Eldar rumours (Preorder pics added to first post)

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**Cypher's Sword**

Absolutionis wrote:We don't know anything about these Cataphracts. I was hoping they were centaur-Wraithguard, but it seems they;ll be wispy Spectre-legged Wraithguard.

Maybe their 'armor' comes from some flickershields or holo-fields giving them an invulnerable save. That's Eldar for Armor!

oh god I laughed so hard just now. I can't wait for plastic shining spears, even though I just bought 5 metal ones (so sad.....) all I want from this update is a HUGE list of psychic powers, I don't care if they're good or not I just want a bunch, because I'm still peeved about eveyone having more lores than me. I would even be fine with one HUGE eldar only list for Divination that you have to roll like 3d6 on.....just anything.............please..............and don't make me give up my warlocks...........................don't let........ward..........touch.........my..............................codex
(goes into hibernation until eldar release)

**Mahtamori**

Another option could be something so simple that Exarchs need their weapons upgraded. Why rename them I haven't got a clue about, but maybe the old Exarchs just do not have the correct armament.

**MandalorynOranj**

Ward won't be doing the book, Eldar are Phil Kelly's baby. All praise the Kelly, sixes be upon him.

**Kroothawk**

MandalorynOranj wrote:Ward won't be doing the book, Eldar are Phil Kelly's baby. All praise the Kelly, sixes be upon him.

Kelly once said he doesn't want to do the next Eldar Codex, so that he doesn't become the Eldar guy. Also usually noone makes two editions of a Codex in a row. But we will see. Maybe Jes will again take an active role as in the latest Dark Eldar Codex.

**Nvs**

Don't know what to think... Dark Eldar were a failure, especially with 6th edition now (in my own opinion). Him doing Eldar too would likely just continue this game down the same path it's been going down for 2 editions where Xenos are being phased out and Marines leap frog to see who can come out with the most whacked out crap next. Honestly, why give Forgeworld the Horus Heresy when we're so close to phasing out Xenos entirely?

Also not a fan of the direction they took the fluff, but since DE had nothing to build off of whereas Eldar have 20 years to look back on it should be more difficult to screw them up.

Honestly, would prefer Ward do the rules so the book may stand up to a marine codex or 2 and have someone else do the fluff like Kelly or Jes.

Jes models would be a win on all fronts of course.

**BlueDagger**

Nvs wrote:Don't know what to think... Dark Eldar were a failure, especially with 6th edition now (in my own opinion).

DE were a raging success... for GW. They got everyone to buy hundreds of dollars of raiders, witches, and venoms just to nerf the piss outta them at the edition change and make you go buy a bunch of wracks.

**H.B.M.C.**

Nvs wrote:... down the same path it's been going down for 2 editions where Xenos are being phased out...

You can't honestly believe that xenos armies are being 'phased out'. That's absurd.

**Kanluwen**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nvs wrote:... down the same path it's been going down for 2 editions where Xenos are being phased out...

You can't honestly believe that xenos armies are being 'phased out'. That's absurd.

Oh come on H.B.M.C.

Everyone knows that the Xenos armies are being put into one giant book called "Target Practice".

**Robbo97**

When do they come out???

**Bolognesus**

Eldar Man wrote:When do they come out???

Which ones? Codex:Target Practice?

**djphranq**

They aren't getting rid of jetbike armies are they? Those are wicked boss (against someone who doesn't know how to play).

**androcles138**

yes, phase out the dirty xenos...

excellent. With them gone, and there only being so many marines out there, soon it will be nothing but my beloved guard, and maybe we can start making the future less grimdark.

**Robbo97**

the new models

**MandalorynOranj**

Kroothawk wrote:
MandalorynOranj wrote:Ward won't be doing the book, Eldar are Phil Kelly's baby. All praise the Kelly, sixes be upon him.

Kelly once said he doesn't want to do the next Eldar Codex, so that he doesn't become the Eldar guy. Also usually noone makes two editions of a Codex in a row. But we will see. Maybe Jes will again take an active role as in the latest Dark Eldar Codex.

Oh, well that's unfortunate. Big fan of Kelly's stuff.

**Brother SRM**

Fayric wrote:
They are resin Exarchs renamed and sold separatly from aspects that dont seem to get updated models. I think its fair to speculate what kind of changes the Ex to Xen include. How many armies has unit leaders sold in separate blister these days?
Not to mention, they will start selling a Dire Avenger resin Exarch instead of including a multioption plastic guy in the Avenger box? Not even GW would do that for the extra buck they might get out of it.

They're not going to remove the bits from the Dire Avengers kit to reduce the option; that's absolutely ludicrous and I doubt GW wants to put someone on their payroll just to clip bits off a sprue. If these rumors are true, they're probably for exarchs with new weapon options that aren't in the codex as we know it now.

**Fayric**

Brother SRM wrote:
Fayric wrote:
They are resin Exarchs renamed and sold separatly from aspects that dont seem to get updated models. I think its fair to speculate what kind of changes the Ex to Xen include. How many armies has unit leaders sold in separate blister these days?
Not to mention, they will start selling a Dire Avenger resin Exarch instead of including a multioption plastic guy in the Avenger box? Not even GW would do that for the extra buck they might get out of it.

They're not going to remove the bits from the Dire Avengers kit to reduce the option; that's absolutely ludicrous and I doubt GW wants to put someone on their payroll just to clip bits off a sprue.

My point exactly.

Brother SRM wrote: If these rumors are true, they're probably for exarchs with new weapon options that aren't in the codex as we know it now.

Oh, thats clever, I was more inclined to dismiss the whole rumour wall. (actually, Im not beeing sarcastic. Good point).

**Robbo97**

This Is a really Interesting thread!

**Gar'Ang**

It is indeed! I am happy to read all this, now it makes me not so sad that I have decided not to buy any models from my local store until 2013

**Pyro-Druid**

...Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch

golfer pose, bends forwards and slashs upwards with a sabre, stretches other arm straight into the air, holds tri-swatiska, has snakes woven into her hair...

Were tirskeles so underused in 5th ed that people have forgotten what they look like? Actually come to think about it, I didn't get one in the banshee's finecast box.

For me something feels off about these rumours, yet at the same time that for some reason give it more credit in my mind. Still a while out though, can't wait to hear the rumours closer to release date.

**tedurur**

Nvs wrote:Don't know what to think... Dark Eldar were a failure, especially with 6th edition now (in my own opinion). Him doing Eldar too would likely just continue this game down the same path it's been going down for 2 editions where Xenos are being phased out and Marines leap frog to see who can come out with the most whacked out crap next. Honestly, why give Forgeworld the Horus Heresy when we're so close to phasing out Xenos entirely?

Also not a fan of the direction they took the fluff, but since DE had nothing to build off of whereas Eldar have 20 years to look back on it should be more difficult to screw them up.

Honestly, would prefer Ward do the rules so the book may stand up to a marine codex or 2 and have someone else do the fluff like Kelly or Jes.

Jes models would be a win on all fronts of course.

Yes, DE were a total cluster feth that noone liked and didnt have any chance to compete not to mention those darn Necron Marines that are currently kicking ass and taking names.

**Gavin Thorne**

Brother SRM wrote:
Fayric wrote:
They are resin Exarchs renamed and sold separatly from aspects that dont seem to get updated models. I think its fair to speculate what kind of changes the Ex to Xen include. How many armies has unit leaders sold in separate blister these days?
Not to mention, they will start selling a Dire Avenger resin Exarch instead of including a multioption plastic guy in the Avenger box? Not even GW would do that for the extra buck they might get out of it.

They're not going to remove the bits from the Dire Avengers kit to reduce the option; that's absolutely ludicrous and I doubt GW wants to put someone on their payroll just to clip bits off a sprue. If these rumors are true, they're probably for exarchs with new weapon options that aren't in the codex as we know it now.

I'm with you on this. From the sound of it, Xentarchs might be the new Phoenix Lords. For all the hubbub about Dragon Riders, I'm glad I'm ahead of the curve.

**gorgon**

Brother SRM wrote:If these rumors are true, they're probably for exarchs with new weapon options that aren't in the codex as we know it now.

If they aren't Phoenix Lords, maybe they're ICs in the HQ slot. Although obviously that would lead to a rather ridiculous list of HQ options. I tend to lean to them being a newish take on Phoenix Lords, which could probably use the refresh TBH.

**Arschbombe**

Pyro-Druid wrote:
Were tirskeles so underused in 5th ed that people have forgotten what they look like? Actually come to think about it, I didn't get one in the banshee's finecast box.

They didn't come in the metal box either. The only one is Jain Zar's. It's meh option without an easy way to model so of course they never got used.

**Shandara**

Only Jain Zar's triskele was acually useful, so not so strange people didn't buy tons of hers to convert normal exarchs.

**AegisGrimm**

I have an old Jain Zar that I got with a huge box of 3rd Ed Dark Eldar, and was thinking of using her in my unit of Banshees for a "normal" Exarch, but I really hate the giant 80's hairdo, not to mention the fact that I would have to run a stronger pin into her foot to offset the weak single join to the base.

I'm quite eager to see the new Eldar for my pirates list, not to mention a new Codex to fix some of the big weaknesses Eldar have. I originally bought some DE Scourges to field as counts-as savage-looking Swooping Hawks for my pirates (by counting their splinter rifles as lasblasters), but in all fairness they are probably quite a bit more useful as actual Scourges fielded as allies to give the army the benefit of their heavy weapons.

I'm still sticking with my converted Shining Spears, though even if some new sculpts are on the horizon. The new Dark Eldar jetbikes coupled with plastic Dark Elf Cold One rider lance-arms make for a damn nasty looking unit on the table, even if they aren't game-winners, and they are a dirt cheap (5 bucks added to a jetbike box) and simple arm-swap conversion to boot.

**MightyGodzilla**

AegisGrimm wrote:I have an old Jain Zar that I got with a huge box of 3rd Ed Dark Eldar, and was thinking of using her in my unit of Banshees for a "normal" Exarch, but I really hate the giant 80's hairdo, not to mention the fact that I would have to run a stronger pin into her foot to offset the weak single join to the base.

Giant 80's hairdo..lol..no wonder she falls over.

As for purging the xenos Codex: Target Practice I have a source (so add me to the rumor tracker) that I cannot disclose (of course, right) that says Codex: Taget Practice will be the second of a two part codice set. The first being Codex: Deathwatch (they're the ultimate xenos slaying Smurfs), and it will be so ridiculously OP Broken that Codex: Target Practice is actually just a 50 page sticker book. Old GW xenos art, some blank pages to stick them to, and Mad Libs for rules. Both coming out 4th quarter 2013. If you preorder Codex: Target Practice you get the GW crayons as a bonus!

**vitki**

MightyGodzilla wrote:If you preorder Codex: Target Practice you get the GW crayons as a bonus!

Nope, this is where I call salt. If you preorder, you get the option to purchase the finewax color styli for $19.99.

**battlematt**

Coming SOON!!! Codex:Target Practice Written and edited by
Matt Ward. All new model range, completely in finecast quality!
48 Easy monthly payments of 1,000$!!!!

**deleted20250424**

vitki wrote:
MightyGodzilla wrote:If you preorder Codex: Target Practice you get the GW crayons as a bonus!

Nope, this is where I call salt. If you preorder, you get the option to purchase the finewax color styli for $19.99.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris at the Memphis warehouse last night....

He said the list of colors will be; ULTRABLUE!!!, Blood of the Blood Red, DA Emo Green, Crazy Crusader Black, Netlist "Don't make me kill your Sisters" Grey (although I think it looks more silver), and some sort of mega-crayon that appears to be all the other colors melted together called DIY Pick and Choose.

I'm upset there's only 6 colors however they said a 7th would force them to make Chaos Space Marine Crayons and they couldn't fit all the Legions into one box.

I'm pretty excited about the Eldar rumors, since they are my second biggest army (around 7k last count), they are in need of some new minis/flare/excitement and so on.

**Kroothawk**

Eldar from the leaked list:

- The Avatar of Khaine (Resin Blister)
- Eldar Wraithguard / Cataphracts (Plastic Box)
- Eldar Sky Chariots / Shining Spears (Plastic Vehicle squadron box)
- Eldar Warpspiders / Everguard (Plastic Box)
- Eldar Black Warden (Resin Blister)
- Phoenix Lord Kyme'doc, The Planetwister (Resin Blister, produced in China)
- Eldar Eldritch Raiders (Plastic Box)
- Eldar Webway Gate (Terrain, Plastic, large Land Raider sized Box)
- Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart / Alean Vyper (Plastic, Vyper sized Box)
- Eldar Spirit Warrior (Plastic, large Land Raider sized Box) !
- Eldar Dragon Riders (Plastic Vehicle squadron box)
- Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch (Resin Blister)
- Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch (Resin Blister)
- Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch (Resin Blister)
- Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch (Resin Blister)
- The Avatar of the Young King (Resin Blister)
- Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber (Plastic, large Land Raider sized Box)
- Eldar Jetbikes (Plastic Vehicle squadron box)
- Eldar Warlock with Force Staff (Resin Blister)
- Eldar Swooping Hawks (Resin Blister)

And, as part of the Allies Supplement release:
- Harlequin Solitaire (Resin Blister)

Seems to confirm Xentarch name and several other things.