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 nintura wrote:

 Galef wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Either way, that red dude is a cool sculpt.

And despite wanting him to be either Yriel or Ahra, I like his backstory too.

#Truth. This is the first new story that GW has produced in years that I'm excited about.

Now what I want to know is someone brought up that craftworld "Altanis" (Spelling?) that looks similar to Ynnari and then that craftworld now gets brought up in the white dwarf as they intervene in Eldrads trial.

Altansar, you mean?

I imagine that nobody wanted to agree with them, but then they remembered that not doing so might annoy Maugan Ra, so they agreed with them.

Speaking of, I wonder if the Phoenix Lords get to do much face-wrecking in this story.

I hope so - especially Karandras!

I've love to get an updated Jes Goodwin version of him...

If his old blade was still cannon I would say it resembles the Eldar style more, but the new one looks more like Necron style. Though the resemblance is only slight.

 Alpharius wrote:
I hope so - especially Karandras!

I've love to get an updated Jes Goodwin version of him...

I'll never look at Krandras the same again. I killed him with a Firewarrior charging in after he spent his round fighting some crisis suits!

Something that's interesting from those white dwarf pics is when the artist is taking about his choice in color palettes for the covers off the gathering Storm books. Abaddon's main color is red, the eldar is blue, then he said the next books color will be gold. Maybe the first loyal primarch returning will be dorn? I don't know, maybe the emperor reborn?

It's either a primarch or maybe something new? Unless that counts as new which I guess it does?

looking at the shaky pics on 4chan it mentions that the Wraithguard/constructs were awakened and no longer needed spiritseers and were fully aware. Not sure if there going to get rules to back it up but the wailing and gnashing of teeth about eldar will go up to 12.

There is someone saying theres a bit of fluff about the wraith units waking themselves up, despite the spiritseers not getting the chance to do it and then fighting with the speed of a living eldar.

Didnt we discuss the golden cover a handful of pages back? Or was that in the 1ksons thread? There's a few theories about it. Dorn, Emperor, the one Blood Angels guy, among a few others.

Yes. I think it's going to be Dante on the cover, and the 'triumverate' box coming will be a Heros of the Astartes or something similar.

(Wild prediction incoming.)

Box contents will be:

Lord Dante

Kaldor Draigo

Third model would possibly be Azrael or some other Lord of War. The other thought was a re-sculpted Emperor's Champion perhaps.

Or, possibly all four. Won't know till more tangible leaks start surfacing.

So far, we've seen a holstered bolt pistol (Or some kind of pistol), resembling the horus heresy era style. We've also seen a psychic hood terminator torso as viewed from behind with some kind of cape or cloth hanging visible on the right side.

We'll see what else comes out over the next few weeks.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Well, given the pictures and stuff we've seen, anything Black Templar would make sense

 Red Corsair wrote:

Look at the alternative, she finds all the swords within the next year. OK, not really the compelling struggle, so now what? Either it was all a waste and it doesn't in fact work or it saves the Eldar and pops Slaanesh creating an even greater issue.

Not necessarily. Just because a goal is reached doesn't make everything for that faction suddenly all fine. Even though prophecy claims Ynnead will save the Eldar, it isn't said how this is accomplished or how long it takes. Abaddon breaking out of the Cadian Gate doesn't suddenly mean the Imperium collapses overnight. The status quo has changed but a new status quo may form. Abaddon may stall at a new obstacle and this effectively becomes the new Cadia, though Abaddon might have gained some territory out of the Eye. Ynnead might wake and the ensuing struggle against Slaanesh might put Chaos on the back foot and maybe the Eldar shift from being dwindling dying race to a more hopeful resurgent race, but Ynnead hasn't won yet and the outcome narratively could still be written as in doubt.

There can be dynamic equilibrium in the 40K factions rather than static equilibrium of a frozen timeline. By dynamic equilibrium, I mean that factions may rise and fall in fortune with wins and losses and maybe the relative balance of power might shift but no faction gets a total "I win" that eliminates other factions.

We ARE talking about an entire universe here. Nothing gets done in a generation lol, let alone a couple years.


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Iracundus wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

Look at the alternative, she finds all the swords within the next year. OK, not really the compelling struggle, so now what? Either it was all a waste and it doesn't in fact work or it saves the Eldar and pops Slaanesh creating an even greater issue.

Not necessarily. Just because a goal is reached doesn't make everything for that faction suddenly all fine. Even though prophecy claims Ynnead will save the Eldar, it isn't said how this is accomplished or how long it takes. Abaddon breaking out of the Cadian Gate doesn't suddenly mean the Imperium collapses overnight. The status quo has changed but a new status quo may form. Abaddon may stall at a new obstacle and this effectively becomes the new Cadia, though Abaddon might have gained some territory out of the Eye. Ynnead might wake and the ensuing struggle against Slaanesh might put Chaos on the back foot and maybe the Eldar shift from being dwindling dying race to a more hopeful resurgent race, but Ynnead hasn't won yet and the outcome narratively could still be written as in doubt.

There can be dynamic equilibrium in the 40K factions rather than static equilibrium of a frozen timeline. By dynamic equilibrium, I mean that factions may rise and fall in fortune with wins and losses and maybe the relative balance of power might shift but no faction gets a total "I win" that eliminates other factions.

Or they actually end Slaanesh like AoS (to get rid of all the adult stuff) and a new chaos god emerges.

 nintura wrote:
We ARE talking about an entire universe here. Nothing gets done in a generation lol, let alone a couple years.


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Spoiler:

Iracundus wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

Look at the alternative, she finds all the swords within the next year. OK, not really the compelling struggle, so now what? Either it was all a waste and it doesn't in fact work or it saves the Eldar and pops Slaanesh creating an even greater issue.

Not necessarily. Just because a goal is reached doesn't make everything for that faction suddenly all fine. Even though prophecy claims Ynnead will save the Eldar, it isn't said how this is accomplished or how long it takes. Abaddon breaking out of the Cadian Gate doesn't suddenly mean the Imperium collapses overnight. The status quo has changed but a new status quo may form. Abaddon may stall at a new obstacle and this effectively becomes the new Cadia, though Abaddon might have gained some territory out of the Eye. Ynnead might wake and the ensuing struggle against Slaanesh might put Chaos on the back foot and maybe the Eldar shift from being dwindling dying race to a more hopeful resurgent race, but Ynnead hasn't won yet and the outcome narratively could still be written as in doubt.

There can be dynamic equilibrium in the 40K factions rather than static equilibrium of a frozen timeline. By dynamic equilibrium, I mean that factions may rise and fall in fortune with wins and losses and maybe the relative balance of power might shift but no faction gets a total "I win" that eliminates other factions.

Or they actually end Slaanesh like AoS (to get rid of all the adult stuff) and a new chaos god emerges.

That would distress me, my plans for my Gwar Inquisitor warband would be foiled!

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Yes. I think it's going to be Dante on the cover, and the 'triumverate' box coming will be a Heros of the Astartes or something similar.

(Wild prediction incoming.)

Box contents will be:

Lord Dante

Kaldor Draigo

Third model would possibly be Azrael or some other Lord of War. The other thought was a re-sculpted Emperor's Champion perhaps.

Or, possibly all four. Won't know till more tangible leaks start surfacing.

So far, we've seen a holstered bolt pistol (Or some kind of pistol), resembling the horus heresy era style. We've also seen a psychic hood terminator torso as viewed from behind with some kind of cape or cloth hanging visible on the right side.

We'll see what else comes out over the next few weeks.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Nah, it will be Celestine to mirror Abby being on the first cover yet containing the imperial triumverate. This will have chaos units with Celestine on the cover.

 Fishborne wrote:
Something that's interesting from those white dwarf pics is when the artist is taking about his choice in color palettes for the covers off the gathering Storm books. Abaddon's main color is red, the eldar is blue, then he said the next books color will be gold. Maybe the first loyal primarch returning will be dorn? I don't know, maybe the emperor reborn?

Between the gold comment, rumor engines of old school guns and terminators and that note in Wrath of Magnus ended with a small note about the high lords of terra fearing the return of a primarch calling on living weapons with the power to unmake a god - seems to point at something custode-ish or sisters of silence-ish. Considering GW tends to plant future releases within their box sets, seems likely at some point we'd see more custodes and sisters of silence.

 nintura wrote:
Or they actually end Slaanesh like AoS (to get rid of all the adult stuff) and a new chaos god emerges.

 Carnikang wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Or they actually end Slaanesh like AoS (to get rid of all the adult stuff) and a new chaos god emerges.

Spoiler:

Don't know how much you keep up with AoS, but Slannesh is basically sleeping off a billion billion elf souls that he ate while Teclis, his bro and Malerion beat him into vomiting a few up here and there. He/she/it is hidden from his followers, who are still VERY active and looking for their Dark God.

Disciples of Tzeentch states that it was Tzeentch’s plotting that led to Slaanesh’s absence.

Oh cool. I've never played AoS before and all I have to go on is what I've read over the years, which people said they killed off Slaanesh and replaced it with either the Horned Rat or something else.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Carnikang wrote:

 nintura wrote:
Or they actually end Slaanesh like AoS (to get rid of all the adult stuff) and a new chaos god emerges.

Spoiler:

Don't know how much you keep up with AoS, but Slannesh is basically sleeping off a billion billion elf souls that he ate while Teclis, his bro and Malerion beat him into vomiting a few up here and there. He/she/it is hidden from his followers, who are still VERY active and looking for their Dark God.

Disciples of Tzeentch states that it was Tzeentch’s plotting that led to Slaanesh’s absence.

Entirely true, he manipulated the battles of the gods so that the elves might find Slaanesh, abandon the fight so that Nagash and SIgmar were left. They then go and kick old multi-gendered in the teeth. At least that's my assumption.

 nintura wrote:
Oh cool. I've never played AoS before and all I have to go on is what I've read over the years, which people said they killed off Slaanesh and replaced it with either the Horned Rat or something else.

It hasn't even been out for "years" yet :p It's easy to just go to wikia and read up if you're interested. http://ageofsigmar.wikia.com/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar_Wikia

 Fishborne wrote:
Something that's interesting from those white dwarf pics is when the artist is taking about his choice in color palettes for the covers off the gathering Storm books. Abaddon's main color is red, the eldar is blue, then he said the next books color will be gold. Maybe the first loyal primarch returning will be dorn? I don't know, maybe the emperor reborn?

Maybe Stormcasts will make their long awaited 40K debut

Mr. CyberPunk wrote:

 Fishborne wrote:
Something that's interesting from those white dwarf pics is when the artist is taking about his choice in color palettes for the covers off the gathering Storm books. Abaddon's main color is red, the eldar is blue, then he said the next books color will be gold. Maybe the first loyal primarch returning will be dorn? I don't know, maybe the emperor reborn?

Maybe Stormcasts will make their long awaited 40K debut

What do you think Celestine is?

 nintura wrote:
Oh cool. I've never played AoS before and all I have to go on is what I've read over the years, which people said they killed off Slaanesh and replaced it with either the Horned Rat or something else.

Nope, wrong he/she/it is trapped. Also, there's rumors that he may be back this summer with elves worshipping the prince of excess.

Yeah they seem to be doing a year of focus for each Chaos God.

First off was Nurgle with the AoS Summer of War or whatever it was that also introduced Sylvaneth. Then it was Khorne's turn with Bloodbound in AoS and Khorne Daemonkin in 40k. Now it's Tzeentch with all the daemon releases and Thousand Sons. Next up would logically be a big campaign where Slaanesh comes back (possibly as a finale after her followers spend a campaign searching for her), probably coupled with something nasty happening to the Eldar in 40k.

Please oh Ruinous Powers let there be new daemonette models!

Slaanesh is still very much out there in AoS

If you fancy a short story which explains what Slaanesh's followers are up to in the meantime, I can recommend....

By The Horns and Godless from the 2015 Advent series (whole series is available for £18.99 if you want a variety of Chaos God action. For my tuppence worth, these are more interesting portrayals of Chaos than 40k has managed in a long old time)

While I was pondering on the implications of the God forever removing the grip slaneesh has on all Eldar souls, I came to a realization.

The dark eldar must be nflict pain to save their souls because slaneesh gradually Consumes it, but it is also stayed that they grow more powerful the more they feed on the pain.

Now if slaneesh hold is lifted then the dark eldar can become Uber powerful as their power doesn't wane and disappear like before.

On another note I hope for some more dark eldar stuff in this book.

 Boneville wrote:
While I was pondering on the implications of the God forever removing the grip slaneesh has on all Eldar souls, I came to a realization.

The dark eldar must be nflict pain to save their souls because slaneesh gradually Consumes it, but it is also stayed that they grow more powerful the more they feed on the pain.

Now if slaneesh hold is lifted then the dark eldar can become Uber powerful as their power doesn't wane and disappear like before.

On another note I hope for some more dark eldar stuff in this book.

I don't think it's actual power that they grow in but more of a rejuvenation process, they become a younger more perfected (outer) version of themselves, if you were to stay at the prime of your life for thousands of years you could master a lot of things and for a dark eldar that would make them a deadly proficient killer.

Time is pretty meaningless in 40k as most of the races in the universe are functionally immortal (Bit of a problem, GW?)

Marines, Eldar, Orks, Necrons, Nids and Demons just exist until they are killed.

 Kirasu wrote:
Time is pretty meaningless in 40k as most of the races in the universe are functionally immortal (Bit of a problem, GW?)

Marines, Eldar, Orks, Necrons, Nids and Demons just exist until they are killed.

and demons will just come back most of the time. It might take some time

 Mantle wrote:

 Boneville wrote:
While I was pondering on the implications of the God forever removing the grip slaneesh has on all Eldar souls, I came to a realization.

The dark eldar must be nflict pain to save their souls because slaneesh gradually Consumes it, but it is also stayed that they grow more powerful the more they feed on the pain.

Now if slaneesh hold is lifted then the dark eldar can become Uber powerful as their power doesn't wane and disappear like before.

On another note I hope for some more dark eldar stuff in this book.

I don't think it's actual power that they grow in but more of a rejuvenation process, they become a younger more perfected (outer) version of themselves, if you were to stay at the prime of your life for thousands of years you could master a lot of things and for a dark eldar that would make them a deadly proficient killer.

No, they do actually get stronger and faster(for Eldar, at least) as well as their body being rejuvenated. On top of that, their long lives (assuming they don't get permanently killed) make them a highly experienced predator. If a psyker looks at them, the witch sight reveals their souls to be some sort of terrifying creature (a la Dorian Grey).

I believe Yvaine or whatever her name is, happens to be quite old. She was a Biel-Tan craftworlder, then a corsair, and finally a Wych Succubi.