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2013/07/24 14:10:17
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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 Super Ready wrote:Oh, dear. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you - stage 1 of the Internet's retaliation - the hacking of an anti-net-neutrality MP's website. No doubt there'll be more to come... but for now enjoy this wonderful insight into how technically inept our legislators are.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23437473
...on Tuesday it was reported by Staines's blog that the MP's site had been breached and defaced with pornographic images.
The MP tweeted: "That well known responsible campaigner @guidofawkes has been hosting a link that distributed porn via my website."
The blogger responded to say the site did not link to the images in its story - but instead showed a screen-grab of a non-pornographic segment of the hacked page.
"Confused by technology again @claire4devizes?" Staines said.
"We deliberately didn't link to your filthy website - we just took a SFW [safe for work] screenshot."
http://order-order.com/2013/07/24/poll-result-86-of-readers-say-sue-claire-perry-guido-has-instructed-lawyers-to-commence-proceedings/
that'll be a fun case then.
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2013/07/24 15:07:03
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Relapse wrote:
I'll just leave this alone, because for some reason you are way too wrapped up in hostility about the subject, twisting what I say on some points, ignoring other things I say, and angry because I teach my kids that porn is not a good thing and why I think it is. By all means, indulge yourself in watching the stuff, I'm not trying to prevent you and stand beside you against any net censorship.
There ya go, done.
No, not wrapped up in hostility or twisting or ignoring anything. I'm not angry at you for teaching your kids that you don't like porn. Teach them that, and the reasons why you hold that opinion. I'm angry about how you are blaming lack of web safety on others, and insulting others legitimate and legal choices.
You are welcome to your opinions, but please, if you want to keep your kids safe educate yourself on Internet safety.
http://www.opendns.com/parental-controls
That will keep you safe and give you full control of what happens on your computers much better than most other ways and its free.
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 insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
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2013/07/24 19:06:25
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Agreed...
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2013/07/24 19:26:55
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Pretty sure this'll fail.
Silly government, you can't take down the internet.
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BlapBlapBlap: bringing idiocy and mischief where it should never set foot since 2011.
BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
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2013/07/26 01:25:53
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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So, did he actually make the speech in the end? I've been out of the country without internet access for two weeks and I can't be bothered trawling through all 8 pages of this thread because it looks fething boring...
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 Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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2013/07/26 01:41:50
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Powerful Orc Big'Un
Somewhere in the steamy jungles of the south...
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I'm seriously laughing at this. For some reason I can't stop and it wasn't even that funny!
...Yeah, I think I need to lay off the coffee...
~Tim?
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2013/07/26 14:50:46
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2013/07/26 15:31:19
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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I came for the UK Black porn but stayed for the disappoint.
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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2013/07/27 20:18:14
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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It's not just porn they're trying to block... Article about the below article Bigger, Wordier article It also includes Web Forums...
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.
Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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2013/07/27 20:46:08
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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...Esoteric material? Web forums?
That's it. Cameron dies soon.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
 buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2013/07/28 00:42:04
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd love to believe it, but I'm loath to jump on the "OMFG IS AWFUL!" bandwagon without knowing more about the source other than claims to have had 'brief conversations' with ISPs.
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2013/07/28 01:09:57
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I can't stop laughing. Sorry UK looks like you aint getting any wanky minutes.
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2013/07/28 01:20:03
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Hallowed Canoness
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Heh... fill the streets of London with people in Guy Fawkes masks and computers to show the PMs your displeasure! Organize and rise up! For porn! and apparently just general internet use!
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Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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2013/07/28 01:21:21
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:Heh... fill the streets of London with people in Guy Fawkes masks and computers to show the PMs your displeasure! Organize and rise up! For porn! and apparently just general internet use!
Mostly for the former 
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2013/07/28 01:41:29
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:Heh... fill the streets of London with people in Guy Fawkes masks and computers to show the PMs your displeasure! Organize and rise up! For porn! and apparently just general internet use!
Like we don't 'rise up' for porn already....
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2013/07/28 02:18:24
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:Heh... fill the streets of London with people in Guy Fawkes masks and computers to show the PMs your displeasure! Organize and rise up! For porn! and apparently just general internet use!
The part that irritates me is that there is no parliamentary vote or debate for the public to try and sway via protest, it's Cameron talking to the ISPs and them introducing this stuff voluntarily, with the threat of legislation if they refuse.
They've introduced it in a way that makes public influence virtually impossible, as the only way to stop this is with your wallet by switching to a broadband provider that doesn't block porn, which is none of them, or by convincing the government to introduce a bill to prevent this sort of thing happening, which is even more unlikely.
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2013/07/28 02:26:53
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Goliath wrote: KalashnikovMarine wrote:Heh... fill the streets of London with people in Guy Fawkes masks and computers to show the PMs your displeasure! Organize and rise up! For porn! and apparently just general internet use!
The part that irritates me is that there is no parliamentary vote or debate for the public to try and sway via protest, it's Cameron talking to the ISPs and them introducing this stuff voluntarily, with the threat of legislation if they refuse.
They've introduced it in a way that makes public influence virtually impossible, as the only way to stop this is with your wallet by switching to a broadband provider that doesn't block porn, which is none of them, or by convincing the government to introduce a bill to prevent this sort of thing happening, which is even more unlikely.
That is quite a troubling situaiton if it is true: the government is effectively taking an end-run around your rights. However, without the appropriate legislation to back up that voluntary censorship, I'd think that there is a legal case to be made that the government has infringed on your rights to free speech (even in the UK scope of it).
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2013/07/28 08:59:38
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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What even is "esoteric material?" Sucks to be Tzeentchian...
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.
Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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2013/07/28 09:02:40
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
...urrrr... I dunno
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 Avatar 720 wrote:
I'd love to believe it, but I'm loath to jump on the "OMFG IS AWFUL!" bandwagon without knowing more about the source other than claims to have had 'brief conversations' with ISPs.
Caution is certainly a good idea. That said, I think the case for this whole half-baked plan being the biggest pile of bullgak since I don't know when is already fairly solid even without the arguments made in the second article.
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2013/07/28 10:50:32
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Good on the UK, about time someone is taking a stand and protecting children. If your household wants access to porn, they can still have it. Plus there is always a way around these things...
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2013/07/28 11:26:24
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
...urrrr... I dunno
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 Rippy wrote:Good on the UK, about time someone is taking a stand and protecting children. If your household wants access to porn, they can still have it. Plus there is always a way around these things...
Okay there, Helen Lovejoy.
One: It''s the principle. What is needed is not a blanket attempt at censorship - especially as this would affect more than just spank material, as detailed by the above article, but will actually censor a tonne of things, some of which are incredibly poorly defined - but more parents who actually educate their kids properly on internet safety and supervise them when they use it. Big Dave and the State are not there to do the parent's jobs for them, nor are they there to make this kind of decision without consulting the public on the matter, which seems to be what's going on.
Two: The "protecting children" argument is the biggest crock of gak ever. It's trotted out every time the government tries to put out a thing that "there's always a way around of," and it's always a barefaced lie or a half-baked, barely thought through idea that'll just end up backfiring badly.
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2013/07/28 13:20:31
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:Heh... fill the streets of London with people in Guy Fawkes masks and computers to show the PMs your displeasure! Organize and rise up! For porn! and apparently just general internet use!
No, Guy Fawkes codpieces.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2013/07/28 13:30:13
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Rippy wrote:Good on the UK, about time someone is taking a stand and protecting children. If your household wants access to porn, they can still have it. Plus there is always a way around these things...
They're blocking proxies too.
With a Chinese Program.
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2013/07/28 16:03:52
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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Hey, welcome to 'the internet isn't actually public space'. Everything you do online and everywhere you go is owned by someone else, despite what Berners-Lee may or may not have intended. The idea that this is a freedom issue is childish nonsense. ISPs have a responsibility to society. They should be fulfilling it, for precisely the same reasons that adverts for dildos shouldn't appear in between cartoons on TV.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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2013/07/28 16:20:00
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Even if this is about protecting children (Which it may or may not be) the way they are going about this is crazy.
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2013/07/28 16:29:34
Subject: Re:UK to block porn.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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While I agree that ISPs can do what they want, the way that the government is trying to push this one past the radar is what makes it an issue for me.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.
Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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2013/07/28 16:40:33
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think this is the one thing I can be asked to write a normal letter about in my entire life.
STUPID PEOPLE, ISPS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SUCKLE YOUR CHILD BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THE REAL WORLD.
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BlapBlapBlap: bringing idiocy and mischief where it should never set foot since 2011.
BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
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2013/07/28 18:17:32
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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 BlapBlapBlap wrote:STUPID PEOPLE, ISPS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SUCKLE YOUR CHILD BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THE REAL WORLD.
Quoted for truth. Good lord, Blap. Your profile pic is terrifying if you look at it for too long.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.
Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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2013/07/28 18:22:42
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Albatross wrote:Hey, welcome to 'the internet isn't actually public space'. Everything you do online and everywhere you go is owned by someone else, despite what Berners-Lee may or may not have intended. The idea that this is a freedom issue is childish nonsense. ISPs have a responsibility to society. They should be fulfilling it, for precisely the same reasons that adverts for dildos shouldn't appear in between cartoons on TV.
In North America, you can already find commercials for dildos in between cartoons. I think Trojan has been launching a campaign that includes commercials during Family Guy and American Dad
Also: unless you are being sarcastic, your statement demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of what the Internet is and how it works, on par with Ted Stevens.
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2013/07/28 18:45:16
Subject: UK to block porn.
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Powerful Orc Big'Un
Somewhere in the steamy jungles of the south...
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 azazel the cat wrote:Albatross wrote:Hey, welcome to 'the internet isn't actually public space'. Everything you do online and everywhere you go is owned by someone else, despite what Berners-Lee may or may not have intended. The idea that this is a freedom issue is childish nonsense. ISPs have a responsibility to society. They should be fulfilling it, for precisely the same reasons that adverts for dildos shouldn't appear in between cartoons on TV.
In North America, you can already find commercials for dildos in between cartoons. I think Trojan has been launching a campaign that includes commercials during Family Guy and American Dad
Also: unless you are being sarcastic, your statement demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of what the Internet is and how it works, on par with Ted Stevens.
I don't think anyone considers Family Guy and American Dad to be kids' cartoons...
~Tim?
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