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2012/03/21 13:31:37
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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The obvious solution is to simply raise the prices of printed products as a shill for the e-products. And unlike discouraging subscription to WD, there's at least an apparent method to this madness. Maybe I should apply for a job at GW home office? Nope, still too sane.
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2012/03/21 16:41:06
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Manchu wrote:The obvious solution is to simply raise the prices of printed products as a shill for the e-products.
I'm sure those plans are already in motion.
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2012/03/22 06:26:30
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Solution? Don't buy directly from BL, that's what I do. Only downside to this is that those mega expensive limited run novels are out of your reach. 
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2012/03/22 12:51:42
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Even Amazon and Barnes and Noble rarely if ever offer discounts on BL stuff.
Nice for them, I suppose!
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2012/03/22 14:43:58
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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You can generally get some pretty good deals from Play.com., if you either pre-order or get something that is 6 months old +, otherwise it's not really that much of a saving on the RRP.
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2012/03/22 14:53:07
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Alpharius wrote:Even Amazon and Barnes and Noble rarely if ever offer discounts on BL stuff.
Nice for them, I suppose!
Pacific wrote:You can generally get some pretty good deals from Play.com., if you either pre-order or get something that is 6 months old +, otherwise it's not really that much of a saving on the RRP.
Wha?
Are you guys going on a different site to me? I regularly get BL books from Amazon at about 40% off RRP. Not old stuff either, I log in every few months and pre order all the new stuff that's been added since the last time that I want to read. I think I paid just over a fiver for Know No Fear, got a gold edition print and it arrived a few days before it was officially supposed to.
I am happy to pay a premium if I can see a benefit, but the only thing I buy from BL direct is Hammer and Bolter, and the ltd edition HH novellas (and will continue to do so). You cannot simply charge a higher price than the competition with no justification for doing so, and that is essentially what BL (and to an extent, the whole organisation) do.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2012/03/22 14:57:34
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Solahma
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The US Amazon site does not offer discounts on BL mass market paperbacks, including pre-orders.
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2012/03/22 15:04:00
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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azreal13 wrote:Alpharius wrote:Even Amazon and Barnes and Noble rarely if ever offer discounts on BL stuff.
Nice for them, I suppose!
Pacific wrote:You can generally get some pretty good deals from Play.com., if you either pre-order or get something that is 6 months old +, otherwise it's not really that much of a saving on the RRP.
Wha?
Are you guys going on a different site to me? I regularly get BL books from Amazon at about 40% off RRP. Not old stuff either, I log in every few months and pre order all the new stuff that's been added since the last time that I want to read. I think I paid just over a fiver for Know No Fear, got a gold edition print and it arrived a few days before it was officially supposed to.
I am happy to pay a premium if I can see a benefit, but the only thing I buy from BL direct is Hammer and Bolter, and the ltd edition HH novellas (and will continue to do so). You cannot simply charge a higher price than the competition with no justification for doing so, and that is essentially what BL (and to an extent, the whole organisation) do.
Manchu wrote:The US Amazon site does not offer discounts on BL mass market paperbacks, including pre-orders.
So, judging by that and the flag next to your name, yes, we are on different sites! 
I'm now reading "Know No Fear" and loving it!
The "adamantium balls" comment that was a bit off-putting to Manchu is not nearly as egregious as I was afraid it was going to be especially given who was "thinking" it at that time in the story.
So far, so good.
And nice to see the Council of Nikaea (revised crappy version) causing even MORE problems for the good guys!
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2012/03/22 15:15:10
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Alpharius - Bookdepository .com or .co.uk always has discounts on BL stuff. They get their gear from GW direct and BL - which is why you will often find 2 prices and 2 listings on their site for the same book. But it is so much cheaper than buying in the store (in Aus anyway) - I've been getting books for 1/3 or so of the cover price here. Plus they give a 25% discount usually for preorders.
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2012/03/22 15:18:59
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Chapters in Canada offers discount online, 10%, on the mass market paperbacks.
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2012/03/22 17:28:05
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Alpharius wrote:azreal13 wrote:Alpharius wrote:Even Amazon and Barnes and Noble rarely if ever offer discounts on BL stuff.
Nice for them, I suppose!
Pacific wrote:You can generally get some pretty good deals from Play.com., if you either pre-order or get something that is 6 months old +, otherwise it's not really that much of a saving on the RRP.
Wha?
Are you guys going on a different site to me? I regularly get BL books from Amazon at about 40% off RRP. Not old stuff either, I log in every few months and pre order all the new stuff that's been added since the last time that I want to read. I think I paid just over a fiver for Know No Fear, got a gold edition print and it arrived a few days before it was officially supposed to.
I am happy to pay a premium if I can see a benefit, but the only thing I buy from BL direct is Hammer and Bolter, and the ltd edition HH novellas (and will continue to do so). You cannot simply charge a higher price than the competition with no justification for doing so, and that is essentially what BL (and to an extent, the whole organisation) do.
Manchu wrote:The US Amazon site does not offer discounts on BL mass market paperbacks, including pre-orders.
Alpharius wrote:So, judging by that and the flag next to your name, yes, we are on different sites!
I'm now reading "Know No Fear" and loving it!
The "adamantium balls" comment that was a bit off-putting to Manchu is not nearly as egregious as I was afraid it was going to be especially given who was "thinking" it at that time in the story.
So far, so good.
And nice to see the Council of Nikaea (revised crappy version) causing even MORE problems for the good guys!
Well, chalk that up to another mystery around GW pricing and where around the globe it get's sold, even if GW don't technically have a say in this (or do they...?)
As for KNF, have enjoyed it, but not been blown away, am in the final few pages and part of me still seems to be waiting for it to get going. Perhaps I made the fatal mistake of allowing my expectations to get built up, many on here were raving, and even Abnett himself seemed pretty pleased with it based on his Twittering, so perhaps I was simply expecting too much. Then again, I really liked Deliverance Lost, so perhaps I'm just weird..
Or perhaps anything featuring Ultras is inherantly pants.... 
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2012/03/22 17:50:59
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Anything Ultramarines Pre-Heresy/Heresy/Scourging is most definitely not pants.
And really, given how they "should" be portrayed, they really should be held in higher regard then they are.
Still, that's neither here nor there, and I cannot wait for "The Primarchs" to be released here in the States... a good month or so after the UK, I think!
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2012/03/22 20:53:37
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Alpharius wrote:Anything Ultramarines Pre-Heresy/Heresy/Scourging is most definitely not pants.
And really, given how they "should" be portrayed, they really should be held in higher regard then they are.
Still, that's neither here nor there, and I cannot wait for "The Primarchs" to be released here in the States... a good month or so after the UK, I think!
Ya, after they've snatched up all the gold copies. 
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2012/03/24 05:19:09
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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How come the new E-shorts aren't leeting me buy them?
The page just refreshes everytime I hit "buy".
EDIT: The Thread Halter strikes again!
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PM me if you want me to draw anything related to Warhmmer 40k. I will put it in my gallery for all to see.
WAAAGH! Wazrokk
Salamanders - 2000 pts 
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2012/03/26 09:22:57
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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BL's facebook page just hit 30k of "likes"
.. so, to clelebrate
30,000 Likes! As promised, here is an exclusive first look at Neil Robert's stunning new art work for the cover of a forthcoming Horus Heresy book by Nick Kyme.
.. looks kind of Isstvaan V to me...?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2012/03/26 09:26:12
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Terrifying Wraith
London, England, Holy Terra
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Alpha Legion?
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 Pirate Vampire Counts - WIP
 Feastmaster Ogre Kingdoms - WIP
 Fire Lords Space Marines - working towards 1500pts
 Word Bearers Chaos Space Marines - Modelling project
DR:90+S-G+M+B+I++Pwhfb09#-D+A+/eWD354R+++T(S)DM+ |
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2012/03/26 09:49:37
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Vulkans Helmet?
If he wore one ...
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2012/03/26 09:58:45
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Salamanders most likely.
Nick Kyme writes it & that has to be a Salamander helmet (a Firedrake's, or maybe even Vulkan's).
Alpha Legion didn't wear dark green armour (but they could also be involved in the story of course). Automatically Appended Next Post: Edit: Copied from Nick Kyme's (feb 28) blog...
Scorched Earth is next up. This is a Horus Heresy novella that won’t be limited edition but will be a forerunner to a later novel I have in the works. It’s set in the aftermath of Isstvan V and features two Salamander characters searching for Vulkan’s body amongst the ruins and devastation. Expect a cameo from one of the Iron Hands in ‘Feat of Iron’ too… Oh, and the cover by Neil Roberts is absolutely stunning. Very moody and something rather different for the Horus Heresy, not really seen before.
So there we have it.
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2012/03/26 15:40:17
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eh. Whilst I'll probably still get it (on account of it being HH and not limited edition), I'm not really a fan of Kyme's writing style and I don't really care for the Sallies, whilst the description of them "searching for Vulkan’s body amongst the ruins and devastation" doesn't suggest to me that they'll find him, so it may not exactly be a revelatory story either...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2012/03/26 15:43:00
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Solahma
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I couldn't make it through the first Kyme Salamander book.
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2012/03/26 15:59:06
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Too many names with apostrophes in the them, to be sure...
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2012/03/26 15:59:06
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I did. Can't say I was a fan though...
What did you think of Know No Fear in the end btw Manchu?
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2012/03/26 16:01:09
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Solahma
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I went on to the Aliens v. Predator novels so I haven't been reading it. I want to read it but am on a bit of a kick with the other. I'm only about 130 pages into KNF and it was dragging as I recall.
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2012/03/26 16:06:12
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I don't post meme's, but Son, I am Disappoint. 
I look forward to hearing your opinion when you do read it fully though.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2012/03/26 16:20:11
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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For folks in the US, I used to work at this place http://www.powells.com/s?kw=warhammer&class=
it is the largest independent new/used bookstore in the world. They have almost everything used very shortly after it comes out, and if you spend enough it is free shipping. The customer service is also top notch.
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2012/03/26 17:16:56
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/free-horus-heresy.html
FREE HORUS HERESY
Who wants some free Horus Heresy action?
Yeah, we thought you’d like that, so as part of Black Library’s fifteenth birthday celebrations, we’re giving you a 1,000 word preview of ‘The Crimson Fist’ by John French, handily formatted as an eBook. ‘The Crimson Fist’ is one of the novellas from the upcoming Shadows of Treachery anthology, and tells the story of Rogal Dorn’s fleet and the fate that awaited them in the Phall system, at the hands of the Iron Warriors. This story tells of the genesis of the centuries-long hatred between the Imperial Fists and the Iron Warriors and also explores the background of Sigismund, the first Emperor’s Champion.
If you’ve not read an eBook before, try it out; we think you’ll like it. All you need to do is click here and the eBook will download straight away. It will work with any eBook reader on a tablet, phone, or computer – easy.
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2012/03/26 22:29:26
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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DIDM wrote:For folks in the US, I used to work at this place http://www.powells.com/s?kw=warhammer&class=
it is the largest independent new/used bookstore in the world. They have almost everything used very shortly after it comes out, and if you spend enough it is free shipping. The customer service is also top notch.
hahaha...
i was just about to recommend Powells books...
when i lived in Portland that was where i got all my BL books...
usually used are about $5 for a softback and $17 for a hardback...
always in great condition...
anyone who comes here to Sayulita from Portland gets sent on a Powells run for me...
if friends are coming from anywhere but Portland, i have a package sent to their house...
i believe a $25 purchase gets free shipping...
i just had a friend bring me a used copy of the Rogue Trader rulebook, not a scratch on it, for $40...
now i'm just waiting for a friend coming in June...
by then there should be a copy of the Black Crusade core book for $20 off as well ...
Powellls rocks!!!
cheers
jah
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2012/03/28 08:08:14
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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More of the birthday short stories have/are being released
..and t'would seem that Mr. Roberts used crumbled cookies to get the texture of the Isstvaan landscape right.
meanwhile of interest to our American Canadian members
http://www.chestermerepubliclibrary.com/blacklibraryexpo
The Black Library Expo
October 6 & 7
Chestermere, Alberta
FULL LINEUP FOR THE EXPO:
Dan Abnett
Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Graham McNeill
Nick Kyme
James Swallow
Chris Wraight
Andy Smillie
Gav Thorpe
Tickets will go on presale Saturday 31st March at Chestermere Public Library from 10am. They are only available to those people holding an active Chestermere Public Library card, or an active membership card for any other Marigold system member library (full list here). We will then release them for general sale the following week.
Tickets are limited to five per person. It is awesome that so many of you want to buy more than that, but we think it's fairer to limit numbers.
Tickets cost $20, which buys you one admission for either saturday or sunday - not to both. Think of it like a tour; it's the exact same gig both days, and by doing it this way you've got shorter line ups for signings and more interaction on the Q&A sessions - although if you want to buy a ticket for both shows then we're cool with that too.
We're working with Black Library to finalise the seminar programs and put the finishing touches to the Expo, but if there is anything you desperately want to see happen ("How to write for Black Library", "Horus Heresy Discussion Panel", "opportunity to ask Dan how he sleeps at night after what he did to Bragg", etc) then drop me an email at BlackLibraryExpo@ChestermerePublicLibrary.com and I'll do my best to make it happen. In fact, drop me an email if you want to see a cosplay contest, demo gaming, or anything else Warhammer or 40k related as part of the event.
That's a pretty strong line up of talent their, well worth popping along if you can IMO.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2012/03/28 08:40:22
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Ya, after they've snatched up all the gold copies.
We do? I wouldn't have said so after my experience last year. Visited Manchester GW (not being from there) a good month or so after Prospero Burns was released. I was looking at the BL section when a member of staff approached me and asked me if I have PB. I said no so he told me there was a gold version left, signed by the man himself Dan Abnett! No idea why no-one had bought it
Oh and if Mr Abnett is in town go see him for sure, he's lovely, he signed my copy of Alpharius with Happy Birthday (was released on my birthday and he was in my local waterstones for a signing) and congratulated me
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2012/03/28 18:57:55
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
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Oh my...... I feel a need to do unmentionabel things with you now Scottie