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Death Master Snikch, perfect

rockerbikie wrote:One Dark Eldar Archon: No Problems.

Of course there wasn't, do you really think that the Dark Eldar would let some lesser being miscast a model of them?

Hey Guys. I need a little help D:
I brought myself a pack of finecraft Plauge Marines, I had a quick inspection before I started to see if there was anything wrong with them. I couldn't see anything wrong with them (although its a bit hard because they're not meant to be perfect because they are nurgle, so its meant to be a little mangly). A problem has come up though, I have glued one of the arms on to a dude, picked up another piece to do the other arm, then noticed that the shoulder pads is seriously bad. The mould isn't complete and its got gaps and stuff round the top.
Is there anything I can do to get this piece replace? Or have I voided the warranty by starting the building of the men?
Gonna be a bit annoyed if I have because I paid £25 to have a dude less :(

If its not, what can I do to attempt to get a replacement part for it?

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but its related to some of the talk here (finecast and the talk of replacing units)

Krellnus wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:One Dark Eldar Archon: No Problems.

Of course there wasn't, do you really think that the Dark Eldar would let some lesser being miscast a model of them?

True, I plan to buy a box of Treekin soon.

MittinsKittens wrote:Hey Guys. I need a little help D:
I brought myself a pack of finecraft Plauge Marines, I had a quick inspection before I started to see if there was anything wrong with them. I couldn't see anything wrong with them (although its a bit hard because they're not meant to be perfect because they are nurgle, so its meant to be a little mangly). A problem has come up though, I have glued one of the arms on to a dude, picked up another piece to do the other arm, then noticed that the shoulder pads is seriously bad. The mould isn't complete and its got gaps and stuff round the top.
Is there anything I can do to get this piece replace? Or have I voided the warranty by starting the building of the men?
Gonna be a bit annoyed if I have because I paid £25 to have a dude less :(

If its not, what can I do to attempt to get a replacement part for it?

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but its related to some of the talk here (finecast and the talk of replacing units)

It was knackered before you got it out the packet. Whether you started it or not I would say it's not fit for purpose and you can get a refund/replacement. It's not your fault that you only spotted the fault once you started work on the item, you could easily argue it wasn't obvious until then.

How would I go about getting a replacement?
Would I be able to return to the store?

Yes, or contact GW directly by phone or email and ask for a replacement.

@ MittensKittens - first you should be ashamed of your avatar, that said the fact that discovery of the defect has happened after you have started to build your model should in no way invalidate any clim you have to replacement/refund.

I would call GW customer services and explain the situation, and am certain that they will resolve it for you if their usual level of service is anything to go by.

oo - ninja'd twice!

Thanks guys. I was a bit worried that I wouldn't be able to get a replacement, so that's good :3

My main worry was that I cut it off the blister before I noticed. I was like "oh crap, they could just turn round and say "lol, you derped up and probably did it yourself. We aint replacing it".

(Un?)Luckly though, I had a look at the others.
I've found, a shoulder that have a massive gash in it, one that looks like its been cut off at the top (not by me of course, one that looks like its been snipped on the corner, a hand that looks a bit messy, tried to clean it up but failed (this was before I saw the others) and the least worst of the problems, there's one that is a bit shallow on the shoulder pad trim.

So yeah, in a box of 7 units, I've got that. Yeah, totally not happy with finecast so far. My first box of fine cast (tau sniper drones and spotter) had a very minor problem that the underside of the foot had a "blister" on it.

Gonna be avoiding finecast for a while :/

Think I'm gonna go back to the shop. I don't do well on the phone (hard of hearing and not that confident).
Plus I'm going down thursday anyway to play a quick campaign game.

Thanks for your help. Nice to know I haven't dicked myself by starting the build. Only got one didude with a glued arm. Stopped when I spotted it, shall use this as an excuse to do my berzerkers.

And @not, nahhh, MLP is awesome, shall never be ashamed of that

Edit:- I tried taking some pictures so you guys can see how bad it is. I can't take any decent pictures without it going all blurry. Sorry guys :(

Sidstyler wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:Also, without pics, this thread is severely lacking in its original purpose... to prove that Fineca$t are rubbish

I have pics to load up back up there in my post ^^^

Also, why is a miliput wash so much better? I don't see why it matters how you do it, as long as the hole gets filled in the end and doesn't look like crap.

Superglue does not fill the imperfections suitably and pools. This is then visible through a paintjob.

Greenstuff fills the holes yes. But then requires more working than a 1:1 Miliputt/Water mix. While the Miliputt wash can be sanded once dry, the Greenstuff cannot.

If you are a hobbyist who actually cares about preparing models for painting and brining these casts up to the standard they are designed for (extra crisp details, blah blah blah), then the recommended Miliputt wash is the way to go.

If you want it to look like crap, use superglue or kneadatite (Greenstuff's trade name), but do not expect to improve the imperfection substantially.

Also, to those claiming their sculpts have been "flawless" and "perfect" please supply pics.

Add me to the list,

Kaildor Draigo, crack out of the side of his shoulder pad

Wow. I went to the store to get it sorted out. No questions asked, he opened a box of plauges up before I even managed to get my backpack open to prove that I had a problem or to even prove I brought the stuff there. So GW are awesome in my books for customer service.
Sadly, there we a couple in that box that were the same way. He said he would give me both boxes so I could mix and match which COULD give me more then I brought. Didn't accept it (which I may of been a fool for doing) because I couldn't be sure until I actually sat down and made them, plus, I dislike the material, its seems crummy compared to the normal stuff. Got a box of CSM and got a little money back too.
Get some greenstuff and get inventive and I should be golden. Will be cheaper and its more reliable that the pieces won't be crappy xP

You should have taken him up on the offer. Seems like Plaguemarines should be a little deformed, the odd conversion to cover the missing/deformed part and you would have had twice as many.

Still its good that you got something else that you wanted.

Meh, I'm kinda new to this, so I didn't want to be shafted with a load of units that need a lot of work to get looking good. Plus, I would of never been truely happy with it because I look at my men and know what's wrong with them. Might be hard to notice, but I know, and that's enough for me to grind teeth

Lastly, I'm lazy, I would of never got round to actually sorting them out.

Also, as I said, I hate the finecraft material anyway, there's something offputting about it xP

So yeah, gonna do it the easy way, build my troops, and then get a GW store buddy to show me how he made his CSMs look like plauges, they looked freaking amazing with his xP

To be fair to finecast, I went and bought the new Cockatrice model on saturday, and despite the large amount of detail that the model includes (the skulls next to the tail, the wings and what-not), there wasn't a single imperfection on the thing.

Actually, none of the finecast models that me and my general gaming crew have bought have had any imperfections whatsoever, and in total we've bought quite a few.

But maybe we're just lucky.

Oh, I'm obviously not here to stop people buying finecraft, hell, I even hope people get awesome models using it
Just, my experiences haven't been so great as you can tell, so I'm going to avoid it

Well yeah, I was thinking of avoiding finecast as well until the technology improved, that was until I started organising a storm of magic game and realised that I wanted to use a Cockatrice.

I suppose it's the luck of the draw really, and If you don't need a certain model for a certain time then avoiding it until the number of miscasts decreases seems sensible.

Ordered a box of Dark Eldar Wracks last week, picked them up yesterday. I spent about two minutes going over the models looking for casting defects, finally found some pock marks on the underside (not the back, the side that will be facing the base) of the kilt of the model pictured top middle on the back of the box.



But I can't figure out whether this little mountain of resin that overtook the elbow on the one weapon arm is a design defect or a casting error. (Whatever that big, long gun is called, the elbow and about half the forearm for the arm holding it is buried in that projection of resin.)




The rest of the models are fine. I'd post more pictures, but the battery on the camera's low and I can't find the charger.

Eh, good enough to keep, I guess.

First finecast model for me in yesterday, a Ork painboy with grot orderly.

to put it plainly the thing is flawless. very intricate detail. though I will say the quality of detail is abotu the same as my metal models, and I would prefr metal to finecast given the choice. however after reading abotu all the flaws I was pleasd to see that it looked good, no missing or proken pieces and detail looked good.

the only gripe is it only came with oen base when it needs one for the painboy and one for the orderly >+< I have plenty of bases as i bought a 50 pack online from hoard-o-bits, a small gripe but if i didn't have extra bases I'd probably be callign and complaining abotu tat. not a problem with the finecast though

We are now waiting on close-up pics of 3 "perfect/flawless" Cockatrice/s?

I cannot contribute to the flaw count since I haven't bought any fine-cast miniature yet.
However, my gaming store which is quite big has taken all fine-cast miniatures from the shelf
and will no longer sell them.
The reasons are quality issues and the store manager said that the material will get harder
when its getting older and so will eventually break.

As I wanted to grab a Finecast miniature for myself, I went onto eBay and bought the first figure of Aragorn (Fellowship of the Ring version) that I saw, to compare to my metal figure. I presumed that by buying a model on eBay, particularly one that was, in fact, cheaper than the metal versions on sale, the chances of it having some flaws were fairly high (the picture given in the auction was only of the front, clearly hadn't had its flash removed, and was of low enough quality that it could easily have hidden some flaws). Imagine my surprise, then, when it arrived with almost no flaws at all. Aside from the aforementioned flash (which I think we can all accept, particularly considering how much easier it is to remove than flaws in the metal figures), the only flaws are some genuinely tiny, pin-prick indents in the front of Aragorn's arm, so small I'm happy to completely ignore them. Anyway, don't take my word for it: I've uploaded comparison shots of it and the metal figure (which I'd sadly already primed in black, so hiding some of its detail)





There are a couple of points that look like they could be flaws in the photograph: the inside of Aragorn's coat looks like it could be miscast, and it looks like there could be some warping in the figure under his right foot from the back. In the former case that's simply how it's meant to look: the casting is identical to that of the metal figure, but the black paint obscures it. In the latter case, it's actually a triangle of flash between the foot and base, which in the photograph has ended up looking like a fold. You can also see a hunk of excess resin hanging off the bottom of the cloak, which just needs to be clipped off. As for those pin-pricks I mentioned: if you squint, you can just make one out on the front of his outstretched arm, just where the inside of his elbow would be. Really noticeable, eh (there might also appear to be one on the back of his cloak, but that was actually a speck of dust on the model). In all, I'm very happy with this Finecast model - particularly as there is a clear improvement in the detail that's come through on Aragorn's face and clothes.

I doubt I'll buy any more for a good while - for the next few months I've got to focus on finishing my WOTR army, and aside from the Aragorn figure none of what I need is available in Finecast - but if I do and this thread is still ongoing I'll be sure to provide more photographs.

If you are a hobbyist who actually cares about preparing models for painting and brining these casts up to the standard they are designed for (extra crisp details, blah blah blah), then the recommended Miliputt wash is the way to go.

If you want it to look like crap, use superglue or kneadatite (Greenstuff's trade name), but do not expect to improve the imperfection substantially.

I only asked because I don't think anyone's ever told me to do a miliputt wash before. Guess I'll have to try that out.

Thanks for reminding me about my Tau tanks by the way, lol...green stuff is really hard to get looking good, I kinda gave up and have bumpy spots on my vehicles in some spots.

AvatarForm wrote:We are now waiting on close-up pics of 3 "perfect/flawless" Cockatrice/s?

The wait is over. After I took pictures and found out how to incorporate them into my posts I have finally posted them. The green stuff on the wing is there due to human error (me) when gluing the wing on, as I was doing it very late at night and needed it for a Storm of Magic game, so it's not a problem with the casting. I also realise that this first picture is not close-up but I'm too lazy to take a new picture.

wiper wrote:
There are a couple of points that look like they could be flaws in the photograph: the inside of Aragorn's coat looks like it could be miscast, and it looks like there could be some warping in the figure under his right foot from the back. In the former case that's simply how it's meant to look: the casting is identical to that of the metal figure, but the black paint obscures it. In the latter case, it's actually a triangle of flash between the foot and base, which in the photograph has ended up looking like a fold. You can also see a hunk of excess resin hanging off the bottom of the cloak, which just needs to be clipped off. As for those pin-pricks I mentioned: if you squint, you can just make one out on the front of his outstretched arm, just where the inside of his elbow would be. Really noticeable, eh (there might also appear to be one on the back of his cloak, but that was actually a speck of dust on the model). In all, I'm very happy with this Finecast model - particularly as there is a clear improvement in the detail that's come through on Aragorn's face and clothes.

yes, I can agree that the details on the fineca$t Aragorn appear sharper. However, the black metal model does not provide an accurate comparison. Comparisons with metal versions are best achieved with a neutral grey primer (Vallejo Grey is what I use).

As for the imperfections on this, you may choose to ignore them, but the act remains that they are present and do not represent accurately the level of casting that GW is advertising.

Companies like Studio McVey cast at the same scale in much higher detail without imperfections, yet they do not claim to be the "greatest blah blah blah"

Here's my Failcast Librarian that I kinda got sucked into buying. I ordered it months ago through the LGS and it finally came in. It's complete garbage. GW has dispatched a new one to me, I'll see how it goes, but I honestly have no hopes of it being any better. This model seems to the #1 most problematic. I've seen a dozen+ of this particular Failcast model and only one of the 12+ (while still containing some minor flaws) was acceptable. I speculate that the failure rate for the Terminator Librarian is something like 92%.

AvatarForm wrote:
yes, I can agree that the details on the fineca$t Aragorn appear sharper. However, the black metal model does not provide an accurate comparison. Comparisons with metal versions are best achieved with a neutral grey primer (Vallejo Grey is what I use).

I know - as I said, my metal figure was:

wiper wrote:sadly already primed in black, so hiding some of its detail

I'd primed it for painting before I'd purchased the Finecast model, never mind thought of comparing the two. I could strip it and re-prime it, but that'd mean both effort, and forking out for grey primer that I'd never otherwise use.

I picked up a Finecast Lelith last week. I must say I was pretty impressed with the level of detail and how easy it was to clean up. Of course when I was cleaning mold lines the handle on the front dagger broke, making me think that maybe I’ll just lose the whole dagger and make her fisticuff. The biggie however was the medium sized air bubble on the inside of thigh at the pantyline making her look like she’s flashing her VagJJ. At Lelith’s request no photo will be provided and Lelith is demanding I take her out for drinks before I render repairs.

I got to give my experience a 6 out of 10. Nothing I can’t repair, but at 14USD why should I have to?

-MightyG

The only problem I ams seeing is that there was only one I seemed intred in at my LFGS and it was Logan. It look good, but I already have him in the current pose, why do I need a twin?

wuestenfux wrote:I cannot contribute to the flaw count since I haven't bought any fine-cast miniature yet.
However, my gaming store which is quite big has taken all fine-cast miniatures from the shelf
and will no longer sell them.
The reasons are quality issues and the store manager said that the material will get harder
when its getting older and so will eventually break.

Has anyone else's FLGS stopped carrying the line?