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If you wanted a Stompa, you had to build one yourself. But that's going to change soon - what with the introduction of the new Apocolypse Stompa from GW next year. If rumors hold, I believe this item is being introduced in March.

It is a little sad in a way since those who have owned Stompas have always been sort of an exclusive and prestigious group. Why? Because every Stompa was one of a kind - like those of the now infamous Kr00za - and having one was a testament to the owner who had proven that he could build his own one-of-a-kind.

Your thoughts - does the introduction of mass produced GW Stompas somehow cheapen this sacred circle? Is it less a badge of honor for a player who buys and konverts one of the GW Stompas? On a similar note, will tons of poorly painted GW Stompas further detract from the appeal of this monstrous and wonderful Mek Creation?

In short, what is the future for the Scratchbuilt Stompa and will it continue to hold the prestige that it now holds?

Scratch Built ones will.

Orks are unique, and so are their Stompas. To Scratch Build when you could have just bought....thats dedication!

I think it's great that those of less skill and free time can get one, and I don't feel like it diminishes the worth of scratch-builds any. Seriously, are you any less impressed by an awesomely converted SM Captain because there's a generic one in the starter?

That said, I think the Stompa was the worst possible choice for a plastic kit. I'd rather see them make all core units in plastic for all armies before doing super-heavies. And if they absolutely must make a super-heavy, I'd rather see one that isn't so easy to scratch-build, like Eldar or Tau stuff.

mmm plastic Scorpion/Cobra kit would be sweet.

Plastic Warhound would have been hillarious, just to see all the people who bought the Forgeworld one break down in tears when they realize they could have gotten it for half the price if they'd waited 8 months.

But Mad Doc and blackfang are right, a plastic Stompa is sorta, cheating. I probably wouldn't buy one, just because it'd be so much cooler to build your own.

I would buy it but never build it as a stompa, just think of all the great bits that could come with it.

you could probably make some very cool battlewagons out of it

Speaking from experience, scratch-building a super-heavy is really hard. It's well worth the effort if it turns out looking good, but a badly executed one looks even worse than a generic plastic model because of the waste of effort it represents. I know, because I built two chaos titans, and they ended up being the centerpiece for fireworks displays, which was more than they deserved. I'll definately buy at least one of the GW stompa kits, though I'll certainly add by own touches to them.

The trick, warp-crafter, is that a Chaos Titan is supposed to look like a solid, menacing hunk of ceramite with enough guns to level a small city. A stompa is supposed to look like a junk heap with legs, held together by good luck, chewing gun, rubber bands, and a couple of really, really strong grots... with enough guns to level a small city.

Ok, they're not totally dissimmilar, but Ork superheavies (or any scale scratchbuild) are much more forgiving than their Imperium/Chaos (or, god forbid, Eldar) counterparts.

Feor wrote:The trick, warp-crafter, is that a Chaos Titan is supposed to look like a solid, menacing hunk of ceramite with enough guns to level a small city. A stompa is supposed to look like a junk heap with legs, held together by good luck, chewing gun, rubber bands, and a couple of really, really strong grots... with enough guns to level a small city.

This is definitely true - the Ork Army is very forgiving when it comes to scratchbuilding. Although there are definitely some that are better than others!

Will be trying to build one of my own at some point - and I hope I can do half as well as some of the well-executed efforts on this and other boards!

Solorg

Feor wrote:The trick, warp-crafter, is that a Chaos Titan is supposed to look like a solid, menacing hunk of ceramite with enough guns to level a small city. A stompa is supposed to look like a junk heap with legs, held together by good luck, chewing gun, rubber bands, and a couple of really, really strong grots... with enough guns to level a small city.

Ok, they're not totally dissimmilar, but Ork superheavies (or any scale scratchbuild) are much more forgiving than their Imperium/Chaos (or, god forbid, Eldar) counterparts.

You're right. Also, the main problem I had with the titans was that they tend to be top-heavy, which would not be a problem with a stompa. Perhaps I'll give it a go after all. (I'm an expert at making a mess, just ask anyone!)

The Stompas need their own modular profile, not two or three types of stompa, but one stompa entry with options for the number and type of guns, klaws, extra fields, armour and hull value, even transport capacity.
Make each one more distinctive.

Depends what you mean by "badge of honor (sic)". If you think being known as the person with so much time on their hands and so little else going on in their life that they can spend the time scratch-building a ton of stuff is cool, then I guess so.

For the rest of us, having access to easy-to-make stuff means we can have more fun games without having to sacrifice any of the other stuff that really makes life worth living... like a life...

The problem I have with Ork kits is that having generic models defeats the background of their army. No two ork armies should look alike, in fact no two ork vehicles should either. And Stompas particularly so.

But there's a balance between the fluff and what is practical, I suppose the best thing it that there are lots of alternative parts to make many variations.

Off-topic: The kit can't be seen as a negative from any perspective, in my opinion. For those with skill it will serve as a source of countless bits and gubbins to be used in all manner of conversions. I personally can't wait to get my hands on a couple. Likewise it will hopefully provide an accessible, albeit pricey, Stompa solution for those in the hobby with... umm... less of a modeling focus.

Basically if the kit saves us from a few cardboard+soupcan+packing tape "stompas" (term used generously, and with tongue firmly bitten) I'll be one very happy ork.



On-topic: If there existed a club (aside from an entire forum of the sort) or camaraderie uniquely over scratch-built stompas, it will continue to exist after kits are produced.

You just have to weed out the wanna-bes with their store bought shine

yeah,
you'll be a dying breed... once the kit lands your scratch builds won't be legal or hold nearly half as much street cred.
It'll just look like a cheap pile of crap.

Same with the airfix/TMNT battle wagons ya all have got... sell em on eBay while you still might get something for them..

And this is all for the greater good IMO...

PaniC..

Panic wrote:yeah,
you'll be a dying breed... once the kit lands your scratch builds won't be legal or hold nearly half as much street cred.
It'll just look like a cheap pile of crap.

Nah, some of the scratchbuilds look so good a production model could onyl hope to match in quality.

http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/tater/mek_tater.html

or

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/213195.page;jsessionid=872FE348675B0DDC13B6745E39CCF928

It'll just look like a cheap pile of crap.

Same with the airfix/TMNT battle wagons ya all have got

Point of order: we aren't "all" that kind of ork modeler. But I get your point. A lot of ork "conversions" floating out there in the nether are really, really painful. A kit will help those folk achieve something a bit higher caliber.

But for those that are really talented modelers, their scratch builds will still continue to shine. I fully expect to see the kit stompa and have the immediate reaction of "Yeah, Ein's is still cooler." Won't diminish theirs a bit.

Now, legality in tourneys, that's a whole new wrench in the system... hadn't thought of that.

Having built two stompas already, I welcome the idea of the kit, based on the quality of the new ork stuff being produced. It'll make a great base for experienced modelers to work off of.

i'm glad there's a new ork stompa.

I rarely see good ork conversion outside of dakka, so this is a welcome addition.

wash-away wrote:i'm glad there's a new ork stompa.

I rarely see good ork conversion outside of dakka, so this is a welcome addition.

Try here.

http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25118

I love orks and I'd love a stompa, but I was born with a handfull of thumbs and little to no aptitude for crafts. It's always bugged the hell out of me that I'm expected to convert so much of my army because of GW's lazyness. So I welcome the plastic stompa with open arms. I'd prefer it if the entire ork range was complete, including special characters, for the first time in over a decade, but hey, I won't actually complain about a kick ass stompa model.

Orlanth wrote:The Stompas need their own modular profile, not two or three types of stompa, but one stompa entry with options for the number and type of guns, klaws, extra fields, armour and hull value, even transport capacity.
Make each one more distinctive.

But isn't that the point of Aporcalypse? (r included purposefully)

So, we have 3 types now that I am aware of Goff Klaw Stompa, Stompa, and Mek Stompa. I'm sure some Mekboy somewhere has cobbled the bestest bits of all three into a single mental killing Machine. Do it, build it and use it.

And remember, Apocalypse : Where only jerks say 'no'

Of course, if you have work real hard on something you might get annoyed by a ready-to-use model. Everyone would feel the same way.

BUT
Like the guy in ours group who did a scratch build baneblade. HUGE amount of work. He kinda dislike the new model. Still, the baneblade is a great model.

I can't wait for the new stompa and the new BW. I've built a BW, and while it looks good (or used, I've recently torn it apart and rebuilt part of it in a different shape), I no longer have the time to build more from stratch. With BW's now actually being good in some army builds, I want more. A plastic kit allows for that.

Same with the stompa - I don't have time to build one myself, but would like to have one.

Yeah, I have the parts for two Stompas and have had 'em for at least 3 years. Always thought I'd get around to scratchbuilding these, but never did. That's the advantage of a GW model. You assemble it and you can immediately play with it. With a Scratchbuild, the assembly can take MUCH longer especially if you want it to look good. Not everyone shines at this although with enough time, anyone can get a good result.

That's the catch though - the time.

i dont think those buy um build um stompas will really effect the scratch built ones. id imagine they will cost an arm and leg like the other titans AND IMO the stompas you normally see in a codex look awful to me. normally when i see someone scratch build one they look friggin awesome.

I, for one, welcome our new Ant Lords. I mean, Stompa Kits. I think there will be a ton of conversion opportunities so that no one Stompa won't be alike. I don't play Orks, but I think I'm going to be persuaded once the kit is released.

I would still totally scratchbuild. The kit sounds like a way to get a few good bitz though.

Steelmage99 wrote:

wash-away wrote:i'm glad there's a new ork stompa.

I rarely see good ork conversion outside of dakka, so this is a welcome addition.

Try here.

http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25118

i ment I rarely see people that can convert orks in real life.