Who should win

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**Nicholas**

Juniperius wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:
Juniperius wrote:
Our "brilliant" IoM is not doing well it is said in the rulesbook timeline that the throne is irreparebly damaged with the Emperor posibly dying real soon.

Chaos will die/everly decrease in power as the other forces wither away as, The Eldar are prophesized to kill their god, They need to feed upon the weaknesses and emotions of lesser races to keep their strenght, it will go wrong somewhere.

The Orks simply WILL not unite and will be the biggest nuisance/threat in the galaxy, (depends on actual numbers)

Nids are also speculation the fact that every race to date has fought them back doesn't help and all the apocalypsing doesn't help establish a good picture but their victory looks grimy, no one lives the hive fleet dies out and live starts anew is what i guess.

I don't know enough about the Necrons to give a verdict as they will also get a fluff-wash soon.

Eldar are simply dying out and only forstalling the inevitable, at the cost of others, for the Dark Eldar The same thing, only more sadist.

And none of this will happened because we are stucked in year 41.999... But if advance... Emperor resurects, Primarch returned... and Humanity wins by default.

Oh great and yet another blind faithfull servants of the emperor looking to (an indeed powerfull) dead man, his spirit is failing(and canablizing innocent psykers) and his throne damaged and flawed.
You have been listening to Ecclesiarchy lies for too long, the other races offer only more war and death join all in the greater good!!!

Once again this argument is irrelevant on this thread people

Tau do brainwash and they are communists. The entire population has been brainwashed by etherial hormones so they do whatever they say even if it could be for their own protection. They have an equal caste system that you are born into and can't advance from, but they are all equal except for their leaders which are better than everyone. If that's not communism I don't know what is. The IOM I admit are not a good choice now, but If Big E does come back as star child they'd be my choice. As it stands now I chose Eldar for reasons previously stated

**iproxtaco**

"Brainwashing" is not confirmed, and they aren't communists, I suggest you look into both the Tau's background and the definition of the movement before you make another comment. Or you're just a rampant Troll, in which case begone, back under your bridge.

**Nicholas**

iproxtaco wrote:"Brainwashing" is not confirmed, and they aren't communists, I suggest you look into both the Tau's background and the definition of the movement before you make another comment. Or you're just a rampant Troll, in which case begone, back under your bridge.

Sorry I'm just mad that nobody has read what the thread is actually about, I've tried to get it back on track atleast four times now. Correct me if I'm wrong about what I said, but they do have a caste system that they are born into and almost never are raised out of. Brainwashing may not be true, but I have not seen anything that disproves them as communists.

**iproxtaco**

Well maybe you should actually read their background and the definition of communism. This has been talked about many times, they aren't communists.

**Nicholas**

iproxtaco wrote:Well maybe you should actually read their background and the definition of communism. This has been talked about many times, they aren't communists.

I have read most of it, and you still haven't told me why I'm wrong. Also not trying to troll here actually want to know what I'm reading wrong.

**iproxtaco**

Well to start with, they operate a Caste system, that's already thrown our form of communism out the window. Secondly, their leadership is an Oligarchical society. Basically, they can't be described by any one term, and communism is not one of them.

**Nicholas**

iproxtaco wrote:Well to start with, they operate a Caste system, that's already thrown our form of communism out the window. Secondly, their leadership is an Oligarchical society. Basically, they can't be described by any one term, and communism is not one of them.

Second part I agree with but the caste thing can work against you. If you are born a worker in a communistic society you are always a worker, if you are born to be in the Earth caste you are always in the Earth caste. The Tau castes are all on an equal level just have different tasks. The only ones that are above anyone are their leaders, who are also born into their leadership role

**Brother Coa**

iproxtaco wrote:Well to start with, they operate a Caste system, that's already thrown our form of communism out the window. Secondly, their leadership is an Oligarchical society. Basically, they can't be described by any one term, and communism is not one of them.

And I think that he means that Tau ideals of "Grater Good" are based on Marx ideal of "Grater Good", witch Lenin adopted as main plan for his revolution.
In theory they have a lot of similarities, in practice they don't. Simply because Tau are not Humans, and Communism is a Human ideology.

**Wardragoon**

Brother Coa wrote:
nomotog wrote:
Can the IoM actually win? I mean what would that look like? They already control most of the universe. They kind of already won, this is it. It's just not a very nice prize.

I didn't know that borders of the Imperium stretch across millions of galaxies

I am not even certain they span the Milky Way, I think just the arm Terra is on.

**Clumpski**

Wardragoon wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:
nomotog wrote:
Can the IoM actually win? I mean what would that look like? They already control most of the universe. They kind of already won, this is it. It's just not a very nice prize.

I didn't know that borders of the Imperium stretch across millions of galaxies

I am not even certain they span the Milky Way, I think just the arm Terra is on.

naw thats proven otherwise just by looking at the BRB

**Scarey Nerd**

Clumpski wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:
nomotog wrote:
Can the IoM actually win? I mean what would that look like? They already control most of the universe. They kind of already won, this is it. It's just not a very nice prize.

I didn't know that borders of the Imperium stretch across millions of galaxies

I am not even certain they span the Milky Way, I think just the arm Terra is on.

naw thats proven otherwise just by looking at the BRB

Aye, the Ultramar system is in the bottom-right, so that puts that theory out of the window

**nomotog**

Nicholas wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:Well to start with, they operate a Caste system, that's already thrown our form of communism out the window. Secondly, their leadership is an Oligarchical society. Basically, they can't be described by any one term, and communism is not one of them.

Second part I agree with but the caste thing can work against you. If you are born a worker in a communistic society you are always a worker, if you are born to be in the Earth caste you are always in the Earth caste. The Tau castes are all on an equal level just have different tasks. The only ones that are above anyone are their leaders, who are also born into their leadership role

Try thinking older. I personally see them as something like a monarchy.

You are confusing Communists a little. You can be born a miner and go to school to be a doctor (you get paid the same though so good luck with that).

**dajobe**

Here is my list of who should win, in order, the bigger,the better

IMPERIUM>TAU>NECRONS>ORKS>TYRANIDS>CHAOS>CHUNKS OF TURD>ELDAR of any form

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