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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 16:50:54
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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1. Eldar need an assault tank.
2. All Aspect Warriors get 2 base attacks.
3. Dark Angels Sammael becomes an IC. Gives Ravenwing rules along lines of Khan or Shrike.
4. Give DW terminators taken as Elites, Heroic Intervention.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 16:55:33
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Old Man Ultramarine wrote:1. Eldar need an assault tank.
2. All Aspect Warriors get 2 base attacks.
3. Dark Angels Sammael becomes an IC. Gives Ravenwing rules along lines of Khan or Shrike.
4. Give DW terminators taken as Elites, Heroic Intervention.
I can tell from your sig that you've really been wanting those eldar changes for a loooong time.
12.5k points? Holy crap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 17:01:12
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Old Man Ultramarine wrote:1. Eldar need an assault tank.
2. All Aspect Warriors get 2 base attacks.
3. Dark Angels Sammael becomes an IC. Gives Ravenwing rules along lines of Khan or Shrike.
4. Give DW terminators taken as Elites, Heroic Intervention.
I can tell from your sig that you've really been wanting those eldar changes for a loooong time.
12.5k points? Holy crap.
I haven't updated blogs in a long time. The Eldar are probably more than 13k. The DA are mostly RW and DW.
With all these special rules for BA, SW and Tyranids... What I'm asking for is reasonable.
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2012 tourney record:
Eldar 18W-2L-5D Overall x4
Deathwing 21W-7L-6D Overall x4 Best General x1 Best Appearance x3, 19th place Adepticon 40k Champs.
Space Wolves 2W-0L-1D Best Painted x1
Armies:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 17:32:23
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Mars Pattern Leman Russ
AV 14/13/11
1 Twin linked lascannon Turret
1 Hull Lascannon
Sponson Lascannons
FEEL THE FURY!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 17:43:03
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Old Man Ultramarine wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Old Man Ultramarine wrote:1. Eldar need an assault tank.
2. All Aspect Warriors get 2 base attacks.
3. Dark Angels Sammael becomes an IC. Gives Ravenwing rules along lines of Khan or Shrike.
4. Give DW terminators taken as Elites, Heroic Intervention.
I can tell from your sig that you've really been wanting those eldar changes for a loooong time.
12.5k points? Holy crap.
I haven't updated blogs in a long time. The Eldar are probably more than 13k. The DA are mostly RW and DW.
With all these special rules for BA, SW and Tyranids... What I'm asking for is reasonable.
Oh,I agree. Eldar have become rather nerfed with all these new rules for these absurd armies. Blood claws? Give me a break! Give my CSM Storm bolters already!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 21:34:08
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Furious Raptor
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Noooo chaos should not have storm bolters, it's wrong, like orks having jetbikes (but that would be so funny!) plus twin linked bolters are better. And deffkopters aren't jetbikes, they're pieces of junk that somehow fly...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 21:37:14
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Madman49 wrote:Noooo chaos should not have storm bolters, it's wrong, like orks having jetbikes (but that would be so funny!) plus twin linked bolters are better.
Well than call it something else then. Like a "chaos bolter" or something of the like. Our termies are suffering from a lack of hits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 21:54:07
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Light scouts
WS2 BS 4 S 2 T 4 W 1 I 2 A 1 Ld 6 SV 6+ at the cost of 35 Points
with bolt rifles S 4 AP 2 Rn 36 Type rapid
with a transport Newt F 11 S 10 R 10 BS 4 at the cost of 50 points
with twin link bolt rifles and cap of 6.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/07 02:29:10
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
Springfield Plaza GW Store
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Madman49 wrote:Noooo chaos should not have storm bolters, it's wrong, like orks having jetbikes (but that would be so funny!) plus twin linked bolters are better.
Well than call it something else then. Like a "chaos bolter" or something of the like. Our termies are suffering from a lack of hits.
I agree a chaos bolter would be more fitting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/07 03:00:24
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Generalian wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Madman49 wrote:Noooo chaos should not have storm bolters, it's wrong, like orks having jetbikes (but that would be so funny!) plus twin linked bolters are better.
Well than call it something else then. Like a "chaos bolter" or something of the like. Our termies are suffering from a lack of hits.
I agree a chaos bolter would be more fitting
They had storm bolters in the heresy,I don't see why they did'nt think to steal any. Automatically Appended Next Post: xxmatt85 wrote:Light scouts
WS2 BS 4 S 2 T 4 W 1 I 2 A 1 Ld 6 SV 6+ at the cost of 35 Points
with bolt rifles S 4 AP 2 Rn 36 Type rapid
with a transport Newt F 11 S 10 R 10 BS 4 at the cost of 50 points
with twin link bolt rifles and cap of 6.
Um,no..that would be outrageously stupid. How do they have a 6+ save and 4 toughness? What would be any possible use for these at 35 points? A dedicated transport that's exactly the same as a rhino for 50 points?
You're post is consumed by immeasurable failsauce. Looks like you need a wet-nap
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/07 03:05:53
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Fighter Pilot
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Chimera's with Assault Cannons. Or Space Marine Tanks. Actual Tanks, not APC's with Lascannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/07 03:11:37
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Generalian wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Madman49 wrote:Noooo chaos should not have storm bolters, it's wrong, like orks having jetbikes (but that would be so funny!) plus twin linked bolters are better.
Well than call it something else then. Like a "chaos bolter" or something of the like. Our termies are suffering from a lack of hits.
I agree a chaos bolter would be more fitting
They had storm bolters in the heresy,I don't see why they did'nt think to steal any.
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xxmatt85 wrote:Light scouts
WS2 BS 4 S 2 T 4 W 1 I 2 A 1 Ld 6 SV 6+ at the cost of 35 Points
with bolt rifles S 4 AP 2 Rn 36 Type rapid
with a transport Newt F 11 S 10 R 10 BS 4 at the cost of 50 points
with twin link bolt rifles and cap of 6.
Um,no..that would be outrageously stupid. How do they have a 6+ save and 4 toughness? What would be any possible use for these at 35 points? A dedicated transport that's exactly the same as a rhino for 50 points?
You're post is consumed by immeasurable failsauce. Looks like you need a wet-nap
There a recon like unit train not to be taken alive and to take puinment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/07 03:23:02
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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.....okay.I get it. They're infiltrate? That makes them more useful. Still don't understand why that wouldn't just be the job of another scout.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/07 11:51:15
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Samus_aran115 wrote:.....okay.I get it. They're infiltrate? That makes them more useful. Still don't understand why that wouldn't just be the job of another scout.
Well there lighter, ceaper, and there weapons have more range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/11 18:14:58
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
Springfield Plaza GW Store
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xxmatt85 wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Generalian wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Madman49 wrote:Noooo chaos should not have storm bolters, it's wrong, like orks having jetbikes (but that would be so funny!) plus twin linked bolters are better.
Well than call it something else then. Like a "chaos bolter" or something of the like. Our termies are suffering from a lack of hits.
I agree a chaos bolter would be more fitting
They had storm bolters in the heresy,I don't see why they did'nt think to steal any.
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xxmatt85 wrote:Light scouts
WS2 BS 4 S 2 T 4 W 1 I 2 A 1 Ld 6 SV 6+ at the cost of 35 Points
with bolt rifles S 4 AP 2 Rn 36 Type rapid
with a transport Newt F 11 S 10 R 10 BS 4 at the cost of 50 points
with twin link bolt rifles and cap of 6.
Um,no..that would be outrageously stupid. How do they have a 6+ save and 4 toughness? What would be any possible use for these at 35 points? A dedicated transport that's exactly the same as a rhino for 50 points?
You're post is consumed by immeasurable failsauce. Looks like you need a wet-nap
There a recon like unit train not to be taken alive and to take puinment.
You see... the only problem with scouts and Warhammer 40k... is that their is nothing to SCOUT AHEAD FOR! you see the whole map anyway!
If GW was making 6th edition so that tokens represented each unit and each unit was only revealed once the token was revealed
THEN i would use scouts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/11 19:15:37
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Squig special characters e.g. Marneus Calgar squig, Abbadon squig, tank(cardboard box) squig
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/11 21:13:00
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
Rhode Island
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Black Templar Sniper Squad, we already bought and modeled a grassy gnoll, now we only need snipers!
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W/D/L/ A(a= Annihilated beyond doubt)
Orks =44/2/9/2 15k+ pts (assembled/broken)
Black Templar= 4/1/2/1 3k 2k pts (assembled)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/10 11:50:23
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Fixture of Dakka
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raven guard chapter master Taan Orcus- 200pts
Jump pack
Pair of lightning claws
Iron halo
Artificier armour
stealth
infiltrate
smoke bombs (smoke launchers)
eternal warrior
Unnoticable- shots originating from more than 12" count shooting through cover.
If the owning player chooses, Orcus and his squad may be placed back in reserve to infiltrate again during the game.
S4 BS5 T4 Sv 2+ I6 WS6 Ld10 A5
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/10 13:37:41
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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id like to see
kasrkins being useful
i:e strength 4 hs l/g's
DA's brought up to date
(im not bitching i love my DA's but it would be nice)
(time for my plasma fetish)
since bike troops and termie troops are no longer our thing id like to see something else replace it
DA's getting something with plasma
like a plasma atk bike
or executioner cannons on a L/R (smaller transport cap)
PLASMA PRED bwahahahhaah
or plasma that doesnt overheat
they could say d/a's are so well versedwith plasma tech that they can reroll "gets hot"
ravenwing - skilled rider, turbo boosting scout move
option not to take sammael, captains on bikes like vanilla dex,
and bring back Asmodai
and naaman (telion stats would do)
id like to see the l/s storm for DA but our scouts would need S/W type fluff so they could be vet's for hunting the fallen etc.
(i dont think there is anyone let in the chapter who doesnt know yet)
its been said but vanguard vets with jump packs for FREE
let vanilla marines uses Gabriel seth since the B/A's dont
lol he's awesome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/10 16:35:26
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Give CSM psykers some kind of psychic defense and I would be happy.
Or, you know, cultists. Maybe cultists that provide psychic defenses?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/12 05:02:51
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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All I can say that i really want is for ANY predator, not the the Baal Predator, to be able to take a flamestorm cannon, that way i can have a predator benefit from Vulkan
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Happiness is Mandatory!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/12 05:58:56
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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btemple0 wrote:All I can say that i really want is for ANY predator, not the the Baal Predator, to be able to take a flamestorm cannon, that way i can have a predator benefit from Vulkan
Vulkan doesn't actually affect Flamestorm Cannons - only Flamers, Heavy Flamers, Melta weapons and Thunder Hammers...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/12 12:42:05
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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xxmatt85 wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:.....okay.I get it. They're infiltrate? That makes them more useful. Still don't understand why that wouldn't just be the job of another scout.
Well there lighter, ceaper, and there weapons have more range.
How can you justify a scout unit having weaponry with can penetrate terminator armour? Making them rending would make more sense but then to be honest you might as well use a special weapons squad with sniper rifles? For a "recon" unit whats wrong with Veterans with Forwards sentries doctrine if you need some long range firepower you can equip them with 3 sniper rifles. There is no need for a unit like this in IG as the role is already filled by other units in the army.
I'd like it if the Vanquisher could still fire standard rounds instead of just AT rounds however that just makes the battletank redundant
Vox Casters in heavy weapons squads?
Or maybe change the rule on masters of Ordnance so that if they can draw line of sight on an enemy unit targeted by ordnance either the scatter dice or the distance scattered can be rerolled
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/12 16:47:27
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Space Marines;
An assault ramp equipped terminator transports that isn't burdened with paying for;
1. A bunch of weapons that either contradict the use of the other weapons on the vehicle (Heavy bolter and lascannons? really?), have such slowed fire arcs (LOL flamestorms) or a heap of anti-infantry weapons that come standard on your base troop
2. Machine spirit (+30 points according to the chaos codex to Marine dex comparison)
3. 14 BACK armor....how often is this REALLY useful? Especially when you KNOW you are paying like 50 points for it.
It ideally would be something like this
AV; 13/11/10.
Assault vehicle. Stormbolter.
Transports 12 models, terminators count as 2 models.
~100-120 points.
Think a predator w/o weapons or a heavier/bigger rhino. Is it really too much to ask for a rhino-style vehicle for your terminators?
Upon closer inspection....my proposed vehicle is a glorified Ork Battlewagon.....I want space marine battlewagons! Import superior Ork technology!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/12 17:00:15
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Thunderhawks in regular games.
AV 14 13 12
Assault vehicle
Deep Strike
Battlecannon, two twin-linked lascannons, (missiles or whatever)
It can carry either: 20 infantry, 10 bikes, 10 terminators and a dreadnought (in addition to everything else)
Or something. They use them very often in the books. Apoc gets everything good
Also, I'd like predators with better options...For Chaos at least. I want a twin-linked plasma cannon turret, and multi-melta sponsons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/12 17:10:17
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Serious Squig Herder
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I would invent a tank for IG, I'd call it the Cyclops.
It would be on a Leman Russ chassis, but I can't remember the armor on that. It would have a weapon called the Cyclops Laser Cannon, with the following profile:
Str: 10
AP: 1
Heavy 10, Large Blast, Cripple
The Cripple effect means that any unit/vehicle hit by the Cyclops Laser cannot move for the rest of the game. The tank would also have a Cyclops Targeter which allows the tank to fire at multiple units.
I think IG need this tank because they are sorely in need of anti-horde.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/13 03:22:42
Subject: Re:If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Been Around the Block
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Land raider with 3 reaper autocannons.
Or 2 cannons and a HB but have it hold more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/15 07:30:02
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:I would invent a tank for IG, I'd call it the Cyclops.
It would be on a Leman Russ chassis, but I can't remember the armor on that. It would have a weapon called the Cyclops Laser Cannon, with the following profile:
Str: 10
AP: 1
Heavy 10, Large Blast, Cripple
The Cripple effect means that any unit/vehicle hit by the Cyclops Laser cannot move for the rest of the game. The tank would also have a Cyclops Targeter which allows the tank to fire at multiple units.
I think IG need this tank because they are sorely in need of anti-horde.
Okay is that your army okay heres my three cyclops, oh your army just disappeared
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location, location, locationMagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/15 09:28:08
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Librarian power that allows rerolls to wound.
Ummm a Grey Knight army that actually is as powerful as it's supposed to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/15 11:43:48
Subject: If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:I would invent a tank for IG, I'd call it the Cyclops.
It would be on a Leman Russ chassis, but I can't remember the armor on that. It would have a weapon called the Cyclops Laser Cannon, with the following profile:
Str: 10
AP: 1
Heavy 10, Large Blast, Cripple
The Cripple effect means that any unit/vehicle hit by the Cyclops Laser cannot move for the rest of the game. The tank would also have a Cyclops Targeter which allows the tank to fire at multiple units.
I think IG need this tank because they are sorely in need of anti-horde.
IG has anti horde, fire a battle tank at a horde unit it soon thins out. Also the cyclops already exist its a remote control demo tank, and finally that tank is ridiculous I hope you were joking when you posted it.
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