Sisters of Battle Section on GW's Website

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**pretre**

shoggoth wrote:why would anyone buy a sisters army when its so expensive, is GW just trying their luck and selling as much metal as possible before the plastic sisters?

Although unlikely, someone could conceivably start a sisters army right now (at the height of prices) because of rarity. It's like buying bling, when you walk into a store/tournament with a brand new sisters army, people know you are loaded.

**Manchu**

Loaded with what? is the question. I've tried to steer clear of this business but the fact that my WD hasn't even arrived in the post yet is the proverbial straw. Sisters are my very favorite thing about 40k and this ... well, I'm glad I already have all (well, most) of these models and bought them when they were slightly less outrageously priced and slightly less outdated.

**pretre**

Manchu wrote:Loaded with what?

Cash.

I'll roll up to the GT in my Escalade with gold spinners and pull out my 2000 point, brand-spankin' new sisters army. People will know that I've 'made it' then.

Sisters are my very favorite thing about 40k and this ... well, I'm glad I already have all (well, most) of these models and bought them when they were slightly less outrageously priced and slightly less outdated.

Definitely. I also got most of my redemptionists and all the swooping hawk wings for my seraphim through bits service. Ahh, the 90's.

**SabrX**

pretre wrote:
Manchu wrote:Loaded with what?

Cash.

I'll roll up to the GT in my Escalade with gold spinners and pull out my 2000 point, brand-spankin' new sisters army. People will know that I've 'made it' then.

ROFL!

So Sisters of Battle has become the new status symbol amongst the 40k community?

**Lynata**

And you paint the ornamentation on their armour using this, of course.

**Augustus**

I am a member of the GW mailing lists and when I got the email for this "NEW" sisters section I was incredibly non plussed.

There's nothing new about it!

It costs a fortune to build, it has a published codes that's going to span 2 white dwarfs, it has massively expensive predominately metal models outside of tanks and they preserved the supremely irritating faith points mechanism, except made it not scale to army size at all in a dumbed down version.

The upside to all this? There won't be any sisters armies to play anymore! Surely no one will play the stupid army, because it's to expensive, now has crummy rules with a codex in 2 WDs. and is an all metal nightmare.

I suppose the only way to make it worse would be to make it all finecast...

NINE DOLLARS? I wonder what it will cost when it's in low quality resin...

Absurd.

Probably coming...

**streamdragon**

Like many people, I expect when/if (big if) we get an actual book that we will see new plastic models for the Sisters of Battle. Sure, characters like Celestine and units like the Canoness might end up in Finecast, but I highly doubt the entire line will be.

**pretre**

Augustus wrote:I am a member of the GW mailing lists and when I got the email for this "NEW" sisters section I was incredibly non plussed.

There's nothing new about it!

It costs a fortune to build, it has a published codes that's going to span 2 white dwarfs, it has massively expensive predominately metal models outside of tanks and they preserved the supremely irritating faith points mechanism, except made it not scale to army size at all in a dumbed down version.

The upside to all this? There won't be any sisters armies to play anymore! Surely no one will play the stupid army, because it's to expensive, now has crummy rules with a codex in 2 WDs. and is an all metal nightmare.

I suppose the only way to make it worse would be to make it all finecast...

NINE DOLLARS? I wonder what it will cost when it's in low quality resin...

Absurd.

Probably coming...

Way to summarize an 8 page thread.

**Augustus**

Ya, you got me, I guess I got to the party late...

**Tails9095**

Anyone think it's a big 'feth you' to Sisters players when, in the armies tab, the four advertised pieces are the ones we've had for years? Oh yea? The immolator, I'll be sure to buy one of those when I'm making me 2k$ SoB army.

**pretre**

Tails9095 wrote:Anyone think it's a big 'feth you' to Sisters players when, in the armies tab, the four advertised pieces are the ones we've had for years? Oh yea? The immolator, I'll be sure to buy one of those when I'm making me 2k$ SoB army.

No, because the armies tab randomly generates which four products it displays. The featured product is the only constant. Keep refreshing it.

Also, EVERY piece of the sisters army is years old. Some of them 10-15 years old.

**Tails9095**

I was using the immolator as an example, they should just release the new models instead of pretending that starting an army now would be a good idea.

**Augustus**

Sad to send out an 'announcement' when there weren't even any new models, kind of pointless.

Next months letter mightl be:

'OMG 40K PLAYERS WE STILL SELL TAU ALSO!'

'NEW' web section with 'SAME' images!

LOL

**Grimtuff**

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Thanks,

Manchu

**shoggoth**

To me it just seems to be some sort of scheme to get rid of old stock.

**RatBot**

shoggoth wrote:To me it just seems to be some sort of scheme to get rid of old stock.

At $70+ USD per squad... it's not a very good scheme.

**Kanluwen**

I'm just glad they finally got rid of that stupid Witchhunters tab and made it a Sisters of Battle section.

**Kroothawk**

Augustus wrote:Sad to send out an 'announcement' when there weren't even any new models, kind of pointless.

You've missed the best part: They have sent out the newsletter with the central "buy the latest WD because you need it to build up this excellent army" message, days after it sold out in USA and Germany.

And yes, SoB armies are a status symbol now: Who else owns an army whose Codex is OOP after 2 weeks

Mark my words: The next 40k rulebook and starter set will be limited to 5000 exemplars WORLDWIDE, and GW will call it a tremendous success if they sell out in a week!

**Kanluwen**

"Out of Stock" does not mean "Out of Print", Kroothawk.

Especially not when it will be made available online.

**Kroothawk**

Kanluwen wrote:"Out of Stock" does not mean "Out of Print", Kroothawk.
Especially not when it will be made available online.

I think the expression "No Longer Available" is pretty clear

And GW Germany denied that every rule in a WD will become freely available as a pdf. Not saying that there will be no Codex-pdf in the near or far future, but printing out a pdf is something different than showing a WD, given today's possibilities to manipulate pdfs.

**Kanluwen**

Kroothawk wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:"Out of Stock" does not mean "Out of Print", Kroothawk.
Especially not when it will be made available online.

I think the expression "No Longer Available" is pretty clear
And GW Germany denied that every rule in a WD will become freely available as a pdf. Not saying that there will be no Codex-pdf in the near or far future, but printing out a pdf is something different than showing a WD, given today's possibilities to manipulate pdfs.

I find it hard to believe that an army book from a White Dwarf will not be republished in its "entirety". It probably will be a few months and be missing the fluff, but isn't that how they did the Blood Angels PDF?

**Augustus**

Well, I guess at least then the codex would be effectively free, maybe to offset the cost of the army, heh.

**Kroothawk**

Kanluwen wrote:I find it hard to believe that an army book from a White Dwarf will not be republished in its "entirety". It probably will be a few months and be missing the fluff, but isn't that how they did the Blood Angels PDF?

I find it hard to believe that GW makes the WD the center of all marketing and information and then let it sell out. But there you are!

"Here is the new Terrorgheist. Want to buy it?"
"What rules does it have?"
"They are in the new WD."
"Okay, let me see."
"It is sold out"
"???"
"Erm ... well, maybe GW will rerelease the rules in the future, but I can't guarantee that. Wanna buy the Terrorghest now?"

**Augustus**

No

**Kroothawk**

Anyway, here an official response, Inquisitor_Eljer over at Warseer got from GW Customer Service:

"Thanks for writing in to us and expressing your support and concerns for the Sisters of Battle. As a Sisters player myself (I collect The Order of the Bloody Rose) I understand how passionate you can get about your favorite army.

The article in the magazine is part one of the Sisters article. The next issue of White Dwarf will have all the details for the army list itself with all the points costs and weapons options etc. While these articles can in no way compare to a full blown codex, I feel that they will provide an adequate stop gap so that Sisters players such as us can play their army in the 5th edition of Warhammer 40,000 until a new codex can be written (along with new plastic miniatures being made ). As you mentioned, the Witch Hunters codex was originally published in early 2004 for the 3rd edition of the game and doesn’t play or handle as well two editions on. We did exactly the same thing with the Blood Angels army which got an army list published in White Dwarf across two issues back in 2006. This allowed existing players to play with their army in the game until the new codex was published in February 2010.

I hope this gives you a little insight into why the new codex article has been written, and what the future may hold for the Sisters. I’m not too sure when a full codex will be written for them, but keep the faith that they haven’t been forgotten about."

At least it confirms that this is a stop-gap Codex until Sororitas get a full Codex with new plastic miniatures. And that GW is aware that it can't be compared to a full blown codex.

**AdeptSister**

I am glad that GW gave sisters some new rules and reorganized the webpage. But, I just hope that GW was not expecting an increase of SoB sales...I don't want them to think Sisters are unpopular just because people are not crazy enough to buy them at the current price point.

Lets hope that GW has realistic expectations!

**The Dwarf Wolf**

This make me remember some time ago (last year), when there was 1 month to the release of battleforce Blood Angels, Storm Raven and Furioso Dreadnought, and they just send a similar e-mail, talking about all the "new BA stuff" they have (that was just old things, from the wave before, that they where trying to sell "in the mood").

Its exactly the same, only the products are far more old, and the new products will come in some years...

Guys, it GW pis****g in your faces again, they are laughing and calling you b****s, will you open your mouths again? Will you apologize another time? C`mon, will people continue to "Mantic this" "PP" that, whyle GW do that AGAIN?!?

**IdentifyZero**

We haven't been able to get WD in since the first week. According to the rep, it sold out in the first 5 days this month. Never seen that happen in years.

**Howard A Treesong**

RatBot wrote:
shoggoth wrote:To me it just seems to be some sort of scheme to get rid of old stock.

At $70+ USD per squad... it's not a very good scheme.

Funny thing is waaaay back when GW actually did sales they dumped a fair bit of the range cheap. I had my Kyrinov and Jacobus cheap, £2 each I think, now they are £10.25!! Wish I'd got the frateris militia too but I didn't see the point at the time, now they have been OOP for ages and are seemingly quite expensive on eBay.

**Lynata**

Kroothawk wrote:Anyway, here an official response, Inquisitor_Eljer over at Warseer got from GW Customer Service:

"Thanks for writing in to us and expressing your support and concerns for the Sisters of Battle. As a Sisters player myself (I collect The Order of the Bloody Rose) I understand how passionate you can get about your favorite army.

The article in the magazine is part one of the Sisters article. The next issue of White Dwarf will have all the details for the army list itself with all the points costs and weapons options etc. While these articles can in no way compare to a full blown codex, I feel that they will provide an adequate stop gap so that Sisters players such as us can play their army in the 5th edition of Warhammer 40,000 until a new codex can be written (along with new plastic miniatures being made ). As you mentioned, the Witch Hunters codex was originally published in early 2004 for the 3rd edition of the game and doesn’t play or handle as well two editions on. We did exactly the same thing with the Blood Angels army which got an army list published in White Dwarf across two issues back in 2006. This allowed existing players to play with their army in the game until the new codex was published in February 2010.

I hope this gives you a little insight into why the new codex article has been written, and what the future may hold for the Sisters. I’m not too sure when a full codex will be written for them, but keep the faith that they haven’t been forgotten about."

At least it confirms that this is a stop-gap Codex until Sororitas get a full Codex with new plastic miniatures. And that GW is aware that it can't be compared to a full blown codex.

Thanks for posting that, Kroothawk. It is something.