Dawn of War 2: Retribution

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**Melissia**

For some reason, “Scion of the Emperor" makes me think of a certain bad fanfiction. I wish it did not.

**Eldar Savior**

I wonder what the new race will be? Hopefully somebody everybody is happy with.

**ChrisWWII**

No, it's nice to see some break away from the 'gruff, manly, over dosed testosterone man' lead from video games. Even I get tired of playing as that at some point. This is a nice change, and the fact that they're not playing up the fact that the character is female is a welcome plus.

I'm just getting very excited to see where they're going with this. So far, the fluff and story sound good, the characters mildly interesting....though I'm still dying of curiosity to see confirmations about our suspicions for the new race.

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Bad 40k fanfiction? Oh gods, that sounds like it could be dangerous....I've tried to keep myself to the tvtropes 'recommended works' page. Cancels out Sturgeon's Law rather nicely.

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As far as the new race goes, current betting on dakka says either Imperial Guard or some kind of Inquisition force.

**Intonable_vab**

I don't think we have to worry about Relic screwing up story wise. They have had a long time of working with the 40k IP. They know how the universe works and if the Chaos Rising campaign is anything to go by they are getting better with practice.

**Happygrunt**

Melissia wrote:Because they've already progressed to level thirty, one of them becoming a full fledged captain. Their abilities were highly lethal and they basically just walked through any threats before them shy of a greater daemon. They killed two avatars, and commanded tanks in a massive assault, and so on and so forth with their awesome, seemingly godlike abilities.

Unless Relic has us play the characters with all their abilities removed, I don't foresee them coming back. They're just too strong to start out with.

Actually, wouldn't it be nice to see them as Captains, as Thule's spot is vacated? I mean, I normally dont get attached to characters in games, but this little band of brothers, its good work with immersion. Plus, we still have the rest of the blood ravens to... meet and greet?

**Vertrucio**

Autarch is confirmed for multiplayer. It is not a new commander, instead it's a unit that's similar to the Librarian or Weirdboy but is called in via a global ability.

Confirmed abilities are Fleet of Foot (of course), but he also has a Leap ability, like the ASM jump, except that where he lands he basically gives a buff similar to the Avatar aura.

A third ability is called: Skyleap – The Autarch jumps high into the atmosphere, returning to the global ability bar to be called in for a reduced cost.

**Grot 6**

I picked this DOW up a couple of weeks ago. I tried to get it to play on my laptop and it doesn't work for me. If anyone is interested, I'll sell it to you for 40 bucks. ( I have the one with both games)

Looked like a great game until I tried to play it.

(PM me so as not to sidebar the conversation, please.)

I really like this game, but the dual sign up really doesn't do it for me.

**Melissia**

Skyleap is also how he arrives. Basically, you indicate three areas for him to bombard with grenades, and then an area for him to land.

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Grot 6 wrote:I really like this game, but the dual sign up really doesn't do it for me.

They got rid of Windows Live for the Retribution expansion. You'll only need Steam.

**Grot 6**

is there a patch for the DOW 2 and CR that you do not have to sign up for both?

**Melissia**

Patch? No. It's something they signed up for that they're now regreatting, as they had thought that Games for Windows Live had a decent matchup service. They don't, so they're having their next expansion be Steam only. There's not much they can do about DoW2 and its first expansion, unfortunately.

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As a side note, your CD key is tied to your live account and your steam account, so trying to resell the game is kinda ripping someone off.

**Happygrunt**

I think its strange that they have a trailer for all the non-marine races out already. Also, steamaccount: Happygrunt

**Melissia**

Not quite, they have no trailer for the CSM campaign, nor the new faction (given that we don't know which faction it is obviously).

**Eumerin**

Melissia wrote:I'm just glad the "player character" (IE, Kayleth) is female. And an autarch!

Yes, that does make a difference to me. Call me petty if ya want, but it's nice to see a female lead for once.

Seems to be an Eldar thing with Relic. Their Farseers are always female, and they had a female Eldar as the player in the various Eldar campaigns for DoW1 (no doubt due to the fact that the Farseers was set as female in the original campaign). The Harlequin was also female, iirc.

Of course, other than making the Inquisitor female, there wasn't much leeway with the other races...

Unit: Autarch

Availability: Tier 2

Abilities:
Fleet of Foot – Greatly increases the unit’s speed but reduces the Autarch’s damage output for the duration of the ability.

Leap – Soar through the air and land at the targeted location. Upon landing the Autarch increases the speed, damage, health and of nearby infantry units.

Skyleap – The Autarch jumps high into the atmosphere, returning to the global ability bar to be called in for a reduced cost.

The Autarch descends to the battlefield when called in from the global ability bar. The unit can be dropped into any hot spot on the map, provided you have line of sight on the drop zone. A volley of grenades dropped from the sky precedes the Autarch, and you can strategically place where each of the grenades lands. Do you want them all to drop on an enemy strong point? No problem. Want one to fall on each of the three enemy squads you’re facing? Done. While they’re picking up the pieces, the Autarch lands to engage the survivors.

With the versatility of being called in anywhere your forces are, the Autarch can be just what you need to swing the outcome of a critical battle in your favor. Once the battle is won, use Skyleap to return the Autarch to the global ability bar to be called on at a reduced cost, and with another volley of grenades to announce its arrival.

Sounds suspiciously like a Swooping Hawk. Will she be armed with a LasBlaster as well?

**The Grog**

Autarchs bounced between several aspect paths, I believe, before settling on the battlefield commander job. So they can use a number of the aspect weapons & abilities.

**haroon**

I dont know if any one posted this, but you can get DOW 2 + chaos rising for 13$ on steam during the sale.

**Melissia**

Eumerin wrote:Of course, other than making the Inquisitor female, there wasn't much leeway with the other races...

Any Guard officer, commissar, priest, techpriest, stormtrooper, etc can be female. Necrons can be either gender, assuming the Necrontyr had genders to begin with the C'tan didn't likely notice any difference between male or female Necrontyr. Tau commanders can be male or female. Chaos cultists are not restricted based off of gender (nor, arguably, are chaos space marines). Sisters naturally are all-female.

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The Grog wrote:Autarchs bounced between several aspect paths, I believe, before settling on the battlefield commander job. So they can use a number of the aspect weapons & abilities.

Right.

In the campaign, the wings are default equipment, but likely not the only equipment. They probably also have access to warp spider backpacks, banshee masks, and so on. If the Force Commander can have a teleporter and jump pack, I don't see why an Autarch can't.

**Melissia**

Getting information out of the DoW2 forums is a pain. They always revert to jokes bout a fictional wookie army any time someone mentions... well, anything relevant. Even the Eldar campaign characters topic devolved into a "wookie faction" thread.

Somehow the mods there are bigger trolls than the rest of the posters.

**ChrisWWII**

I'm actually surprised. Most threads here do not devolve into memes veyr rapidly at all....a few jokes yes, but not alot of memes.

Nothing unusually stupid at least.

**Wolflord Grimnar**

i watched the demo and stuff at games day uk 2010 along with the space marine game (alot of dead orcs

)cant wait till they are out

**Ethancol**

Love this game, shame I sold my PC to my bro and the one I'm typing on lags of DoWI hahaha!!!

I really really miss DoWII though, I bought CR then sold the pc a month later I didn't even get a chance to use all the units

Although I play Nids IRL gaming, I played spess mariehns most on this?? Don't know why

One day I'll have a pc to run this sh*t hot game again!!

**Melissia**

http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blog-post/tyranid-campaign-hero
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blog-post/multiplayer-unit-profile-tyranid-swarmlord

Two more from Relic today.

**ChrisWWII**

In the picture for the Swarmlord, I think I see pieces of flak armor, and regular human (non-PAd) body parts on the ground...more evidence for Guard?

I do rather like this though, Tyranid campaign definitely does seem interesting. I was worried it'd just be a 'attack, nom, attack, nom' repeated ad nauseum, but it looks like they've managed to work out a prety good plot for the 'Nids.

**Happygrunt**

ChrisWWII wrote:In the picture for the Swarmlord, I think I see pieces of flak armor, and regular human (non-PAd) body parts on the ground...more evidence for Guard?

I do rather like this though, Tyranid campaign definitely does seem interesting. I was worried it'd just be a 'attack, nom, attack, nom' repeated ad nauseum, but it looks like they've managed to work out a prety good plot for the 'Nids.

And it looks like that helmet is falling to the ground as well. Who knows, but I bet it is guard or Inquisition. (Look at the I in Retribution, dosen't that look familiar?)

**Archonate**

Melissia wrote:Getting information out of the DoW2 forums is a pain. They always revert to jokes bout a fictional wookie army any time someone mentions... well, anything relevant. Even the Eldar campaign characters topic devolved into a "wookie faction" thread.

Somehow the mods there are bigger trolls than the rest of the posters.

This is why I left those forums long ago. I got tired of their Mods arbitrarily locking interesting threads just because they're not interested in the subject.

**Grot 6**

Melissia wrote:Patch? No. It's something they signed up for that they're now regreatting, as they had thought that Games for Windows Live had a decent matchup service. They don't, so they're having their next expansion be Steam only. There's not much they can do about DoW2 and its first expansion, unfortunately.

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As a side note, your CD key is tied to your live account and your steam account, so trying to resell the game is kinda ripping someone off.

My game does not even load, so the CD key hasn't even been used yet. I can't access any accounts, so the game is pretty much new and opened.

Doesn't load on my computer, no steam account, so it is what it is. A game who needs a home in someone elses house.

**Aun'shi**

Brilliant! I've been looking forward to this for awhile, but first I must stop playing DOW SS compulsively!

**Eumerin**

ChrisWWII wrote:In the picture for the Swarmlord, I think I see pieces of flak armor, and regular human (non-PAd) body parts on the ground...more evidence for Guard?

Personally I wouldn't read too much into that. I agree that the Guard is the most likely new faction. But since they already exist as a computer controlled army within the original release, I suspect that they'll appear in the single-player campaigns regardless of whether or not they're also made playable.

**Happygrunt**

Aun'shi wrote:Brilliant! I've been looking forward to this for awhile, but first I must stop playing DOW SS compulsively!

Actually, you need to stop playing SS entirely. DC was MUUUUUCH better.

**Melissia**

Not really. After the patches, SS is definitely better than DC.

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As a more on topic note, patch 2.6 is announced, Relic is attempting to fix the bugs caused by Games For Windows Live's most recent release. Yeah, screw you too Microsoft.

**blood reaper**

Dont let Microsoft hear you they will [Goons crash through blood reapers windows]