement until I see the book, but it looks as Inquisition got gutted. It looks like about half the henchmen options went to Sisters (unless this book let's you take units from all the factions contained within interchangeably), and nothing was added. I was hoping for a Storm Trooper/Scion troop choice so I can run a reasonable kill team. Hopefully that rumored Inquisition boxed game is a thing so I can make use of some of my favorite models for the first time since the 5th edition GK book came out.

The henchmen are presented as indivudual units and there are formations for different factions that allow you to use them together as a single squad. The Inquisition henchmen unit will use entries from throughout the codex for theirs. So the Priest and Psyker use their own datasheets rather than repeat those options. We know already that different Ordos can include GK, DW and SoB in their retinues.

So it's nine different factions, with some methods of mixing them via formations.

**MadCowCrazy**

adamsouza wrote:
book is facing an uphill climb to have any real value beyond digital stuff being physical.

Firstly, coming from a gaming group that likes to use books instead of tablets, this alone is worth the $40 to get Inquisitors, Sisters, and Assasins in print.

Secondly, without using multiple formations, CADs, etc.. this book is giving us a way to form an eclectic force of Imperial Agents.

Thirdly, this book likely provides additional forces for Kill Teams

New Formations !!!!!

New units !!

Citation needed.... do you have the book?
Can you confirm if everything in it retain their own factions meaning nothing in the book can start inside the Valkyries and that you have to ally using the existing Ally rules found in the BRB.

**Pariah-Miniatures**

Just saw this on Facebook, rekt

**StupidYellow**

pretre wrote:
I love Reecius and FLG, but their rumors are horrible as well.there probably isn't any such task force.

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StupidYellow wrote:
There's a single person on 4chan who provides accurate leaks. But they were quiet on the CIA codex.

They basically say 2017 for sisters as far as I remember.

S.Y.

Link or cut and paste?

ill have to dig through the threads or wait for him and get a direct quote.

but I will send it to you when I get it

S.Y.

**Loopstah**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
Just saw this on Facebook, rekt

Well goodbye Celestine then.

**StupidYellow**

Loopstah wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
Just saw this on Facebook, rekt

Well goodbye Celestine then.

She was the nicest figure in the range tbh.

S.Y.

**Bottle**

Got my cannoness! It went out of stock straight away in the UK but came back later. Cannot wait to paint this up!

**ERJAK**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
Just saw this on Facebook, rekt

Feth this to the motherfething moon and back.

**Pariah-Miniatures**

I asked a the same question about the inquisition, waiting on a reply. I suspect it is the same answer. But I find it rather lazy and considering the inquisition can have anything they want it makes little sense that their vehicle of choice is a chimera.. And that they can't even request scions..
GW is clowning hard