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 jreilly89 wrote:
Does anyone run a marked Daemon Prince? What do you think of him?
A solid option, great for flanking alongside drones since he can trigger their all-important locus. Massive target for mortal wounds though so he can die quickly if you aren't careful. Always take the sword.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 jreilly89 wrote:
Does anyone run a marked Daemon Prince? What do you think of him?
A solid option, great for flanking alongside drones since he can trigger their all-important locus. Massive target for mortal wounds though so he can die quickly if you aren't careful. Always take the sword.


Exactly my experience with him. He’s not massively killy, and he’ll die easier than you’d expect, but he is useful and not expensive.
   
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Has anyone taken Achaon out in 2.0 with Nurgle yet? In a non plaguetouched warband that is.
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Psh, the real way to play Nurgle is this:

GUO; Witherstave, Grandfather's Gift, Sumptuous Pestilence

10 Plaguebearers
5 Chaos Warriors
5 Chaos Warriors

War Mammoth
War Mammoth
War Mammoth
War Mammoth



Cogs


(But seriously; good luck to you! I know you are more into fun lists, but if you have trouble with Stormcast consider investing more heavily into the daemon side (as in 6x drones and a nurgling unit to get into their zone quickly for more summoning) since they have that handy ward save against mortals.)


On the subject of the Chaos War Mammoth, the updated Monsters Arcanun added the Slaves to Darkness keyword. Does this mean it has to be an ally in a nurgle list now?

I like the idea of the mammoth, especially with a harbinger of decay tossing fnp on it (or a Glotkin). So, I wanted to be sure we can still take them with a nurgle allegiance.
   
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I've been using it as part of my ally points in a 2000 point list.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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Nurgle keyword = part of the allegiance. Note that Maggotkin is not a keyword, nor is 'Blades' of Khorne or 'Disciples' of Tzeentch; these are just the names of the battletomes. The god-specific keyword is what matters. (This does lead to a weird quirk where Pestilens is an ally option but can't ever be taken as one.)

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Unintended consequence of killing the plaguetouched warband is now pestilens battalions cant be used in a nurgle army. Just realized this.

So I am going to NOVA Open again this year. Last year I was 8th overall and Runner Up best painted army! Hoping to have similar success this year. They are sold out and wait listing with about 160 players I believe. Last year was 67 lol.

This list I have been playing with lately. Not feeling to confident with it at the moment. But I like it..haha. I converted my own chaos lord on demonic mount so I REALLY want to bring him to nova. Sort of a beast to rot fly metamorphosis gone wrong (right?) with a Cell (Dragonball Z) style life/body draining appendage!



I also am just so immensly proud of my work on the glotkin I cant bring myself to remove him...

This is the list..please be brutally honest.

Allegiance: Chaos
Mortal Realm: Ghyran


The Glottkin (420)
- Lore of Malignance: Blades of Putrefaction

Gutrot Spume (140)

Festus The Leechlord (140)
- Lore of Foulness: Plague Squall

Chaos Lord On Daemonic Mount (140)
- General
- Trait: Hideous Visage
- Artefact: The Carrion Dirge
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle


40 x Chaos Marauders (200)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Units
10 x Putrid Blightkings (320)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

10 x Chaos Knights (320)
- Chaos Glaives
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Total: 2000 / 2000
Wounds: 188

Strategy:
-Gutrot takes ten kings with him. Ambushes an objective, backfield unit, sows chaos, spilts enemy forces. A solid fighting group.

-Chaos Lord on Demonic Mount (CLoDM) and the knights roll together. At -5 bravery combined, they can do some serious damage on the charge and in battleshock. CLoDM command ability is superb and makes them a great target for blades (+1 and rr charges). Another solid independent fighting group. My thoughts were to have them charge in, retreat, have one of the 5 man units step up and plug the holes, hold then enemy in place while the knights prepare for another charge.

-Glotkin and the marauders run together. He can double their attacks, wounds, cast blades on them...really whatever I need. They can be a tarpit or a mortal wound bomb. The second unit of blightkings runs behind them as backup.

Please let know your thoughts. Dont hold back on criticism. Maybe I should ditch the bravery bomb and select different artifact and command trait?? Something I get for 200 points thats better than 40 marauders? Take out Glotty???

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Plaguetouched is not dead. It can be included in Nurgle allegiance and does not have to be an ally. That is RAW; anything else is a house rule.

The battletome states "A battalion can still be a part of any allegiance that all its units have on their warscrolls." Since all the units are Nurgle, the battalion is Nurgle, thus the ally rule in regards to battalions is not triggered.

This has been unclear to others in the past so I will restate:

RAW the Plaguetouched Warband is NOT an ally to a Nurgle army; it is part of the allegiance. There are no rules anywhere which support any other conclusion. The rule in regards to ally point costs and battalions has no relation whatsoever because the Plaguetouched Warband is not an allied battalion.

Plaguetouched Warband is usable exactly as before barring an errata or house rule.

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Doesnt a new FAQ take presedence over the battletome in terms of ruling? I have emailed the FAQ team as well as the NOVA open team. GW has not got back to me. Hope NOVA allows me to use it.

No thoughts on the list?

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There are still a ton of the pro tournament guys saying you can't take it, so I just shy away from it right now until a solid FAQ comes out.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
Doesnt a new FAQ take presedence over the battletome in terms of ruling? I have emailed the FAQ team as well as the NOVA open team. GW has not got back to me. Hope NOVA allows me to use it.

No thoughts on the list?
There is no rule or FAQ that kills Plaguetouched, as there is nothing that makes it an ally. Any rule regarding allied battalions is 100% irrelevant because Plaguetouched is not an ally.

auticus wrote:
There are still a ton of the pro tournament guys saying you can't take it, so I just shy away from it right now until a solid FAQ comes out.
I can understand that, not wanting to deal with the conflict and all.


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 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
Unintended consequence of killing the plaguetouched warband is now pestilens battalions cant be used in a nurgle army. Just realized this.

So I am going to NOVA Open again this year. Last year I was 8th overall and Runner Up best painted army! Hoping to have similar success this year. They are sold out and wait listing with about 160 players I believe. Last year was 67 lol.

This list I have been playing with lately. Not feeling to confident with it at the moment. But I like it..haha. I converted my own chaos lord on demonic mount so I REALLY want to bring him to nova. Sort of a beast to rot fly metamorphosis gone wrong (right?) with a Cell (Dragonball Z) style life/body draining appendage!



I also am just so immensly proud of my work on the glotkin I cant bring myself to remove him...

This is the list..please be brutally honest.

Allegiance: Chaos
Mortal Realm: Ghyran


The Glottkin (420)
- Lore of Malignance: Blades of Putrefaction

Gutrot Spume (140)

Festus The Leechlord (140)
- Lore of Foulness: Plague Squall

Chaos Lord On Daemonic Mount (140)
- General
- Trait: Hideous Visage
- Artefact: The Carrion Dirge
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle


40 x Chaos Marauders (200)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Units
10 x Putrid Blightkings (320)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

10 x Chaos Knights (320)
- Chaos Glaives
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Total: 2000 / 2000
Wounds: 188

Strategy:
-Gutrot takes ten kings with him. Ambushes an objective, backfield unit, sows chaos, spilts enemy forces. A solid fighting group.

-Chaos Lord on Demonic Mount (CLoDM) and the knights roll together. At -5 bravery combined, they can do some serious damage on the charge and in battleshock. CLoDM command ability is superb and makes them a great target for blades (+1 and rr charges). Another solid independent fighting group. My thoughts were to have them charge in, retreat, have one of the 5 man units step up and plug the holes, hold then enemy in place while the knights prepare for another charge.

-Glotkin and the marauders run together. He can double their attacks, wounds, cast blades on them...really whatever I need. They can be a tarpit or a mortal wound bomb. The second unit of blightkings runs behind them as backup.

Please let know your thoughts. Dont hold back on criticism. Maybe I should ditch the bravery bomb and select different artifact and command trait?? Something I get for 200 points thats better than 40 marauders? Take out Glotty???
So, brutal honesty. This is a strong list that will let you go to a tournament and have some good games, but it won't be getting you in top rankings unless you luck out on matchups/double turns in your favor. You are in a decent spot in regards to mortal wound defense between runeshields & healing, but your damage output against good saves is very dependent on blades of putrefaction. A big part of any Nurgle army is that strong frontline, which means you are at risk of overextending since the Knights are such a big part of that. The Knights and Gutrot-Kings are really heavy hitters here but I would be concerned that they will be off making something very, very dead while the core of your army is simply overwhelmed. Note that with plaguetouched you had two huge things going for you; the -1 to hit making you far better at attrition, and the mortals-if-you-hit-me gimmick (with the brilliant plague priest combo) that was a significant output for mortals and that many otherwise tough opponents (particularly Stormcast) don't have much of an answer for. What this list does well is punish the opponent for making mistakes; they need to be on-top of their screens and target priority or you will dismantle them in short order. And you are a skilled player so that is doubly true; your opponent cannot afford to screw up. This goes back to my first statement, where you can go and get good games in but against opponents that do not make those mistakes it's likely to be an uphill battle.

So ultimately it's all about expectations. I strongly encourage to run with this list and enjoy games but let actual placing be secondary. Why? Because even with the best Nurgle list cheese from Seraphon, LoN, and Stormcast will still kill you, so you might as well run a fun one. Come back for the competitive angle after GW has put out some nerfs.

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Thanks Ninth! I tried it yesterday against a stormcast list. He ran a lot of the sacrosanct chamber. The gryph charger dude, 2 units of evocators, 2 units of judicators, two units of sequitors, sureheart and retirutors and another unit that had some maces I didnt recognize. Also lantern boy (Castellant? celestant? they all sound the same to me) I got to go first (my choice). Mission was duality of death.

I ran the above list but used Tamurkhans as a trial run. So CLoDM had the +1" run rolls for units wholly within 14" command trait and the demon lol flask.

I moved the cycle to stage one (+2" move). I placed my free gnarlmaw on the side with my knights. They moved, ran and charged into Lantern boi and 10 sequitors. Brought lantern boi down to 1 wound, and killed half the sequitors. I also tagged some of the evocators.. figuring thier schtik (mortal wounds) would be better directed at the knights then the rest of the army. CLoDM followed behind them but stayed on the objective. The knights dwindled over a couple turns. I would have retreated and then followed up with a blightking (5) charge but i only had a few knights left, so figured it would be better to just use the wounds soaking up damage and triggering the judicators and disabling any long range attacks. Blightkings waddled up, charged and basically shut down that flank.

Maruaders ran up as far as the objective on theother side of the board. they were made extra fleshy from glotty who wasnt far behind them. I anticipated the charge from 10 sequitors and the gryph boi. I also got shot by some hurricane vanguard! those things are dangerous. Luckily he was shooting at an 80 wound unit! Lost 7-10 in total.

Sureheart, retributors and mace guys all deep striked behind the lines and charged glotkin and festus. festus died. Glotkin down to 5 wounds. Tamurkhans didnt help when sureheart can add +3" !!!! to a charge. oh well

Glotty got the last laugh. Next turn he got blades off on the maruaders and lords of nurgle to double attacks. He didnt see it coming from the peasants. Got barbarian hordes off so about 60ish attacks doing mortals on 5s. they killed every seqitor and the gryph charger by themselves! but the retributors killd glotkin, regrouped, charged CLoDM sitting on objective. gutrot grabbed the other objective after a turn or two.. but he was able to pull out the win because it took gutrot an extra turn to get over there!!

I made some CRUCIAL errors. Should have protected CLoDM. retibutors made a 12" charge because of the +3 (+2 due to tamurkans) but I should have seen that coming.

I think the bravery bomb is WAY more potent then getting +1 to runs. Especially since the artifact is piss compared to maggotkins. More testing necessary.

I am going to try to work in horticulous because If im bringing a "fun" list to NOVA I am going to bring the gardener. I love him, love the model and spent a GREAT deal of time converting him.

Is it appropriate to track/post my nova prep lists and experiences in this thread?

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Sure go ahead, at least until I start a new one.

I'm procrastinating because I'm lazy. And busy with a narrative league. And a path to glory one. And starting an RPG campaign. And tournaments. And commissions.

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Plaguetouched Warband is officially dead in Nurgle armies. RIP. Glad to have closure

(Everchosen faq)

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/age_of_sigmar_everchosen_designers_commentary_en-1.pdf
   
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Yes I am glad we got a ruling. RAI is that they cannot be used with cult armies, something I'm totally OK with and wish it had been that way from the start. It would have been better if they errata'd it somehow since we are still left using FAQ to override RAW but that is far, far from the first time.

What isn't clear is if they intend for the rule regarding battalions in allegiances where all the models have it on their warscroll to be gone entirely. Slaves to Darkness battalions can still be used in cult armies under that rule.

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Eastern Kingdoms

So for 2.0 what are you guys liking the most for competitive play? Tournament wise what's fun but still does well enough to win?
   
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It's an interesting dynamic because much of the Rotbringer side is good or even overpowered, but do poorly at tournments due to the huge prevalence of mortal wounds. On the other hand units that are not particularly OP like plaguebearers or drones do very well for the same reason. As of now I'm not sure, because I'm not sure the meta and power lists have really shaken out yet. Especially because Nighthaunt and more importantly Stormcast are still getting model releases. That said I doubt the mortal meta will change, which means that the GUO, 30-plaguebearer, 6-drone build will remain a strong way to do. Those three units are 1040 points and give you a strong tournament baseline that should let you play around with the rest of the list and still show up without getting crushed. A Lord of Blights to hit those plaguebearers with his command ability is a fun way to turn even potent combat units pillow-fisted when they are -2 to hit said 'bearers and re-rolling 6s thanks to witherstave on the GUO (because you took the GUO with bell and witherstave).

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The list I have been rolling with great success:

Great Unclean Mr. Cuddles - bell and witherstaff
Festus - with blades of putrification spell - sits behind Cuddles to heal him
Ron Jeremy the Blightlord - runs with blight kings

30 plague bearers
30 plague bearers
10 blight kings
1 Chaos War Mammoth with mark of nurgle (Mr. Peanut) - because at 320 points he's pretty busted and OP. I'd take this even if it was 500 points because of the insane damage this thing has caused in every one of my games.

It causes people to make bad decisions over dealing with Cuddles or the mammoth.

I topped a tzeentch list last night with it. Tzaanagors are filth but my plague bearers were really the MVP that game. Especially buffed with command abilities.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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Oh yeah, I forgot that the mammoth is totally OP right now. Auto-take if you have one. Hell spammoth is probably among the strongest builds in the game for any chaos faction. But I am assuming that will be fixed in short order.

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I do happen to have one from back then never got around to painting him up haha. What is the protocol for him in a list like that? Is he used to flank and get leaders? Haven't looked at his warscroll in a while.
   
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The mammoth can destroy anything he touches. I use him to hunt other monsters (because he does his mortal wounds on 3+ instead of 4+ vs monsters) and stomp down whatever unit I feel needs to die.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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It's so ludicrously undercosted it doesn't particularly matter what you do with it.

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auticus wrote:
The list I have been rolling with great success:

Great Unclean Mr. Cuddles - bell and witherstaff
Festus - with blades of putrification spell - sits behind Cuddles to heal him
Ron Jeremy the Blightlord - runs with blight kings

30 plague bearers
30 plague bearers
10 blight kings
1 Chaos War Mammoth with mark of nurgle (Mr. Peanut) - because at 320 points he's pretty busted and OP. I'd take this even if it was 500 points because of the insane damage this thing has caused in every one of my games.

It causes people to make bad decisions over dealing with Cuddles or the mammoth.

I topped a tzeentch list last night with it. Tzaanagors are filth but my plague bearers were really the MVP that game. Especially buffed with command abilities.


Your list looks hilarious I want to try it out, few questions though, With the chaos mammoth marked I can still have access to the cycle right? Also, do you have anything breaking off to objective grab or is everything moving up the middle and you summon for objectives?? I was thinking both 30s of Plaguebearer's two columns with GUO in the middle Festy in the back moving up, While the blight boys are doubled up in column blightlord in the back moving for the flank to support charges on the Plaguebearer's, while Mammoth roams killing. Lastly for GUO are you doing Witherstave, Grandfather's Gift, Sumptuous Pestilence?

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As noted above, the GUO is using the bell and the witherstaff.

The chaos mammoth is marked nurgle, and the wheel specifies NURGLE in its keyword so yes you can use the cycle.

Even if he didn't, in 2000 points you have 400 points that can be spent on allies and the mammoth is 320 pts.

The plague bearers grab objectives. If I need them to surge forward and engage light objective holders from my opponent I use them for that and then use my summoning in turn 3 or so to bring in another unit to hold the objectives I left behind.

I use the mammoth on a flank to create a very strong flank attack. If I'm not using endless spells I'll put a beast of nurgle with him. Otherwise I have my points in endless spells, but the mammoth can trample anything on a flank.

The GUO sits in the middle with the blight kings and I move them where needed.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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That's cool to know on the mark's! still relatively new to nurgle and chaos, in general, wasn't sure how that worked. Will try it out next weekend.
   
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Came in 5th/25 at a decent sizeed RTT in Ashburn Virginia over the weekend. Highly competetive pre/practice for NOVA event. Went 2-1. Two major wins and major loss. Won best painted!! People flipped for my for my new glottkin conversion!. Picture is a bit low quality but you get the idea!

1st Ironjaws
2nd Ironjaws
3rd Ironjaws
4th TZeentch (Kaleb)
5th Me

My List and probably my NOVA list:


The Glottkin (420)
- Lore of Malignance: Blades of Putrefaction

Harbinger of Decay (160)
- General
- Trait: Grandfather's Blessing
- Artefact: The Witherstave

Lord of Blights (140)
- Artefact: Rustfang

Gutrot Spume (140)

10 x Putrid Blightkings (320)

5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

20 x Chaos Marauders (120)
- Axes & Shields
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

1 x Chaos Warshrine (160)

Blight Cyst (220)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Wounds: 151

First game was against bcr. I mean it was honestly over by turn 2. I took first turn. Gutrot and 5 kings charged 3 mournfangs which we’re sitting on right objective. I killed one I think. Burned it. One stone horn diverted to help the mournfangs and when he did I knew I won. People get so tempted and take the bait. Sure gutot and those kings died after another 1-2 turns of combat but ok. I tied down that whole side of the broad with 300 points. And got vp’s. The Huskgard and the frostlord on stonehorn (different from the one that charged gutrot) charged maruaders and 10 kings. But with them rerolling 6s to hit and wound and the blightkings 4+/5++/6++ it was a grind for them. With some disease mortal wounds and rend in kings I got all three monsters. Summoned plague bois on weak objectives and burned em. Major win. But dudes...frostlord on stonehorn with an artefact where he can’t be rend or rustfanged...??! No modifiers to 3+ save... whoa. Thanks to maruaders for putrefying him though!!

Second was against kaleb Walters (NOVA 2016 and 2017 winner) and his tzeentch army. He had a huge block of enlightened, acolytes, kairos, loc. Focal points. Enlightened charged blightkings but tried to dance around them..keeping me from piling in to many...but forcing me to chase him or retreat. Very smart. I figured I just keep getting that 3” and hit with as many as I could. Frigging fold reality (spell to get d6 enlightened back - on a 1 they all disappear though) kept bringing them back. One time he did roll the 1!!!! But he Kairos’d that dice roll hahah. I managed to get a decent early lead. He came back to tie it up. Won priority on PIVITOL turn 4 to basically seal it for me. Glottkin got a clean charge in on kairos and killed him. Hard fought major win. Kaleb is such a masterful mauever/positioning player. No room for error. To be fair my dice rolls (particularly harbinger rolls and getting 6s on kings were kind of ridiculous)

Last game against Kaleb's brother, Scooter and his Ironjaws. 18 gore gruntas, gordrakk, 3 warchantas. Some battalion that lets them move 15” free first turn. Ok I get fleshy and blades on maruaders (arcane scenery ftw) so I decided to turtle..expecting a HUGE charge with his whole army. This is where I lost the game. While my plan worked, he won on VPs as I wasnt able to catch up. I thought I would be able to table him and then catch up on VPs. One of those was right. I tabled him but couldnt catch up on VPs...

He charged in 18 gruntas and goredrak. Lol I took it all. He killed 4/5 kings. And the maruaders...but 8 kings swung and got 8 sixes paired with rustfang and rerolling wounds from shrine...I wiped out an entire squad of piggies. It was friggin awesome. I eventually killed all piggies and goredrak (turn three I believe)..problem was his warchantas took objectives after piggies boxed me in my own deployment zone. I should have rushed forward to limit him locking me so far away from objectives. Major loss...even though he only got 120 kill points (marauders)

Overall I'm happy with the list! Its incredibly resilient with most damage having to go through 4+/5++/6++ and the maruaders potentially having 40 wounds.

I cant decide between the warshrine or just 5 more blightkings for the last 160. I am inclined to take the warshrine. RR all wounds on a big block of blightkings backed up by a rustfang equipped Lord of Blights and rend -1 (cyst) is INCREDIBLY potent. But more of a OP thing (blightkings) is good.. but lacks diversity. If I run into seraphon or nighthaunt thats the hard counter. Thoughts on this??

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First off, great job and great conversion!

On to the questions, warshrine definitely. For one, the list simply does not need more blightkings. But more importantly the tournament meta is extremely heavy on mortal wounds, which are blightking's biggest weakness short of hit penalties, and the warshrine helps with that. Even with the harbinger getting all the mortal wound protection you can is going to be key (especially if he dies). Also re-rolling wound rolls is really strong with Nurgle given the abundance of 3+. The only thing I could see potentially changing is dropping the 10-man unit to 5 then using the points to get Chronomantic Cogs and leaving the remaining 100 for command points & in all likelyhood a triumph roll. This would add utility (also Glottkin with an extra spell & re-roll saves trollolol) but I am not very sure it would be worth losing the basic oomph of those blightkings. Maybe experiment if you can.

As a sidenote for almost anyone, Nurgle or no, is that if you go up against Seraphon (and they know what they are doing) you are probably going to lose regardless. So to focus listbuilding assuming you do not have to fight Seraphon may be better way to get good results depending on the proportion of Seraphon players you stand to encounter.

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New Zealand

Is the fecund rituculturalist battalion any good?
Also does the plague tree or revived plaguebearers take up points?
I'm new to. Aos

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Summoning new stuff does not cost any points, as of 2nd edition.

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Northern Virginia

bumping this thread. I recently went on a bit of Blood bowl binge. However, my last game of blood bowl re-invigorated my enthusiasm for age of sigmar HAH!

I did attend the NOVA open this past september and came in 3rd overall with a blight cyst list. Was nominated for best painted (top 10) but I had no illusions of grandeur I would win. It was just cool for Pete Foley and Vince Ventrellua to personally paint judge my army. What a thrill!

Real quick rundown.. as it was like 5 months ago and not very relevant. Went 4-1. 3 major wins, 1 minor win, 1 minor loss.

Glottkin with gift of contagion
Harbinger with witherstave, and grandfathers blessing
Lord of blights with rustfang
Gutrot

10 kings, 5 kings, 5kings, 20 marauders, warshrine, blightcyst.

Game 1. Knife to heat mission one. I won on turn three when my oppoenent moved off him home objective, I mirrorpooled Glottkin (18" teleport spell in hero phase), moved, then summoned 10 plaguebearers onto his objective. major win.

Game 2 was against my friend's skrye army. Places of arcane power. He nuked the harbinger, blocked objectives with clan rats. Glottkin failed both a mirrorpool cast and a 5" charge where either would have probably won me the game but such is life. major loss

Game three was against my friend deepkin eel list. Shifting objectives. My fleshy abundance-d, mystic shielded, with a Harbinger in range maruaders kicked ass and basically onwed the center of the board all game. Gutrot and his boys took one objective, marauders and warshrine held the middle and I ceded the third, hoping the prioirty objective would be mine with 2/3 in my control. Glotty rushed in and saved the day after volturnos and Eidollon beasted half my army on thier turn 3. Major Win

Game 4 against my friends (we had a big group go haha) LoN army. Duality. He made a vital mistake in deployment. He put vordrai b2b behind a unit of dogs, set-up sideways. So I moved and rand with marauders, and made the long charge on the dogs.. which locked vordrain in combat. Glotkin took objective. Ceded the other one. Held the Grimghasts in combat for a couple turns with 10 kings. Didnt even want to kill them, just hold them in place. Was killing enough to limit the damage to me..even if they did come back thats fine.

I offered him the minor win as I didnt think I could win. He said he wanted to go for the major. Vordrai and Glottkin were in combat with each other, but I did some significant damage to him with several -save debuffs and he was rerolling 6s to hit and wound. We rolled priority, I won, killed vordrai and took the minor win!

Game five was against... Ironjaws? I was surprised he did so well to make it to table 8 in game 5. Opponent was very nice guy. I killed his maw crusher turn one after he charged..me? with glott and 10 kings and rustfang nearby..? Game was over in 45 mins. Major win

Game 6 was againt LoN..with Nagash himself. I actually killed nagash!! A lucky vomit shooting attack from glottkin did 8 damage to him, and the blightkings with rend and a rustfang took care of the rest with a decent roll with lots of 6s. I forgot the mission. But after Nagash was gone it was over. Major win.




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With no desire to play lists with character and battalion bloat, Im working on this list. Molding and shaping it via RTTs looking forward to several GTs this year. Wife veto'd adepticon though :(

Glottkin with blades of putrefaction
gutrot
GUO with witherstave, grandfathers blessing, favoured poxes

10 kings, 5 kings, 5 kings, 5kings, 40 plague monks
1960/2000

Cogs OR +1cp??? cogs lets me go for alpha strike with monks and 10 blightkings outflanking. +1 cp lets me add attacks to monks and have an IP safety net. hmmmmm

or

Glottkin with blades of putrefaction
gutrot
Verminlord corrupter with witherstave (sword of judgement perhaps??? - 10 attacks on VLC), grandfathers blessing, and glorious afflictions

10 kings, 10 kings, 5 kings, 5kings, 40 marauders.

30 blightkings!!

Came in 2nd at a local RTT with the second list. but was mildly unimpressed. My average record for my opponents was 1-3 so not sure it was the greatest measuring stick. I think I like the first list better. Will update as I go.

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