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So, Walking Dead is now interfering with the fulfilment of this one then?

I think it's more likely that the lack of Firefight rules is delaying this

 Azazelx wrote:
....which will no doubt get rolled over into post-CNY because unforeseen delays - as all their other HIPS has in recent-ish times.

Better right and late, than early and men at arms?

 DaveC wrote:
I think it's more likely that the lack of Firefight rules is delaying this

If it were just that, they'd give us the rest and say "Firefight maybe whenever" like happened with DBX rules.

Alternative hypothesis: Mantic are actually trying to get Warpath done too fast and are breaking deadlines that weren't realistic anyway, because Ronnie has heard via contacts that something is going to happen to 40k later this year, just like how he had enough of a warning about AoS to rush KoW 2nd into production as soon as possible, and damn the torpedoes.

KoW 2nd still missed some of the proposed deadlines, but they got it out 2 weeks or so after the Stormfront Sigmarine catastrophe, more or less in time to capitalise - albeit with resin delivery issues, rushed book errors, and a further delay for the two new armies - and certainly months ahead of what they originally planned. Rumours about 40k, formations, and all Marines all the time are starting to gather steam...

 NTRabbit wrote:
Alternative hypothesis: Mantic are actually trying to get Warpath done too fast and are breaking deadlines that weren't realistic anyway, because Ronnie has heard via contacts that something is going to happen to 40k later this year, just like how he had enough of a warning about AoS to rush KoW 2nd into production as soon as possible, and damn the torpedoes.

KoW 2nd still missed some of the proposed deadlines, but they got it out 2 weeks or so after the Stormfront Sigmarine catastrophe, more or less in time to capitalise - albeit with resin delivery issues, rushed book errors, and a further delay for the two new armies - and certainly months ahead of what they originally planned. Rumours about 40k, formations, and all Marines all the time are starting to gather steam...

Now I want to make tinfoil Hat marines . It very well could be these reasons, but sooner or later the new CEO of GW will figure out who is Ronnie's drinking buddy and then that will be that.

Mantic has reliable sources for info like that. So they know whats happening and what is just trolling gaming communities. They are close friends with a lot of the people at GW including the design studio.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Mantic has reliable sources for info like that. So they know whats happening and what is just trolling gaming communities. They are close friends with a lot of the people at GW including the design studio.

Pretty much fact. Everyone tries to be Team GW or Team Mantic or Team Warlord like there's some big rivalry and then you see a pic of Jervis, Alessio, Rick, Paul, and John all having a pint over a game of Napoleonics at Alan and Michael's house. There really is no big rivalry and they're all friends that hang out and play games; they just happen to be also run (or be lead designers for) small and large miniatures gaming companies.

There were rumours of round bases and skirmish before the KoW2 KS even launched.

At the time everyone thought it would be a new game rather than a replacement game.

 scarletsquig wrote:
There were rumours of round bases and skirmish before the KoW2 KS even launched.

At the time everyone thought it would be a new game rather than a replacement game.

Well AoS turned out to be just like the bases......pointless ( I guess I could have said just like this post of mine.....pointless)

Exactly, JudgeDoug

I think everyone will be happy to know that I controlled myself on this one! I only got the Enforcer Vehicle battlegroup once, an additional interceptor, then everything else was GCPS! Plus Blaine.

$60 in shipping. I have so much frigging plasic coming though...2 full GCPS groups, mules (ok, resin, w/e), hornets...wow.

 NTRabbit wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
....which will no doubt get rolled over into post-CNY because unforeseen delays - as all their other HIPS has in recent-ish times.

Better right and late, than early and men at arms?

Absolutely. It's still worth pointing out that if they're calling "end of the year" while we're only in early-mid Feb it's unlikely to happen that way.

Serious sale up at Miniature Market for some Deadzone and Dreadball items!

Deadzone:
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ssearch?q=deadzone

Dreadball:
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ssearch?q=dreadball

Xtreme expansion is only $26, for instance (currently at 7 in-stock)

RIP sale

Selling out quickly. If I didn't have bucketloads of stuff already I'd be on it.

R.I.P. sale, huh?

Do I detect an undertone of anger in that title, or in those prices? A great deal for anyone who can act fast enough, definitely. (If you're reading this and didn't know about the sale before, you're already too late. Don't blame me. I didn't buy anything.) But they're basically liquidating Deadzone and Dreadball completely, vowing never to restock either line (that's what they define R.I.P. sale as, products are never coming back.) In the USA we've taken Miniature Market's willingness to stock Mantic and then sell it off cheap for granted - it's happened often enough, after all. But I have to wonder if this is the last straw, and they're cutting ties for good.

I'm starting to wonder if Mantic are in trouble. If Miniature Market is basically exiling them based on poor performance, and their sales are at all representative of the US retail market appetite for Mantic products, it would seem to be a very bad time to be cutting back on kickstarter deals and increasing their product prices across the board.

Unless, perhaps, they're drowning already and don't have a choice?

That's what I'm starting to worry too.

For as good as Dreadball is supposed to sell, or at least the original game, the teams and various add ons all get marked down pretty regularly.

Not that I've bought a whole lot at retail from Mantic- some yes, but not much. It's always nice to at least have options, but with Miniature Market doing an Age of Sigmar to the mini ranges they carry is sad.

Well, The War Store may be getting more of my money in future now that MM have quit stocking GW and seemingly Mantic.

I wonder if the purge will carry on to other ranges?

Well, I was planning to panic buy a necrosphinx today, but Miniature Market swooped in to steal my dollars. Well played.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Well, The War Store may be getting more of my money in future now that MM have quit stocking GW and seemingly Mantic.

I wonder if the purge will carry on to other ranges?

They're purging a LOT of stuff - full list is attached to this post as an excel file! Remember, Miniature Market is the same company that was doing a firesale on Warmachine for a few months at one point in time, and that is obviously a successful product line.

I just posted the Mantic items in this thread so folks could get a good deal - not to start a panic . For instance, they're liquidating KR cases for X-wing in the sale, too... and I just got a KR case in the mail from KR directly yesterday, and it's incredible!

So, I wouldn't take something being a part of the sale as an indication it's a poor product. They've got the excellent Dreamforge Leviathan weapon arms in the sale, too!

My Necrosphinx panic buy is scheduled for next Sunday, so I'm good.

Another Deadzone box at 40 bucks was quite tempting for just the scenery alone.

Then I remebered how much I already have, and how much I still have coming for Infestation, so I held back this time.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Another Deadzone box at 40 bucks was quite tempting for just the scenery alone.

Then I remebered how much I already have, and how much I still have coming for Infestation, so I held back this time.

Exactly my thought process

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Another Deadzone box at 40 bucks was quite tempting for just the scenery alone.

Then I remebered how much I already have, and how much I still have coming for Infestation, so I held back this time.

Exactly my thought process

Me too, my brothers. We won a victory over ourselves this day.

It's nice to know that a shred of fiscal sanity remains in my thought processes, tenuously frayed as it may be.

Mars attack stuff also RIPped, as well as Dust, arcane legion and golem arcana. All games which have been dropped by the manufactures. I think Deadzone got dumped since 2.0 is out/coming out with the Kickstarter and dreadball is doa because I've read places that they have it all fleshed out already.

Also Miniaturemarket just recently was hiring, they are getting into Magic singles online, so they are making space for that set up.

 Vermonter wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if Mantic are in trouble. If Miniature Market is basically exiling them based on poor performance, and their sales are at all representative of the US retail market appetite for Mantic products, it would seem to be a very bad time to be cutting back on kickstarter deals and increasing their product prices across the board.

Unless, perhaps, they're drowning already and don't have a choice?

Pretty long bow to draw when the only source is Miniature Market, well noted for having the most bizarre sale and stocking practises around.

Well, Mantic is pulling all kinds of Shenanigans with surprise price hikes and the TWD Kickstarter. (Kickstopper?). Sure, it's possible Snowball really knocked over the windmill, but after so many disasters under his care, Napoleon is starting to look a bit two legged.

 NTRabbit wrote:

 Vermonter wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if Mantic are in trouble. If Miniature Market is basically exiling them based on poor performance, and their sales are at all representative of the US retail market appetite for Mantic products, it would seem to be a very bad time to be cutting back on kickstarter deals and increasing their product prices across the board.

Unless, perhaps, they're drowning already and don't have a choice?

Pretty long bow to draw when the only source is Miniature Market, well noted for having the most bizarre sale and stocking practises around.

Well, I did qualify what I said with "if," and "perhaps." So consider the bow drawn, but only on a metaphysical level, as one arrow among an infinite sea of arrows, Schroedinger's Cat, Occam's razor, and other concepts science fiction has beaten into uninspired cliches.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
My Necrosphinx panic buy is scheduled for next Sunday, so I'm good.

Another Deadzone box at 40 bucks was quite tempting for just the scenery alone.

Then I remembered how much I already have, and how much I still have coming for Infestation, so I held back this time.

Snap! I also have a mountain of that...

As others have noted, Deadzone is coming out with an updated version. That one certainly makes sense.

I'm curious about Dreadball. That's supposed to be a fun game. But I don't think Mantic has plans to "redo" that one, right? I figured that one is still selling ok...

Yeah, it's gotta be a case of, "everythings released now for dreadball, we've made all the sales we can, dump it."

Which is kinda sad, really, as it IS an excellent game. I call it my "schoolnight game." - If a mate is ever bored on a night during the week, they can come round play some dreadball and it's not a big time / effort investment for us to play a game.