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2019/07/19 06:53:17
Subject: Re:Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
I feel quite comfortable prejudging this movie before even seeing the trailer, since it's the latest in a franchise that hasn't released a good movie in 28 years. That's before laying eyes on CGI that I would expect from Scyfy, not a major Hollywood franchise.
Mentioning that Edward Furlong is returning doesn't improve the outlook in my mind... he's put on some country miles.
Spoiler:
But who knows. Maybe it will be an amazing story. Maybe Edward Furlong will be perfect as the embittered never-was who spent his whole life training for greatness that never came. Maybe the worst looking CGI is in the trailer, which would be an absolutely insane thing to do, but who knows.
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2019/07/19 07:28:56
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
SamusDrake wrote: According to IGN it is now confirmed that Arnold will be playing the T-800 from The Terminator(yup, the robot dude that was burnt, smashed, blown in half, crushed and had its chip and arm melted in molten lava), once again in Dark Fate and his name is now Carl...
I'm not super interested in the future war, but any thoughts on the flicker of it we saw here?
I know the Eisenhorn adaptation is unlikely to delve into the frontline battlefield stuff all that much, but if it did I wouldn't mind if it looked a lot like that...
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2019/07/20 18:04:23
Subject: Re:Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
Ouze wrote: I feel quite comfortable prejudging this movie before even seeing the trailer, since it's the latest in a franchise that hasn't released a good movie in 28 years.
Isn't this the first movie that Cameron has been involved in since T2 though? Something to do with rights reverting?
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Ouze wrote: I feel quite comfortable prejudging this movie before even seeing the trailer, since it's the latest in a franchise that hasn't released a good movie in 28 years.
Isn't this the first movie that Cameron has been involved in since T2 though? Something to do with rights reverting?
Yeah, he's producing, rather than writing or directing though. That's hard to interpret, because these days "Producer" can mean anything from actually producing - ie, "person who makes the film actually happen" to just an easy way to slap a known name on a poster.
So it's hard to know *how* involved he is, and I know some folks are understandably wary of that, after his endorsement of Genisys.
We do know he had some input in the script though, and Miller mentioned he had to get Cameron's sign off for the casting, which suggests to me he was actually reasonably hands on, that's a fairly nuts n' bolts thing to want in on.
2019/07/20 18:30:46
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
He might not be a scriptwriter, but he's done the story.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I wouldn't pin too many hopes on the "return" of Furlong's John Connor. Some supposed leaks have come out as reported on YouTube that I've spoilered below.
Spoiler:
Supposedly he is only in a short scene early on. A cgi de-aged version of him gets killed by another de-aged Arnold T-800, the one that he is playing in the trailer, and a similarly cgi Sarah witnesses it. Obviously, I can't confirm this myself so...
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2019/07/20 23:24:47
Subject: Re:Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
warboss wrote: I wouldn't pin too many hopes on the "return" of Furlong's John Connor. Some supposed leaks have come out as reported on YouTube that I've spoilered below.
Spoiler:
Supposedly he is only in a short scene early on. A cgi de-aged version of him gets killed by another de-aged Arnold T-800, the one that he is playing in the trailer, and a similarly cgi Sarah witnesses it. Obviously, I can't confirm this myself so...
Spoiler:
It was spoiled a good while ago by a chap called ViewerAnon on Reddit, who had a basically flawless record in screener leaks.
He's since deleted everything, but whatever my word is worth, I saw it while it was up, and I know his reputation for accuracy from Avengers spoilers - which he took a huge amount of flak for it, but turned out to be spot on. Basically everything else he said has also cropped up in trailers, so personally I would take his spoilers as gospel, with the caveat that the special effects in the version he would have seen are unfinished and that fake spoilers were circulated since.
Regarding that plot point in particular, it sent a lot of angry types on Reddit into a tailspin, but honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think it was absolutely necessary. So long as JC was in play, we always knew how the story was destined to end. Now we don't, which opens up the stakes altogether. He was never the core of the movies for me anyway, I'm far more interested in the effect this has on Sarah and where it leaves her.
Be wary of the other spoilers on r/Terminator, because a lot of them are junk. I don't know if anybody collected all of VA's stuff anywhere before he deleted.
2019/07/20 23:29:37
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
Thanks. I believe I was it in a Mr. H Reviews video where he referenced/mentioned the earlier rumors but I didn't investigate further myself. The inclusion of that character/actor isn't going to make or break the film for me personally.
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2019/08/30 08:28:45
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
Also hints more at the plot. As we suspected, Sarah Connor only postponed Judgement Day, and with that, heralded a 'New John Connor' messiah type - presumably the Mam of whom is the protectee here.
Really geared up to see this now. As frequent readers will know. I've found something to enjoy in every entry so far - but this is the first where the trailer is showing true promise of living up to the first two.
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Lots of explody. We'll see. Kind of done with the Terminator films.
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2019/08/30 15:44:38
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
AduroT wrote: I find it interesting that Gabriel seems to have a personality. You’re going to get one heck of a ping, my whole body’s a weapon.
Yes. One of the things that struck me from the earlier clips released was that when his endoskeleton is approaching everyone on the overpass to finish them off, it has a distinct swagger to it. It's weird but I think I like it?
2019/08/30 16:10:07
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
At least the special effects in this trailer don't look only slightly better than Sharknado so I guess that's an improvement. I'm still not excited about it and have no plans to see it. I'll comfortably wait until the reviews from sources I trust are out.
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2019/08/30 18:09:42
Subject: Re:Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
At this point...dunno. Not interested in the new killer machines, but it would be nice if the cast is having a good time regardless. That alone can sometimes save a movie.
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/08/30 18:45:28
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
The cgi is passable now, if unspectacular, although for some reason I'm really into the visual of a terminator breaking off a kroot houndy looking duplicate.
2019/08/30 19:51:49
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
General opinions about the overall quality aside, I’m just hoping the film isn’t reliant on them.
Despite the praise for the same in the first two, neither film particularly relied on them in place of plot and pacing.
Yes, they do play an important role - and for my money, The Terminator is the better use. For most of the film, they were used sparingly, but cleverly. Patching up his own face, clearly demonstrating it wasn’t even remotely human etc.
T2? The effects broadly hold up - but were used more, but then the T-1000 required them (to the point without research, I feel it was built around the effects, rather the effects built around the T-1000).
Here we’re seeing snippets of action scenes. And I feel that when you’re fighting a Terminator, those should be fairly short and sweet, certainly not overly complex and long. You can essentially screw it up enough to GTFO, take it out through *whatever*, or you die. None of those should last long on-screen.
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Seems okay I guess, though I hate the 'I'll be back'. Don't they ever come up with anything new?
I don't even bother to reason the timeline anymore as it is so messed up so I only hope the movie has good Terminator action. If Judgement Day is so inevitable, maybe just get it over with and start the fight anew?
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2019/08/30 23:50:09
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
Sarah Connor helped humanity dodge [i)a[/i] Judgement Day. But, it still happened in the end.
When? I don’t recall either trailer giving that away.
But stop, and think about what’s occurred, technologically, since T2 was released. Consider that curve heading to the future. And how much more advanced a killed AI might be accordingly.
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I'm kind of reticent but hopeful, having Sarah back might begin to put things right as everything after 2 was a downhill slide (Ms Clarke's phoned in effort doesnt count)
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2019/10/01 13:41:03
Subject: Re:Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
I gotta agree that, while improved from the first trailer months ago, the CGI is still noticeably bad several times in this more recent IMAX trailer (admittedly in Russian). I have obviously no definitive proof if the scenes have been redone or if the trailer is just reusing in part older footage though. Regardless, with T2 being such a groundbreaking movie for its time and this Malibu Stacy supposedly being the direct followup (yet again) but with a new hat (James Cameron's peripheral involvement), I can't imagine it improving that much so close to release if this is representative of the final quality.
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2019/10/03 16:57:39
Subject: Terminator 6 - Dark Fate. Now with added trailer!
We in the UK are three weeks from having the opportunity to see this.
Will defo be heading out to the cinema for this one. As mentioned umpteen times, I’ve a high tolerance for ropeiness in Terminator films, and I am intrigued by all this.
So far, nothing I’d consider overly spoilerish in the trailer - unlike T2 and Genisys in particular.
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