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Hey guys, Im just wondering who you think will win ard boys this year? What race do you think can produce the most beardy gooda to take down the title,"Best Cheesy List" award? Please post what race and more specifically what list you think it will be.

It would be interesting to see what people think the best list is, and then compare it to what actually wins.

I am biased I think I am going to win with my mech jet seer council eldar!!!! But you never know.

New marines will be out by then. I figure it'll be them if they can get their heads wrapped around the new codex. It's a strong list. Especially if they manage to land a successful Null Field power on you while countering fortune with their psychic hood.

New marines all the way.

They are stupid good, and the opponents wont have enough time to practice against them and master all of their numerous tricks by then.

Failing that, if Armored Company are actually allowed in the finals, then I figure that they will come out on top.

Allowed or not, unless they errata something to allow Armoured Company's tanks to score, they won't win anything as they can't control objectives. I suppose they could bring armoured fist squads, but that hurts the army's effectiveness.

Armored Fist squads are Fast Attack choices for them. To score they have to take Witch Hunter or Demon Hunter allies.

Aduro wrote:Armored Fist squads are Fast Attack choices for them. To score they have to take Witch Hunter or Demon Hunter allies.

Not true, in the forge world AC, they can take armoured infantry or whatever it is, so they can take troops in chimeras

And my money is on the best staregics with either be eldar or dark eldar with orks second

But the Ard Boyz isn't using the FW AC, it's using the one from the old WD/online pdf. So Armored Company has zero scoring units.

Imperial Armored Company will never win a tournament. They simply do not have enough close-in firepower to deal with a plethora of lists.

Any list based on 3 Landraiders.

Squats

Lemartes wrote:Any list based on 3 Landraiders.

If it's only 3, that's doubtful. I crushed a 2 LR + Sammeul in a speeder list in round one with my orks (no shooting above S7 list by the way).

4 would be extremely daunting for my army, 5+ doubtful. No enough turns for my nobz/WBs to kill them plus fight off whatever is in them/DP/DS on the table.

You had me until you mentioned Sammeul and speeders.

Try 3 LR Loaded with Plagues or Zerkers 3 more Rhinos with the same and splash in Abaddobadon for flavor. Tell me if you crush that list with orks and I will be impressed.

My votes goes to Sisters of Battle allied with Vulkan, unless they change how he works via FAQ, but this is unlikely.

Haven't we already had this discussion? How did it get over ten replies with no one mentioning orks? I feel like I'm playing an entirely seperate game from everyone sometime. Orks have the best odds at winning the 'Ardboyz tournament, because its the best codex and it scales adequately.

Sorry - I meant Sammeul was mounted in a speeder - so no shooting him with my list. Only speeder he had.

3 CSM LR would be troublesome...

But I think my list could handle it. PBs would be much worse then zerkers for me. Rhinos can be popped by almost any unit in my list. Would it be a crushing victory? highly doubtful. But I bet I could get a minor win on avg dice.

But enough bullsh*t talk - I wouldn't know until I played it.

I think most armies can handle 3 LR at 2500 points - orks being the ones most vulnerable (and maybe crons). It's when you get to 5+ that it's much more in the realm of "I win". I'm suprised that I haven't seen more of those lists being tossed about.

If I was going to bet on it, I'd put my greenBACKS on the green TIDE.

Eric

40kenthusiast wrote:Haven't we already had this discussion? How did it get over ten replies with no one mentioning orks? I feel like I'm playing an entirely seperate game from everyone sometime. Orks have the best odds at winning the 'Ardboyz tournament, because its the best codex and it scales adequately.

I'm with you here. I want to collect my ardboyz semifinal wins and free army in whatever area the new marine codex is considered 'Highly competitive and broken strong'

I think it will come down to the missions. Some armies are better at different missions then others. So don't think it will come down to what army as to what mission is being played and who the General of that paricular army is.

My votes goes to Sisters of Battle allied with Vulkan, unless they change how he works via FAQ, but this is unlikely.

This would be a scary list but probably not very likely to see it.

New Space marines with DH allies would be a crazy list!

Vulkan
1 INQ with a couple of Mystics, helm of DON'T DO THAT!, and a couple 1 point weapons mounted in a Land Raider.
2 5 man units of terminators with Heavy Flamers and 1 unit with a chainfist each mounted in a Land Raider Reedemer
2 full 10 man marine squads with flamers & Missile Launchers
3 Heavy Support Land Raiders

Thats 6 Land raiders,
10 terminators
Up to 4 scoring units of Space marines mounted in Land Raiders (just take one of the terminator Land raiders and have the Terminators deep Strike if need be for large objective Missions)

Plus 3 Twin Linked Heavy Flammers, 2 twin linked Flamers 2 twin-linked Multi Meltas on the LRR and a free shot at anything deep Striking close to you if the dice are with you.

I honestly can't think of too many ways to defeat that.

I'd take a well built he'stan army over orcs. It will prolly have enough melta's as well to take out land raiders.

groz wrote:Squats

I concur.

You guys can come up with any conjecture you want, but the army that's going to win will be Necrons again. This time in the shiny golden variety.

Orks all the way. They have the volume of players and the easy beardiness of lists.

An army with many Landraiders.

asugradinwa wrote:New Space marines with DH allies would be a crazy list!

Vulkan
1 INQ with a couple of Mystics, helm of DON'T DO THAT!, and a couple 1 point weapons mounted in a Land Raider.
2 5 man units of terminators with Heavy Flamers and 1 unit with a chainfist each mounted in a Land Raider Reedemer
2 full 10 man marine squads with flamers & Missile Launchers
3 Heavy Support Land Raiders

Thats 6 Land raiders,
10 terminators
Up to 4 scoring units of Space marines mounted in Land Raiders (just take one of the terminator Land raiders and have the Terminators deep Strike if need be for large objective Missions)

Plus 3 Twin Linked Heavy Flammers, 2 twin linked Flamers 2 twin-linked Multi Meltas on the LRR and a free shot at anything deep Striking close to you if the dice are with you.

I honestly can't think of too many ways to defeat that.

You can't take Land Raiders for both your Terminator squads, they're limited to one as a dedicated transport per type of Terminator squad. Still, it'd be 5, and that's going to take lots to bring them down.

Good point, Lets change one of those terminator Squads into a thunderhammer unit! Then you can sure have fun there & keep the land raider

Since we're talkin Land Raiders, how bout Stelek's 7 Land Raider fest Daemon Hunters?

Drop IG could do.

I beat Hordes Orks with Drop IG it wasnt easy but it can be done.

But Maybe Demons if done right. Chaos with there 2 bulids.