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cerebaton wrote:Also, who are the guys in the photo? I don't recognise any of them.

If it is the publishing department of GW, there's no reason we would recognise them as they wouldn't be games designers.

cerebaton wrote:

Flashman wrote:The writing for "Dark Eldar" is a short thick font, not very Dark Eldary.

Except, of course, that all codices use exactly the same font for their titles.

Right you are. It's been since 3rd Edition that armies got their own stylized font on their codex. Even the revised DE codex was written in squat, white letters... I didn't mean to say 'DE codex' and 'squat' in the same sentence...

FITZZ wrote:
Kid: Hey Mom can I get these?
Mom: What are they Snookums?
Kid: They are Dark Eldar,for Warhammer 40k.
Mom: Hmmm,Dark Eldar..that doesn't sound very pleasent.
Kid: Oh C'mon Mom,they just go on slave raids,murdering hundreds in extreamly brutal fasion,they also tourtre the slaves they take and gain power from eating their souls,also they are quite fond of gladitorial combat and political assasination.
Mom Do they use drugs?
Kid: Absolutely not,in fact Nancy Regan is a Haemonculis,and Tipper Gore is a master Archon.
Mom: Well in that case get three.

or how about:
Kid: hey mom, can i get these?
Mom: What are they Snookums?
kid: they are space marines! they work for a dead guy, who thinks aliens and weird people are evil, and they destroy thousands of people cause one guy looked funny, oh and they also murder people in brutal fashion, torturing survivors for information on where to find more, then employ politcal assasination to stop the weird guys boss.
mom: do they use drugs?
kid: not really...they just subject new guys to mutation and mind control and genetic re engineering
mom: well in that case.... go buy some dark eldar...they are cheaper.

Mom: Do they do drugs?
Kid: Of course they do, they are so modern.

Looks like the same image.

Now, to be fair - when I blew up the original, I applied about 10 sharpen filters, messed around with the contrast/brightness and then despeckled it.

It's very possible I could have distorted the line around chair, or it could honestly be a visual artefact produced from glare/my efforts/any number of things.

Looking at the consistent quality of the original, I don't think the image on the computer was blurred. I also don't believe it's been 'shoop'd.


Edit - Disclaimer : I'm an amateur visual manipulator. I don't profess to have professional experience, and this is merely my opinion based on the experience I do have.

Looks like a shop. The monitor is skewed, the cover is just rotated a little. Edges of the codex aren't parallel with the edges of the monitor.

Meh.

To me, it looks more like the Gateway to Commorragh (sp?) in the hardcover rulebook.

faeslayer wrote:Looks like a shop. The monitor is skewed, the cover is just rotated a little. Edges of the codex aren't parallel with the edges of the monitor.

Meh.

Exactly what I thought. Fake. It's just pasted on, its not running in an app window or anything.

The title text isn't centre aligned either. What a fail.

Lorek wrote:To me, it looks more like the Gateway to Commorragh (sp?) in the hardcover rulebook.

Most definitely not. There are no circular shapes in that pic as can be seen in the top left of the image here. I think defiler has called it correctly, but whether they are using an existing pic for the Codex cover (pretty much unprecedented) or this is all just a clever hoax remains to be seen.

There have never been any Dark Eldar. The models on sale have always just been High Elves where the moulds did not fill correctly. Instead of throwing them away GW tried to save money by selling them to 40K players. The fact that the original release of the Dark Eldar was on the 1st of April 1998 should have given it all away.

Or perhaps waiting is the only thing you can do if you want a new Dark Eldar Codex.

Defiler wrote:Looks like the same image.

Now, to be fair - when I blew up the original, I applied about 10 sharpen filters, messed around with the contrast/brightness and then despeckled it.

It's very possible I could have distorted the line around chair, or it could honestly be a visual artefact produced from glare/my efforts/any number of things.

Looking at the consistent quality of the original, I don't think the image on the computer was blurred. I also don't believe it's been 'shoop'd.


Edit - Disclaimer : I'm an amateur visual manipulator. I don't profess to have professional experience, and this is merely my opinion based on the experience I do have.

I am a professional media artist (I call myself a web developer, but my job actually entails a ton more than simple web development – including digital image manipulation).

The image looks authentic to me and does appear to be a color version of the black and white image we're all familiar with. If you look at the original unsharpened image you can see the guy is working on a dual monitor setup. You can see a large purplish-black image on the left monitor (possibly inside cover art or background image for the back side of the codex which is often nothing spectacular) and a tiny grey toolbox directly to the right of the speculated “Codex Dark Eldar” cover art. The guy may be working on a Macintosh (not at ALL unheard of in graphic design circles) which runs Photoshop as basically nothing more than a set of tools directly on the desktop which may be why it doesn’t appear to be open within an application on the monitor.

I could go on and on as to the details which lead me to believe it’s authentic but I will leave it at that. Either it’s real or an extremely well done fake.

I will also add as a side note that you did an extremely good job of cleaning up that image. You could definitely turn those amateur skills into a profession if you had the inclination to learn either web development or desktop publishing software.



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Nicorex wrote:
What makes me feel that is isnt real

1) looks like to many letter for Dark Eldar (unless they are renaming them or it isnt in english)

This is an excellent point but it isn’t “Dark Eldar” it’s “Codex Dark Eldar” in Arial Black font with about a ~138% horizontal scale and ~100 tracking (space between letters).

Nicorex wrote:@) and this is the biggy to me, the vertical edge of the codex is not parallel with the edge of the monitor, it is much farther away from the top edge than the bottom.

This is also a good point I believe what you’re referring to is an issue caused by how the .jpg file interpreted the pixels (.jpg files are never spectacular quality) – kinda bleading together some pixels of the black image behind the codex cover and the black edge of the monitor while simultaneously trying to clearly define the edge of the monitor, grayish-blue background behind the bottom of the cover, and the cover and really only having about 4 pixels to do it.

I will point out that if it was a hoax, it is INCREDIBLY easy to create the parallel alignment that you’re talking about within Photoshop… and anyone with even a basic knowledge of image manipulation would know how to do this.

I would very much like to know the origin of the image.

Bloodhorror wrote:@ defiler.

It looks more like the Space Wolves codex

That was my initial thought too.

It may or may not be Codex Dark Eldar though the comparisons being made sure do look promising. However, it's definitely not Codex Space Wolves after one glance at that book cover. Comparisons to the Dark Eldar artwork are much closer matches than to the Space Wolves book cover.

I'm not going to comment on whether it's fake or not, but I think it's hilarious that GW has created a scenario within it's own fanbase that most of us assume that it's a fake. That's an awesome level of customer relations.

One thing no one's mentioned is that GW could very easily have had a cover for the Dark Eldar Codex mocked up for years - we know they've been working on the rules for a while - so even if this image is real (which I believe it is), it's not necessarily an indication that C: DE is on its way :(

Also, how old is this photo? Where did it come from?

Skarboy wrote:I'm not going to comment on whether it's fake or not, but I think it's hilarious that GW has created a scenario within it's own fanbase that most of us assume that it's a fake. That's an awesome level of customer relations.

Customer relations?

My skepticism of any rumor is a result of GW's fanbase itself.

Another one posted in the BOLS comments:



The closer it gets, the faker it looks IMO!

@ incarna - Thank you. The reason I explained myself was I didn't want to mis-represent my opinion. I agree with you, either it's an *extremely* well done hoax, or 100% genuine.

I seen GWS's photoshopping jobs in other similar types of blacked out photos, and this one doesn't look like a simple "select area - blur" job, which is what I assume some of the people in the thread think.

And ohhhh, another photo. I'll post my next analysis and hopefully you can get back to the thread on it.

The mountain dew in that last pic is obviously shopped...completely wrong color.

narchy wrote:Another one posted in the BOLS comments:



The closer it gets, the faker it looks IMO!

Well I can’t comment on this images authenticity in any way other than the Dark Eldar codex cover image looks like it’s the same as the one in the other photograph, I will say that THIS image seems staged.

First, I’ve known a lot of designers and none every kept their desk that clean. That’s certainly not a smoking gun – just an observation. I don’t recognize the windows open on the monitor so it may not be a designer, could be a web developer whose getting ready to upload the image to the GW website. Web developers don’t keep their desk very clean either usually, but that’s neither here not there. It just makes me question whether someone ACTUALLY works at that desk or not.

Next, who’s taking the photograph? If it’s someone who works in the office, why is he bothering to take a photograph of some small image in the bottom corner of a monitor for five feet away? Why not just maximize that image and snap the shot. Same logic follows if it’s the actual guy who works at that computer.

Duno – seems staged. Headphones neatly tucked away. A couple nicely placed cubical decorations. Seems like there’s at least be a pen or pencil laying out. My desk looks like a bomb went off on even the best of days…

I’m not saying the image is fake – just that the context of the image is “off”.

May I point something out???

As a former graphics designer and former GW HQ employee - NO STUDIO MEMBER WOULD USE A MONITOR THAT CRAPPY FOR DESIGN WORK!!!

FAKE!!!

Also - Mountain Dew is really hard to get in England.

It's like £1.25 a can.

Yes, that can of mountain dew now suggests hoax to me. Oh well, cool hoax cover anyway. GW, if you're watching, we like this pic (and your cover for Blood Angels is rubbish).

OK, now how come this photoshop pic has so much more traction than the Warseer rumors?

The picture is garbage.

Anyone have anything relevent about the DE other then the couple of greens from a few months ago and the battle book missions?

Does anyone have the plans for that DE flying land raider vehicle that they had when the DE first came out?

They took two or three of the flyers, combined them and in made for a pretty neat looking skimmer with plenty of spikes on it.

I've got a couple of small armies of them running around in the back room somewhere, might be time to dig them out.

Are they worth my time, or just something for target practice?

It never fails to astonish me how much free time some people have. I mean, you have time in your life to do whatever and you spend it making fake rumors and photos about toy soldiers?

Grot 6 wrote:The picture is garbage.

Anyone have anything relevent about the DE other then the couple of greens from a few months ago and the battle book missions?

Does anyone have the plans for that DE flying land raider vehicle that they had when the DE first came out?

They took two or three of the flyers, combined them and in made for a pretty neat looking skimmer with plenty of spikes on it.

I've got a couple of small armies of them running around in the back room somewhere, might be time to dig them out.

Are they worth my time, or just something for target practice?

Something to expend those illegal fireworks on...

Grot 6 wrote:Anyone have anything relevent about the DE other then the couple of greens from a few months ago and the battle book missions?

No, we know absolutely bugga all really (a few smug people supposedly 'in the know' aside - you know who you are ). However, for me there is a sense that this time, maybe, the whispers are beginning to get a little louder.

radiohazard wrote:
Also - Mountain Dew is really hard to get in England.

It's like £1.25 a can.

There is no such thing as Mountain Dew in England are version is sprite.

Farmer wrote:

radiohazard wrote:
Also - Mountain Dew is really hard to get in England.

It's like £1.25 a can.

There is no such thing as Mountain Dew in England are version is sprite.

Shows how much you know - You can buy Mountain Dew from Mill Road in Cambridge in at least 3 of the shops on that road.

And Sprite tastes nothing like Mountain Dew.

Let's Eat also sells them in crates of six.

Sprite is a lemon-lime Coke product created to compete with what is now Pepsi's 7-Up. Mountain Dew is an entirely different Pepsi product.

I Think Dark Eldar May no Longer be Safe From Update

They are also not safe from wild rumors, speculation, crazed debates and possible hoaxes either.