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I was just wondering, how much of this movie will be an advert? I mean you can't really do anything marketing wise with pushing their product right?

jabbakahut wrote:I was just wondering, how much of this movie will be an advert? I mean you can't really do anything marketing wise with pushing their product right?

Subliminal messaging.

I really hope this is not a "black halk down" 5 space marines dance throught 20,000 enemies. I hate that kind of movie, but with Dan abbnet I hope we won't get any of that.

Just imagine an Ultramarine waking up and getting out of the pod which resembles a plastic master mold with some cool space age sound effect and seeing a price tag on the side of the pod for the average cost of a SM squad. Then the scene cuts to a critic who complains about the subliminal messaging and a Commissar sneaks up behind the critic and Summarily Executes them.

Plankwalker wrote:Just imagine an Ultramarine waking up and getting out of the pod which resembles a plastic master mold with some cool space age sound effect and seeing a price tag on the side of the pod for the average cost of a SM squad. Then the scene cuts to a critic who complains about the subliminal messaging and a Commissar sneaks up behind the critic and Summarily Executes them.

Yeah, he even complains about how the orks are so badly painted!

Kilkrazy wrote:It's difficult to portray the Imperium as in any way 'nice'.

No need. If 300 has taught us anything, it's that audiences will root for the fascists if they get to have a metal soundtrack in the background for their slo-mo finishing moves.

I don't know why you guys are getting so worked up about whether or not the story is going to be bad. This a license movie. We know from day one the story is going to be bad. That's how license movies work. If someone actually had a good idea for a story, it would have already been made into a movie where they don't have to pay extra money for the intellectual property rights. You guys wanted a 40K movie where the IP comes before the story, and that's exactly what you are going to get.

Setting != story.
Characters != story.
Background != story.


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jabbakahut wrote:I was just wondering, how much of this movie will be an advert?

I don't think there will be anything in it that is not an advert. Expect this to be tied in with that year's miniature releases. Expect a new vehicle/unit/weapon based off of something in the movie, with an expensive new model. Expect special characters for most of the cast. Expect this movie to loop constantly in the background of every GW shop in the world for the next 20 years. I wouldn't even be surprised if a tiny action-figure line comes out.

Yeh! ActionMan with a heavy bolter!

The worst would be Golden Demon 20** (year of release date) in which the duel prize would go to the climax battle of the movie , made by some geeks ...*swipes tears of sorrow*

If I see the space marines being remorseful about killing absuloutly everything in their path, I will be mad. BURN MAIM KILL! That is what 40k is all about.

I hope this movie can fill Inquisitor's shoes.

That may be hard, though. Excellent movie.

Orkeosaurus wrote:I hope this movie can fill Inquisitor's shoes.

That may be hard, though. Excellent movie.

True dat. It's a shame it was overlooked for an Academy Award, but you know how political the Oscars are.

I think the Oscar judges are gonna be shocked when a Commisar is the hero of a fascist xenophobic Imperium with hundreds of billions of humans worshipping an emperor featured in a film for thirteen year olds.

-Hey Mommy, he looks like Hitler! Is Hitler the good guy after all??

And oh yeah, Space Marines are gonna rape the aliens with chainswords, or else I'm not watching!

Ozymandias wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:I hope this movie can fill Inquisitor's shoes.

That may be hard, though. Excellent movie.

True dat. It's a shame it was overlooked for an Academy Award, but you know how political the Oscars are.

I seriously don't think Inquisitor is that bad.

I dig out my VHS copy of Inquisitor at least once a year for a good "blast from the past". Good stuff !!

I'm looking forward to this Ultramarines movie and am just glad that some 40K animation is finally coming out. Something is better than nothing. I'd rather see a Space Wolf movie but I'll take what I can get.

Hope the idea of this movie would have well known actors and real eviroment and nothing like that movie Avatar(CGI) that just came out. So that way any one can watch this movie. I knew that 40k was going to big. All they needed was someone to make a video game out of it and that way people can finally see it visually. I feel that this was going to be bigger then Halo just because, the idea of warhammer 40k is, that it can be told throught so many story lines. except for orks and trynids. But you get my point. Thats why DOW II should have won game of the year.
Matter a fact this movie would be nice if gave many points of view because, they are making a movie about a space marine legion right? i dont want to say much because I dont want to disappointed, So Ill just watch being opened minded because I just want to enjoy the movie.
I dont want any of the movie be an adertistment, that would be something that would not be cool at all. I just dont want the movie to be all bright and stuff. The armor/armour of the marine should look real. Beatin up and not like a bright blue color. Navy blue would look fine.

I know you're new here. Beastajg, but try not to post three times in a row. There's an edit button in your post that you can click to add new things.

I hope the movie looks good. As an animator, bad 3D kills me. I really think that's the first hurtle to get over. Even if it has a good story, if it looks like hell nobody will want to watch it.

Since when is animation more important than story? Who else would agree with that?

It depends on what kind of movie you're making. If you're talking 2012 in power armour, then yeah, animation is more important. If you're talking about something good, on the other hand...

I think they have enough money up their sleeves (GW and Investors combined) to make everything go smoothly and end up a blockbuster. They managed to make people watch 2012, dammit!

The people making this movie can make it real, if not then at least have well know acters playing the roles of the characters as voice over.

Beastajg wrote:The people making this movie can make it real

I doubt that. Considering everything they've made in the past was CGI, I doubt they even own the equipment to produce a live action movie and further doubt they would pay the capital to buy said equipment to make the Ultramarine movie.

There is no debate, they've stated it is a cartoon.

The caption right before the movie begins?

In the nonchalance of the far future, there is only frivolity and joy.*
*Buy our products.

The fact they're doing the Ultramarines shouts SMALL CHILDREN to me. Since Ultramarines are the poster boys of GW, they're generally the first that appeal to newcomers. Newcomers whose voices haven't begun to crack yet. These newcomers with their Ultramarine army will flock to this movie.

Hell, they can't butcher the movie as bad as Eragon. The directors of that movie must not have read the book before creating the movie. They can't... Right?

Rico...

jabbakahut wrote:Since when is animation more important than story? Who else would agree with that?

Story comes first. However, if the animation is so glaringly bad, not many people will care about the story. As an animator, bad 3D is often too distracting for me to pay attention to anything else. Watch almost any 3D cartoon show on TV right now to know what I'm talking about.

Brother SRM wrote:...As an animator, bad 3D is often too distracting for me....

I can understand that, but I can't imagine it being bad, even the video game intros look good.

Full CGI with motion capture and all-star voice-overs (like they did for Kung-fu Panda).

Hope all agree on that.

If 13PG rating, gonna get very bloody (I like my xenos that way) but no sex or even sloppy kissing (lol love story in 40k) to juuuust make it under the rstrictions.

Hope all agree on that too.

Turbo10k wrote:Full CGI with motion capture and all-star voice-overs (like they did for Kung-fu Panda).

Hope all agree on that.

If 13PG rating, gonna get very bloody (I like my xenos that way) but no sex or even sloppy kissing (lol love story in 40k) to juuuust make it under the rstrictions.

Hope all agree on that too.

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is no love, no kissing, only war. Lest we get mention of a certain infamous fanfiction, that is.

And jabbaakahut, while the intros to the Dawn of War games are stunning, the studios that made those aren't making this movie. Take for example the Madagascar films - nice art and animation. Then watch the TV show based on it and you can see how plastic-like everything looks, and how stilted the animation is. I'm hoping the movie looks great, but that's where my skepticism lies.

Madagascar should have stayed a one off, cos the second advanced nothing, had a few laughs and the same CGI...This 40k WILL NOT HUMANELY POSSIBLY have a sequel. It's gonna be a hit, then a series spin-off that will be quite hard to rate...Imagine a cartoon 40k series on Cartoon Network.

*Mom, the orks look sad. I thinks its because the space marines are EATING them alive.*

I lke the idea of watching something terrible before watching the Ultramarine movie. After watching Mutant Chronicles (which made me feel a bit like Alex in A Clockwork Orange with my eyelids toothpicked open, screaming "You can't do that to Ludwig Van!!!") I think I can deal with a bad 40K film.

That thing was atrocious. The only thing it had to do with the mutant chronicles setting was the character names and the movie title and even if they had gotten everything right it was still a bad movie. Of course I haven't read any of the flluff from the latest incarnation of it so they may have drastically changed the background.

I don't think we have to worry about Ultramarine being that far off course. Given how bad some of the movies based on games have been I can't be sure. If it even superficailly resembles the 40k universe it will make splendid background noise for painting and modeling.

I'm just going to hope it turns out decent and if the first 15 minutes or so are bad then I will just take it out watch mutant chronicles first to make it seem better.

I'm thinking this will be basically be 300: 40K STYLE LOL

Karon wrote:I'm thinking this will be basically be 300: 40K STYLE LOL

SLOW MO CHAINSWORD ACTION....yess!!!

You get the point of R16 restriction. Now downsize it to PG13.