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2011/03/11 07:45:22
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2011/03/11 13:57:12
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Hey was just on Anthony Reynolds blog and saw this.
"Writing the Necrons was fun, though I’d say I probably enjoyed writing about the Dark Eldar in Dark Disciple more. I can’t wait to see what Andy Chambers does with them (you know he’s writing a Dark Eldar novel, yeah?)"
Hey was just on Anthony Reynolds blog and saw this.
"Writing the Necrons was fun, though I’d say I probably enjoyed writing about the Dark Eldar in Dark Disciple more. I can’t wait to see what Andy Chambers does with them (you know he’s writing a Dark Eldar novel, yeah?)"
Have a read of his blog, he mentions it twice, 1st as I quoted above and the 2nd time as below;
"Thanks for the compliments, I’m pleased you liked the books. No plans to write more Dark Eldar at the moment, though I’d definitely be keen to. And as I said above, I’m looking forward to seeing what Mr Chambers does with them. It’s been too long since he’s had a hand in anything 40K related."
Not sure why he would say this if it wasnt true, I couldnt detect any sarcasm in his blog like he was making a joke or that. Have a read and get back to me with what you think.
2011/03/11 17:49:58
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Aaron Dembski-Bowden wrote:I still have an email in my inbox from my editor, asking “Why didn’t you reference X in your novel?”
I also have my reply. It says, quite simply, “Because X sucks, and so does the guy who wrote it.”
That’s show business for you.
Hilarious.
Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack
2011/03/13 15:44:51
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Well I just finished "Blood Gorgons". Well i cant say that is it was bad, I also cant say it was great either. It seems to me lately that everything goes wrong for the story hero until the lat 20 pages then everything goes right and they win. Yes I know you want the hero to win in the end, but dont you want to see some stuff go right for them in the middle also?
"I have traveled through the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out.
2011/03/16 04:00:18
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
I know that I was lamenting the brevy of Empire centric books 3 or 4 pages ago, but I gotta say that I am thoroughly enjoying Robert Earls "Broken Honour". It may be because about 1/4 of it so far(I'm half way through) is from the Beastmen perspective, which is pretty cool for me since I'm a Beastmen fanatic! The Empire characters are pretty cool too, so far.
Not sure if its spoilerish, I'll put the tags on it anyway, but my favorite part is :
Spoiler:
The Beastmen leader flies into a rage upon seeing chariots in his warherd because they are unnatural manufactured constructions, kills the beastmen that made them, then immediately regrets it and tells the chariot crews to take care of them as he'll be using them in the next battle because they are such useful tools.
I think little things like this, written from the beastmens perspective, really hammers home how chaotic and hateful they are of anything involving order or construction.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2011/03/16 08:31:47
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Gadge wrote:So can anyone confirm if Andy Chambers is back working for GW (well for BL anyway).
Yes.
Finished "Battle of the Fang" last night, and it was GREAT. Like as good as your favourite HH novel level of good.
Cool action scenes, characters you cared about and ...
Spoiler:
We get to see Magnus... unleashed, and learn about such things as the Wolf Brothers and are even teased about the whereabouts of a certain Mr. Russ.
I especially liked the way the Mr. Wraight took the existing continuity and then built and added to it, without disregarding any of what we know, and still constructed a kick ass story.
Stands head and sholders above the rest in the series and is easily up there with amongst the best 40k novels.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And in actual BL related news :
At Salute, in London April the 16th, there’ll be a big Black Library presence on the day – according to the Salute website, Nick Kyme, Andy Hoare, Gav Thorpe and Aaron Dembski-Bowden and Chris Wraight will all be there.. presumably with some ncie early copies of books available -- sucha s the winificent "Battle of the Fang".
They're all really sound to chat to in general and well worth speaking to if you get the chance.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2011/03/16 14:03:32
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
reds8n wrote:Finished "Battle of the Fang" last night, and it was GREAT. Like as good as your favourite HH novel level of good.
Cool action scenes, characters you cared about and ...
Spoiler:
We get to see Magnus... unleashed, and learn about such things as the Wolf Brothers and are even teased about the whereabouts of a certain Mr. Russ.
I especially liked the way the Mr. Wraight took the existing continuity and then built and added to it, without disregarding any of what we know, and still constructed a kick ass story.
Stands head and sholders above the rest in the series and is easily up there with amongst the best 40k novels.
This, Red, is GREAT to hear. Seriously, I love the Space Wolves and their fluff and would rather it wasn't butchered and abused etc. so this is great to hear, particularly as you're saying it's as good as the HH novels and better than the rest of the series.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of." - Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now." - Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
2011/03/16 14:32:55
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Awesome about battle of the fang. Bookdepository.com or .co.uk will be getting an order shortly.
And I agree with the sentiment regarding Blood Gorgons - trying to break the narrative mould by having lots of bad stuff happen means that the resolution takes place in about 5 pages, of which 3 is pretty average stuff.
What I don't get is where on earth this series is going. They had something very nice set up in book 1 with the continuation of the war, the mass chaos invasion, the guy stuck on the chaos ship, all of that, and yet we've had Vietnam War in spaaaaaaaaccccceeee, and now a book where every third line contains a reference to Traitor Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines and what they are like and what they do before they eat breakfast and how they like to betray each other? I guess it could be part of some massive arc, but most of it seems to be pushing character development wrapped around a stringy story. Ah well, I'll continue to buy it, and it will continue to go into the 'not read again for a while' section of the bookshelf.
2011/03/16 15:13:40
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
I thought Blood Gorgons was pretty cool, I liked all the crazy background to the chapter. Very distinct and it was interesting to see the interplay and rivalry between renegade marine chapters, and I think it was good to see...err.... "recruitment" by those of faith too.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2011/03/16 15:14:57
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
reds8n wrote: I thought Blood Gorgons was pretty cool, I liked all the crazy background to the chapter. Very distinct and it was interesting to see the interplay and rivalry between renegade marine chapters, and I think it was good to see...err.... "recruitment" by those of faith too.
YMMV of course.
Dont get me wrong I didnt not like the read. It was interesting.
Spoiler:
I would like to know how they rid their Battle Barge of the nurgle rot.
I just think a number of the books lately havent really pushed the envelope plot wise. Meet Hero, Something tragic happens to Hero, Hero vows revenge/get justice. Basicly nothing goes right for Hero until the last chapter. Hero wins in the end.
I understand that this is the basic plot line to .. well almost every book ever writen actually. I guess I cant really describe what Im looking for.. ( <-- Not a good writer am I ). Just feels to me to cookie cutter/stamped out books.
"I have traveled through the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out.
2011/03/21 12:08:41
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
White Scars is a good read, follows on very well from the RT duology, but it's not essential to have read them.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2011/03/21 12:16:19
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
Give me a HH Scars novel already! Seriously, people have issue with almost any legion------but I've never heard anyone say "Man I hate White Scars and Khan". Come on Black Library!
KHHHHHAAAAAANNNNNNNNN
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2011/03/22 07:03:48
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Alpharius wrote:Need some help on the WFB side of things here...
I have Reiksguard, Sword of Vengeance and Sword of Justice.
I also enjoyed the "Sigmar" series...
Should I also pick up: Warrior Priest, Grimblades, Call to Arms, Broken Honour and Iron Company?
Thanks!
Iron Company is okay, Warrior Priest is good, but I'd skip Grimblades and Call to Arms. Broken Honour I haven't read yet, but I really like the authors previous work, so well worth a shot.
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2011/03/22 16:24:43
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
I'm currently slogging through the latest White Scars novel. It's heaps better than the previous, and it's refreshing to see the Tau kicking some ass, but it's just really boring so far....
Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
2011/03/22 16:30:31
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Lint wrote:I'm currently slogging through the latest White Scars novel. It's heaps better than the previous, and it's refreshing to see the Tau kicking some ass, but it's just really boring so far....
it doesn't get much better unfortunately. that book has too many inconsistencies for my tastes (like why a sergeant is the crusade council marine liason instead of a captain) and i preferred the hunt for voldorius more (even with the letdown boss battle at the end).
2011/03/22 17:40:31
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
Lint wrote:I'm currently slogging through the latest White Scars novel. It's heaps better than the previous, and it's refreshing to see the Tau kicking some ass, but it's just really boring so far....
it doesn't get much better unfortunately. that book has too many inconsistencies for my tastes (like why a sergeant is the crusade council marine liason instead of a captain) and i preferred the hunt for voldorius more (even with the letdown boss battle at the end).
Ugh - that is NOT good news, as I thought THE HUNT FOR VOLDORIUS was hella-bad.
And that is even with TWO of my favorite legions being in there!
RG and AL!
Not good at all...
2011/03/22 17:45:37
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
just a general question, is first heretic still the latest HH book, and what is the next book in the series slated to be about... and when is it going to be released?
Technically Prospero Burns is the latest HH-book since it released in May 2011 (First Heretic @ November 2010)? Next one is The Outcast Dead slated for release* in November this year. Unless you count Age of Darkness that's a collection of novellas, to be released in May.
I might've missed something posted earlier in this thread (it's getting quite big) though. I just looked through Black Librarys Coming Soon page.
* Isn't that quite a long break between books in the HH-series?
You most definately do need to count "Age of Darkness" and devout it ASAP.
Spoiler:
The Lion vs Night Haunter, little glimpse of Guilliman and the Ultramarines, find out where Qruze has been/been up to... lots and lots of good stuff.
"Deliverance Lost", Mr. Thorpe's eagerly anticipated RG Horus Heresy novel is after that IIRC. This follows on from his audio book and his short story in the above short story collection....
.... which changes everything !
.. well... has some surprises in it anyway.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2011/03/23 17:09:03
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
reds8n wrote: You most definately do need to count "Age of Darkness" and devout it ASAP.
Spoiler:
The Lion vs Night Haunter, little glimpse of Guilliman and the Ultramarines, find out where Qruze has been/been up to... lots and lots of good stuff.
"Deliverance Lost", Mr. Thorpe's eagerly anticipated RG Horus Heresy novel is after that IIRC. This follows on from his audio book and his short story in the above short story collection....
.... which changes everything !
.. well... has some surprises in it anyway.
Spoiler:
Lion vs. Night Haunter!?! Hold on, gotta go change my pants...
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This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.