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Loving the trench board man!!

JBrehaut wrote:Wow, wow, wow!

Lots of cool stuff, too much to comment on everything but,
I LOVE the obliterator (that head on it is just ace!)
And the soldering iron effect looks great, I agree on the 'organic' feel.... Nurgly goodness!

Thank you! I was hoping you'd be a fan of it and the obliterator head was just for you

dsteingass wrote:Loving the trench board man!!

Thanks dude, I really should finish it shouldn't I?

Yes please!

I'll say one thing now that WILL save you time later... On the trenches Paint the "walls" of the foam "trench" segments in your Dirt color Before adding the planks... Otherwise you WILL have a devil of a time getting the paint in to the cracks to keep the "base" color of the foam from peeking through.

Learn from my mistake... I didn't paint the "walls" first and I had to go back and remove all the planks, Paint the walls, reattach the planks, and repaint the things that had chipped as part of the removal process...

..or use an airbrush

dsteingass wrote:Yes please!

DEAL!
Done some plaster on the board, I need to go over some areas with the soldering iron just once more to smooth out some rough patches, then lay down planks on the steps and finally detailing.

Galorn wrote:I'll say one thing now that WILL save you time later... On the trenches Paint the "walls" of the foam "trench" segments in your Dirt color Before adding the planks... Otherwise you WILL have a devil of a time getting the paint in to the cracks to keep the "base" color of the foam from peeking through.

Learn from my mistake... I didn't paint the "walls" first and I had to go back and remove all the planks, Paint the walls, reattach the planks, and repaint the things that had chipped as part of the removal process...

I intend to first give it a spray, then go over the whole lot with a really thick and ruined brush, of which I own a few and dab it into the gaps and fill up all those little spaces the spray didn't touch before I start painting anything detailed. I need to get hold of planks to fill in the side gaps first though so it looks nice and square and presentable.

dsteingass wrote:..or use an airbrush

Elbow grease and a big, crummy brush works wonders.



The lictor has undergone some dramatic changes, first off were the hooved feet.

I imagine something as agile and climby as a lictor prefering to be able to grab things with its feet too, so rending claws were added to the bottom of the feet, was actually very easy. Then the reposing of the left side to grab onto the pole was a pain as I used my lesser quality plastic glue and it made more effort than progress.

Getting the lictor to sit on there comfortably while he dried was the hardest part, even with a bit of contact he is still weighty on one side but I'll fill the underside with putty. I'm not sure what to do with the base, I feel it needs a sort of infestation look to it, or perhaps just ruins from a building. Either way I hope my friend is happy with the results cos it's always been something I wanted to try and I'm at the end of pulling it off, just need to detail the big talons a bit.

Niiice! Looks badass!
Don't forget a shell hole or two, maybe some wire? Not too much of course

dsteingass wrote:Niiice! Looks badass!
Don't forget a shell hole or two, maybe some wire? Not too much of course

I didn't even think of this.. and now I'm sad that i didn't before. But I've got so many .22 casings around I can make something happen

I probably shouldn't put up pictures just yet, as the tanks are not done and look quite bad in my opinion. I was going for a certain style of painting I saw that didn't seem so over complicated but I'm having trouble making mine look the same and now I'm starting to think maybe just to let it go and do what I can.



The tanks are quite messy, but they have had a lot of paint, I started out with goblin green and yellow mixed together randomly and washed heavily on, loved it. But felt like I somehow cheated by not giving it a flat coat to start with and foolishly went over the lot with goblin green which just looks awful. A mate gave me the idea the other night of adding some dark angels and black together in a wash and going over the tanks with that and I must say it could just have saved them.

I obviously have a lot of work to do, lots of details and fleshy bits to paint and stuff like that but at least now that the base coat is done I can put attention to those.


This is the first painted marine off the ranks, I sort of winged the paint scheme but I do like it still. Simple with a bit of highlight here and there and lots of browns and greens mixed together. If the rest of them turn out as good as this I'll be very pleased.


Some tyranid swarms and objective markers I've been making for a mate, just because I like the tyranid bits and you get so many in the box.

I plan to perhaps use superglue on the rusted areas of the tanks to really bring some texture to the worn out sections, but am a little worried about the risks of doing something like that.

Still have my battleforces coming in the mail and although they are a little late, I'll be knocking out marines and tanks by the handful when they get here.

Had a few more games with my guardsmen and I think I need to start swapping stuff around to make it more optimised perhaps.

FOR THE ROT OF NURGLE!

I've been playing more games again and feeling less and less tied into considering bikers as a viable option, especially since I carry a lot of anti tank as it is (6 meltas, 7 lascannons and a multimelta) in the current 1500 list I'm trying but I've always wanted a chance to really go to town on something truely grotesque and this will be them. Just early days now but soon shall get there.


I've toned down the nurgle on these guys, but put them together so I can greenstuff areas that will be easier to paint as opposed to sculpting on arms and legs then when I fit the model together its warped or will just be untouchable by a brush, I also cut off the limbs of the possessed I had for most of the guys and turned them into the standard rank march looking nurgle marines we're all in love with secretly.


The nurgle on these isn't as keen, but I may just amp it up, however there is always a fine line to cross with this kind of thing so I'm wary.

My daemon prince also arrived and I'll be posting up pictures tomorrow after he dries and have some more work done but I am very pleased with the progress so far and can't wait to start playing games.

For a really easy rust texture add superglue to the tanks and then when its dry rub the large sand grains off.

Galorn wrote:For a really easy rust texture add superglue to the tanks and then when its dry rub the large sand grains off.

I will probably end up doing exactly this anyway, I just want to really practise on perhaps some other planks or panels first before I go trying to rust up the rhinos. Just incase I do bad.

I've been hobbying a lot less than I've been keen too, I've smashed out quite a lot of assembling and converting over the last few weeks since my battleforces arrived and now I guess it's slowing down and the adrenaline is all out of the system so now I'm trying to do more of the details on things I wasn't happy with before like the prince.



I'm very unhappy with the tears in his wings but lent my soldering iron to a friend that I prob won't get back for a while... So I tried to make do with the greenstuff and it looks bloody terrible to be honest. There is a lot of roughness on the model and the leg armor is obviously not done but it was a lot easier to do this time around compared to the first time I tried this.


If I could have dont it again, I'd have maybe cut the prince down the middle and made him thicker, also gave his gut more weight to it and general gross wounds and scars.



Rippers and some nid objectives for a friend, just as a break from marines and as I've always loved tyranids, the camera really doesn't appreciate them though.


Spent a good deal of today particularly filling up the bases for my terminators and dreads to make them a little more intimidating on the table, and with that means I'll be able to spray and start painting these too. Very excited.

Inbetween watching some movie about rings and lords I managed to really feral up the prince a bit, I thickened out his thigh armour a bit which he was in desperate need of I'm sure and also bulked up parts of his chest and tried to do all the nurgles I could think of.






And worked on the rhinos, I may need to give them both a once over to check they're at a place I'm happy with but its very cool to see how I'm learning to make better use of greenstuff even for simple endevours.


I replaced the pictures of the tyranid objectives in the last post with new ones with better lighting so you can make them out a little better. And its much more forgiving this way.

I do want to paint all my marines I have done but I'm waiting for a dedicated hobby day with some mates together and really smash out a squad or two of plague marines, because with the rough green colors and the tinbitz trim I could get them all to a basic paintjob standard in almost no time whatsoever. Keep posted!

I am slowly working through and thinking about how to paint up certain stuff, as that was my first challenge "Do I want this tinbits or a really dark boltgun metal?" Tin bits is really dull and dark and yet clearly has a metallic feel so I'm very happy with it so far. I just wanna paint some of the grosser models and go to down with some stuff.

These are the marines I have all primed up and nowhere to go because I'm working on terminators first.



The obliterator was the first model I finished as he's not in the army so no trouble if I screw it up or anything, and although I'm pretty happy with him I don't think the pictures make it look as nice as it does to the eye. Really happy how the flesh looks particularly and the head with the spots on the armor too. Just came out exactly how I imagined plague marines to.


These guys are the 2nd most done of any unit I have so far, and I really like everything but had quite an inner battle with myself about what color to do the blades for the power weapons. Eventually went with a dark red that I'll highlight up to a bright red.


I'm really enjoying painting these fellas but I have a lot of projects in limbo that I feel need finishing touches just to get them off my mind, so I may end up writing a list of all the unfinished guard models I have that just need some paint as well as the skavens I have lying around an a griffon elf rider I'm very keen to finish aswell!

I have been playing games with them now and then and I'm constantly surprised by how well the predators do, the dreadnaughts are basically stupid once in combat but for shooting, well worth their points. I'll be curious to see how they go against other things. I finally found a way to make chaos work and all I had to do was use plague marines. Ha.

The first squad of marines is pretty much done, I really dislike how much the camera brings out the edges of the washy bits, I might have to try and blend them down just a little bit, but happy either way. I LOOOVE the flesh on the champion, could not be more pleased with how he came out. I need to highlight and/or scratch up the tinbitz on the models too but a large portion is done.

I decided to go with red power weapons at the suggestion of a mate and ended up looking rather intimidating but bold enough to get attention without being super bright and blinding.

This guys face is probably the best one I've had so far, the washes settled in the perfect spots and gave his skin the perfect tone I was after.


Also attempting to paint one of these up to a nice standard just for myself really, no intention of ever starting another game system but I do love fantasy models. I also have some horsemen on the way that will be great fun to work on. Cannot wait.

No stories, just pictures.

I'll say that I feel awful even putting these up, the camera REALLY shows off every single flaw you made. :(




Guardsmen tanks are slowly pushing ahead.

Let me preface this by saying, this may seem harsh. But I am going to objectively give you some critique on these models. Now, while it might sound like I'm focusing on the bad (I will), I am doing so because, you know what I think of all your stuff already, the improvements in your painting have come in leaps and bounds. All of the stuff below looks good, but I am going to mention what I think might make it great. This does not mean I hate all the stuff, I'm just going to point out what I think could use some work.

omgitsduane wrote:No stories, just pictures.

I'll say that I feel awful even putting these up, the camera REALLY shows off every single flaw you made. :(

So far, it looks good but.. a little, bland, maybe? The fleshy parts are nice, but they are all the same, and being used all over the model detracts a little from the effect. I'm not sure what this needs, but it needs a little more. It just looks very 'green and pink'. I think I want to see some more shades, or details picked out. Maybe a little more highlighting.
The mulitmelta looks a little messy from the front, maybe clean up the barrels.
I like the verdigris, but the eyes being the same colour, makes it again look a little too 'samey'.
Not a bad start though.
I also don't really like the base, seems a bit messy, and I'm not a fan of the colour, but that's likely just a personal taste issue.

omgitsduane wrote:
Guardsmen tanks are slowly pushing ahead.

I actually really like the tanks

omgitsduane wrote:

Ths is such a cool mode, and generally looks nice.
First thing that springs to mind is, the purple wash on the metal, although nice, looks a bit messy at the moment. In some areas (mainly the armor on the lance wrist) has pooled in a bad way. Nothing a bit of tidying up can't fix, but keep an eye out for that.
The red armour is nice, but a wash might help add some depth. Maybe some edge highlighting on that too to really pop the edges. Some of the gold needs work, but I know you already know this. Maybe a brown wash would sit nicely.
The horse flesh I feel needs some work too.

All in all, good effort so far, I know these are WiP, so please don't feel I'm bashing you, just pointing out things you may have already seen, in case you missed something.
Again, keep in mind, I've pointed out negatives, not because that's all I see, but because that's what's going to help you get better, the stuff that's already good, is good!
Look forward to seeing more work

Being completely honest you aren't going to win any Golden Daemons on painting (me either for that matter). But your sculpting, layouts, terrain pieces are brilliant. Seriously, your scratchbuilds and conversions are simply fantastic. Bravo!

Though your painting is markedly improved throughout this thread, I take back my earlier comment.

Great Post!

alright although i think your painting is kind of basic imo your converting is amazing! your greenstuffing and scratchbuilding is really good!!

and finally, your terrain is what really got me hooked and subscribed to this thread!

got a question though, and i know its a noob question (yeah im a noob) but what kind of foamboard are you using? i see you use different colors. the white seems to look the most like concrete...

is the stuff your using the same as insulation board?

and where can i get it online?

As he learns about washes, dry/wetbrushing, blending, and highlights, he's going to be awesome.

Keep churning out this stuff, you're doing great!

--B.

Nice work.

JBrehaut wrote:
All in all, good effort so far, I know these are WiP, so please don't feel I'm bashing you, just pointing out things you may have already seen, in case you missed something.
Again, keep in mind, I've pointed out negatives, not because that's all I see, but because that's what's going to help you get better, the stuff that's already good, is good!
Look forward to seeing more work

I removed most of your quote to make it a bit easier to read for anyone else scrolling down. I know exactly what you mean though, I did give the armor a wash, but it still looks so messy, I suppose another hobby session is in order to finish it off?
You saw how long the entire knight took to paint, as well as the time I spent painting it alone so it wasn't a rushed job, so I'm a little disappointed its so messy still. I'll fix it up ASAP and post the lictor.

Sarpedon_702 wrote:Being completely honest you aren't going to win any Golden Daemons on painting (me either for that matter). But your sculpting, layouts, terrain pieces are brilliant. Seriously, your scratchbuilds and conversions are simply fantastic. Bravo!

Though your painting is markedly improved throughout this thread, I take back my earlier comment.

Great Post!

I'll never enter a golden daemon I feel, but I'm content with just trying to do my best on every model I get my hands on. I just didn't expect the pictures to really show things I had no idea of looking at it with the naked eye. Damn camera. But thanks for the compliments! I'll be doing more terrain after I clear off my desk.

DijnsK wrote:alright although i think your painting is kind of basic imo your converting is amazing! your greenstuffing and scratchbuilding is really good!!

and finally, your terrain is what really got me hooked and subscribed to this thread!

got a question though, and i know its a noob question (yeah im a noob) but what kind of foamboard are you using? i see you use different colors. the white seems to look the most like concrete...

is the stuff your using the same as insulation board?

and where can i get it online?

Insulation board? I am lucky enough to live about 5 kilometres from a shop that sells it in huge boards of almost any size, as well as lots of other casting materials. The white stuff I used only because it has a nice shape (as most styrofoam is built for a specific purpose) but I dislike using it at the same time. Stick to the blue stuff if you can find it.
http://www.back2base-ix.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=99
This website does sell small amounts of it at a pretty decent price, the shipping might be a killer, especially if you're from another country, but at least its a start. And save the scraps, they always come in use.
Oh and again, thanks for the compliments.

Briancj wrote:As he learns about washes, dry/wetbrushing, blending, and highlights, he's going to be awesome.

Keep churning out this stuff, you're doing great!

--B.

I actually did highlight the edges of the armor on most of the knight, it just doesn't show up. I guess blood red needs some white in it to really spring out.

progreen10 wrote:Nice work.

Thanks!

I've spent a bit more time on the knight cleaning up things I didn't like and other parts I was told I shouldn't like and fix.

I am not sure the photos really get across how much time I've put into this model, so I guess my painting skills are peaked about here, but I am still very happy with it.

One thing I am a really big fan of is the chainmail highlight on the gold, it makes it shine like the immortal emperors rotten fury.



The last one his eyes look glossy cos I just applied the paint into the holes but I am still pretty damn happy with myself and can put this model away where it will never be seen again by human eyes!

There's a lot of nice converting going on here, keep up the good work

tipios wrote:There's a lot of nice converting going on here, keep up the good work

Thanks very much! I wish I could just convert models and have them paint themselves. This is the worst part of the hobby still by far. It's rewarding but does it take some time and thinking.

I've been wanting to hobby but lately finding myself struggling more and more to get started. Last night however I did manage to detail the tanks a little and also made some terrain the other day.


Another view.
The two predators are still a while off finished, I need to make sure I clean up all the areas where the red wash leaked onto, as well as any "fleshy" areas that are not supposed to be fleshy get cleaned up. I also do want some moderate wear on the tanks and might try using sand as rust... but we'll see how happy I am to risk that when I get to the end stage.


The rhinos are looking up to scratch too. I am not so sure if I need to gloss,or should gloss the lights, but the lenses all need a gloss and maybe a quick clean up before I do that, but as with the predators they need some TLC before I can call them done.
DRIVE ME CLOSER! I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SHARPENED LIMB!
It's no award winner, but once they're done I'm hoping they look especially disgusting.

One thing I was wanting a bit of feedback on was, with some of the pores in the fleshy parts of the vehicles, to maybe fill them up with some yellow paint mixed with PVA to appear as though they're leaking puss everywhere? It's an idea that will go well with them, be easy to do and most of all make them just little bit more interesting. So feedback please.
I also want to make the holes on the hulls look organic, in that they are not bullet scratches or blasts but actually the hull mutating to push out more eyes or organs, and around the areas I would like some ideas of how to paint something to give off that impression? I was going to highlight the areas with a lighter green and go from there but any input would be greatly appreciated!


My mate has given me a bit of hassle about putting the pieces on boards because last time we had trouble getting guys to move around them, but these wont be nearly as complex and I dont picture something as great as a chapel or citadel being built on a ground floor, it needs to be a little more epic than that. Am I right?


Last for this update is the lictor I'm in love with.. Except for the big claws. I wish I had of just used normal hormagaunt talons but here we are regardless. I think it could use some sort of alien/insect camoflauge pattern on either its bone or the carapace so suggestions again, welcome. I may end up going with a slight dot pattern on the carapace and see where that takes me.
Lictors are a little like moths.
Go to the light.

So that's all from me for a little bit. Having a lot more games with plague marines and hoping to score some wins this weekend! Wish me luck.

Epic progress. I tend to base ALL of my scenery, because that allows me to build rubble and little mini-dioramas, like 'nids crawling out of a sewer (shown by a single clawed hand reaching out). Little details that make a terrain-filled table fun to play on.

omgitsduane wrote:FOR THE ROT OF NURGLE!

Are rusty bikes that are falling apart really the best idea?

Briancj wrote:Epic progress. I tend to base ALL of my scenery, because that allows me to build rubble and little mini-dioramas, like 'nids crawling out of a sewer (shown by a single clawed hand reaching out). Little details that make a terrain-filled table fun to play on.

EXACTLY! you can add more to it if it's not just pieces of walls and thats it.

progreen10 wrote:

omgitsduane wrote:FOR THE ROT OF NURGLE!

Are rusty bikes that are falling apart really the best idea?

The bikes aren't falling apart... yet.

Hey man..you've got some crazy bubbling and festering going on under the paintjob of those tanks- you might wanna have a doctor take a look at that

dsteingass wrote:Hey man..you've got some crazy bubbling and festering going on under the paintjob of those tanks- you might wanna have a doctor take a look at that

Where do I actually apply the medication to a tank?