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Ill confess I am partly getting a small eldar attachment with a knight because I am scared of fighting one.

I mean come on look at the size of its sword, anything hit by that death machine would just get squashed by the size of it rather than sliced, it doesnt even need to have power weapon like properties, who the hell is gonna keep walking after being hit with a titan like sword?

All my Templars, DIY marines and Khorne are close combat, how the hell am I going to beat that.

The choices I'll be making for using the stocked up store credit I've got are firming up around the WG and planes.

Definitely will be getting those limited Spiritseer and Sniper models, too.

It's also nice to see that the WK's legs are jointed and somewhat poseable. Also, the arms look much better than in the initial pics, where they looked short due to the photography.

Man, that Iyanden army looks schweet. Those Wraithknights are just giantanormous.

The picture of the Wraith-Knight in Iyanden colours, striding forward with sword drawn is bad ass. Makes the kit look so much better.

Yeah, I kinda want one just because.

Perhaps someone mentioned it and I missed it but dont the tanks look a bit different in that photo? I know they said in an early rumor list we are getting a new tank chasis?

I love the wraithseer. Love the old Eldar farseer helmets and glad they are coming out with this. In others experience how hard is it usually to get these limited releases?

The WK towers above WG in the pic. Just imagine what it will look like with guardians on the field. Will need Warlocks to protect them from the ground shock walking near them! LOL!

Can't wait until someone casts invisibility on one.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Horribly long tl;dr - it's not about the total possible amount of material in existence and instead about the total amount of material available for processing at any given time. The only difference between human and Eldar manufacturing is that Eldar always have near perfect ratio balance between material supply and processing capacity, since bonesingers both produce and process wraithbone. The end effect is exactly the same - there can only be N titans, catapults, falcons or spoons produced at any given time because there's Y amount of material provided.

If you don't take the time to read then you obviously don't understand what you are talking about or the Eldar background. If you are going to argue a point or respond to another person's post, you need to read their content.

It is about the amount of material in existence because that is a limit on the Imperium but not the Eldar. That is why the Imperium had to go increase the tithes imposed on Taros, because a forgeworld had increased production needs, and that ultimately led to a campaign because Taros had had its ore depleted because it had been trading with the Tau. The limited sources of ore, limited by geography, are a limitation and it is a depletable non-renewable resource. The Eldar production is only limited by the actual production facility (i.e. the Bonesinger's capacity). There is no non-renewable resource being consumed by the Eldar production. So long as the Bonesinger can sing, wraithbone can be produced. The supply chain is therefore virtually non-existent short of feeding the Bonesinger. This matters in that it creates vulnerabilities in the Imperium's production whether due to enemy action or the normal problems of logistics and shipping.

The two production economies work under differing limitations that limit what can be done, and it is not splitting hairs. The Imperium's economy trundles along consuming all sorts of non-renewable resources. The Eldar don't. The Imperium produces on a production line. The Eldar appear to go for a craftsman approach. Their differing ways create differing effects, such as rendering Craftworlds far more self-sufficient compared to Imperial worlds reliant on endless imports to keep production up.

The same sort of limitations exist partially in the real world. An average potter making your average non-specialized pottery is not limited by clay to any realistic degree since they do not need specialized clay. Normal clay is widely available and not about to run out any time. The only limitation to pottery output would be how much work the potter can put in. Since he does not need specialized materials, he is not vulnerable to a small number of limited sources being cut off or exhausted.

The eldar are all about the fluff man... if you dont read it whats the point?

As for the BRep, I really want to know about the shuricats, did they improve or do they still suck?

Holy shiza!

I've built and painted a Dreamforge Leviathan. It's a whopping 8.5" tall or so. This model is going to be slighly taller....

That's insane for a standard table top and honestly is enough for me to grab one just for fun. I mean I bought a Leviathan that is in the same price range, why not this (and at least this comes with all the weapon options, likely).

The Wraithguard are pure win with a single clip to remove that extra fin on their heads.

Fighters are weird. Not sure I like them but I'll hold off judgement until I see it in person for proportions.

Overall looking like a solid release for Eldar, even if they doubled the cost of the Dire Avengers. But I picked up 40 of those at 20% off the current price recently.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So as to save you from clicking:

LOOK AT THAT MECH, JUST LOOK AT IT!

Someone should pose a Revenant and Phantom alongside them to complete the series of Eldar walkers. We have Wraithguard -> Wraithlord -> Wraithknight all in one shot.

I really hope that Wraithknight sword has some special rules to make it stand out rather than being the "cheap economy" weapon option. Being hit by that sword looks like it should hurt given the pose of that running Wraithknight.

Also, is that shot from the heraldry book? It shows alternative color schemes for the flyer.

Dear Lord, I got trolled. Hard. No other explanation comes to mind right now.

Anyway, the Knight looks absolutely awesome next to the mass infantry. I'm still going to make a demon engine out of it though.

OK I am now officially even more stoked for the Eldar release, and I didn't think that were possible!

Eldar shopping list for me:

Codex
power cards
one of each flyer
Wraithknight (maybe)
Wraithguard & Wraithblades (10 of each possibly)
Sniper SC
Spirit seer
Swooping Hawks (dependent on rules)

I can see the rest of my Ogre army being put on the backburner for a long while!!

Well, here's a Revenant Titan comparison with a guardian.


I reckon that the Wraithknight probably comes up to its chest

resipsa wrote:
The eldar are all about the fluff man... if you dont read it whats the point?

I have never read all of the fluff in any codex. I've tried, but to me it reads like bad fan fiction.

The point for me is playing the game, and doing some modeling and painting.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Eberious wrote:
Any pics of them with the guns, I know will be much like the ones already but still wanna.

See first post for all pics. They are found in the Wraithknight pic with ranged weapons.

A random observation but what are those round oval shaped openings on either side of the chest? They look like either intake or exhaust vents. The Revenant has jump jets and the Wraithknight seems to share the shoulder vents/intake look of the Revenant. Does the Wraithknight jump at all?

Ill check this thread again later, off to watch the xbox pre show which I did not know starts in 8 minutes, my body is not ready, farewell for now.

 whembly wrote:


For gods sake! Make 'em immune to poison. They're walking constructs ('cept for the WraithKnight?)

They had damn well better NOT be immune to poison.

unmercifulconker wrote:

resipsa wrote:
Firstworldproblemsdawg

True dat playa!

Iracundus wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Horribly long tl;dr - it's not about the total possible amount of material in existence and instead about the total amount of material available for processing at any given time. The only difference between human and Eldar manufacturing is that Eldar always have near perfect ratio balance between material supply and processing capacity, since bonesingers both produce and process wraithbone. The end effect is exactly the same - there can only be N titans, catapults, falcons or spoons produced at any given time because there's Y amount of material provided.

If you don't take the time to read then you obviously don't understand what you are talking about or the Eldar background. If you are going to argue a point or respond to another person's post, you need to read their content.

It is about the amount of material in existence because that is a limit on the Imperium but not the Eldar. That is why the Imperium had to go increase the tithes imposed on Taros, because a forgeworld had increased production needs, and that ultimately led to a campaign because Taros had had its ore depleted because it had been trading with the Tau. The limited sources of ore, limited by geography, are a limitation and it is a depletable non-renewable resource. The Eldar production is only limited by the actual production facility (i.e. the Bonesinger's capacity). There is no non-renewable resource being consumed by the Eldar production. So long as the Bonesinger can sing, wraithbone can be produced. The supply chain is therefore virtually non-existent short of feeding the Bonesinger. This matters in that it creates vulnerabilities in the Imperium's production whether due to enemy action or the normal problems of logistics and shipping.

The two production economies work under differing limitations that limit what can be done, and it is not splitting hairs. The Imperium's economy trundles along consuming all sorts of non-renewable resources. The Eldar don't. The Imperium produces on a production line. The Eldar appear to go for a craftsman approach. Their differing ways create differing effects, such as rendering Craftworlds far more self-sufficient compared to Imperial worlds reliant on endless imports to keep production up.

The same sort of limitations exist partially in the real world. An average potter making your average non-specialized pottery is not limited by clay to any realistic degree since they do not need specialized clay. Normal clay is widely available and not about to run out any time. The only limitation to pottery output would be how much work the potter can put in. Since he does not need specialized materials, he is not vulnerable to a small number of limited sources being cut off or exhausted.

I enjoyed that

zedmeister wrote:Well, here's a Revenant Titan comparison with a guardian.



I reckon that the Wraithknight probably comes up to its chest

Dude its like the guardian got his big brother to come out and fight on his behalf.

undertow wrote:

resipsa wrote:
The eldar are all about the fluff man... if you dont read it whats the point?

I have never read all of the fluff in any codex. I've tried, but to me it reads like bad fan fiction.

The point for me is playing the game, and doing some modeling and painting.

Its written by guys who are not necessarily good at fluff. I get your point on modeling, I'm similar and I started painting these things long before I started playing, but at 50 for a book you should really at least give it a read. Its like buying lobster, throwing out the meat and spanking to the shell....


Lastly, anyone see how the reapers fared and the guardians fared? How about the vehicles?

I hope the powers are decent so I can run an ulthwe list again.

It's a true love/hate relationship with GW. I thought I pretty much had everything I need with a 10,000 point painted Eldar army. I can see a couple thousand more points being bought and built. This model release......wow......

thats me sold I love the new eldar stuff. need a few flyers a few knights and few sets of wraitgaurd.

damn its going to be a very expensive month

Can the flyers be taken singly or in multiple ala vendetta?

I usually don't worry about the rules too much till the Codex is released, but I know some people can't wait:

Bell of Lost Souls
Eldar Tidal Wave (start here, don't stop - trust me)
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?26142-Eldar-Rumour-Titbits%2Fpage110

 BrassScorpion wrote:
I usually don't worry about the rules too much till the Codex is released, but I know some people can't wait:

Bell of Lost Souls
Eldar Tidal Wave (start here, don't stop - trust me)
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?26142-Eldar-Rumour-Titbits%2Fpage110

That page just quotes Dakka. lol

Any info on the subcodex? Is it truly a codex with rules, units and such? I mean, it better be since it cost just as much as the standard codex!

I'm just drooling at such possibilities for Orks! (Snakebita, EvilSunz, etc...)

 pretre wrote:

 BrassScorpion wrote:
I usually don't worry about the rules too much till the Codex is released, but I know some people can't wait:

Bell of Lost Souls
Eldar Tidal Wave (start here, don't stop - trust me)
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?26142-Eldar-Rumour-Titbits%2Fpage110

That page just quotes Dakka. lol

and poorly.

With my 4500pts of eldar I thought I had enough too, then I saw the wraithguard/blades, knight and fliers.

That was when I knew I wasn't yet done with my beloved Eldar.

Does anyone know any more rules? Like if Falcons are now DT not Heavy Support?

Darn I don't have enough money's for all my wishing. I think codex, bomber and spiritseer shall have to do till next pay day

I don't see jetbikes. Please god let there be new jetbikes.

The release details refer to a windrider squad but has anyone validated whether these are redesigns?


EDIT


OK - just seen that they're repackaged. Feels churlish to be annoyed at this given the great new stuff there is but seems like a huge missed opportunity. Fingers crossed for a second wave. the

Is that a new skimmer variant back centre of the Iyanden picture?

Can't seem to magnify the pic..