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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 02:35:34
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Fixture of Dakka
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There have been some fairly decent games that have fallen by the wayside and been forgotten over the years. I wonder if GW were to go TU how many posters here would still play it's games?
For myself, I have enough of an investment that I think I'd just stick with running my skull laden armies, unless something so unbelievably super fantastic came along that I'd feel compelled to bid farewell to my DE.
I imagine a lot of figs would be blended into other game systems, but how many would still play 40k, fantasy ,or, gasp! LOTR?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 02:38:45
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Well, I'd find some new rules, that's for sure.
I'd probably still play though, some of the time.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 02:48:32
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Clousseau
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Heck, I'm working on using different rules for my GW figs NOW.
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Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.
I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 03:06:15
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I think the prospect of new models and rules helps keep a game going, so I feel over time interest would fade. However, most people would keep their armies and pull out the old books from time to time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 03:11:28
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Twould be a sad day if GW goes out of business. Where else would be buy overpriced and underdeveloped grim dark models and rules?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 03:35:31
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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40k would die a slow death as "communities" would spring up and try to develop
their own fan-owned rulesets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 03:42:13
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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I frequently wonder about what I would do if GW went under or rather, in twenty years will I still be playing with little painted men? Will GW still be there for me to sink my "expendable income" into? One can only hope.
If the company goes under, I think Ill just box up all my endeavors and try to forget all the hours spend on my time-sink of a hobby rather than watch the game system that I spent so much time with die slowly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 04:23:12
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Wouldn't affect me in the slightest, although I would go on a bitz buying frenzy!!
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 06:07:59
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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It wouldn't have much of an effect on me.
I've already used my existing armies with other rulesets (I've still got my combat 3000/3001 rules). I'm sure that another one will come along to slide into the space left vacant.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 07:04:31
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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I'll be the first to admit I'd be pretty pooched. I don't have a solid gaming group to build around, and I think the stores and people I play most with would shift even more radically to FOW and PP games, plus whatever new is coming down the pike.
I'd be stuck with a huge painted IG army, a huge mostly painted SM army, and a huge partially painted eldar army to either sell for pennies on the dollar or keep needlessly. I'd imagine I'll just stash them next to my old magic cards, but it would be a pretty big blow. that's a lot of time and money invested to lose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 08:44:12
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Maple Valley, Washington, Holy Terra
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malfred wrote:40k would die a slow death as "communities" would spring up and try to develop
their own fan-owned rulesets.
Yes. Just like Epic. Oh, wait.
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"Calgar hates Tyranids."
Your #1 Fan |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 10:57:43
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Stitch Counter
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Well, I'll still be playing LotR - I was playing before the films came out and I'll be playing long after GW moves on. GW provide some nice models and some good rules, but my continuing to play depends on my access to friends (and my 2 sons), not on GW's output.
I'm also a bit of a gaming whore - I play dozens of different fantasy, sci-fi, pulp and horror games. My models get recycled all the time anyhow. Not being interested in the tournament scene or playing at a GW store, GW going TU would make no odds to whether I continued to play the games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 11:37:04
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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well I'd almost certainly have to think twice about continuing my Man O'War habit....
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/12/04 11:37:44
Vompire, welcome to Dakka. Please use punctuation in the future. You’re arguments will be sign with greater merit and you’ll avoid people calling you on it.
Jfraz (MOD)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 11:38:10
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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[DCM]
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With all the minis out there either the rules would forevermore be frozen in time, or some other enterprising company would buy out the rights from the administrators and rerelease them, or just do their own fantasy combat rules system that all the models can use and people would shift to that.
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2025: Games Played:8/Models Bought:162/Sold:169/Painted:127
2024: Games Played:6/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2016-19: Games Played:369/Models Bought:772/Sold:378/ Painted:268
2012-15: Games Played:412/Models Bought: 1163/Sold:730/Painted:436 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 11:53:59
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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It would survive in one fashion or another.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the studio got together to buy out the IP from the ruins and continue on their merry way. When a company dominates the market the way GW does, a bit of corporate Necromancy is the expected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 13:54:25
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Madrak Ironhide
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Pariah Press wrote:malfred wrote:40k would die a slow death as "communities" would spring up and try to develop
their own fan-owned rulesets.
Yes. Just like Epic. Oh, wait.
Technically still alive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 14:02:59
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I don't think it would burn out or fade away. It's popular enough and there's so many people with armies out there, many with multiple armies, and with the magic of the interweb the game will stay alive forever.
Folks would come up with new rules from communities like this and people will start sculpting, casting and converting stuff to use in the game.
I'm sure if GW died tomorrow, some other company would buy the rights and keep it going in some way shape or form, even if it ends up becoming a crappy prepainted game.. I mean, there's still tons of folks playing the original battletech. I don't see GW's games being any different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 14:08:28
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Madrak Ironhide
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Necros wrote:I don't think it would burn out or fade away. It's popular enough and there's so many people with armies out there, many with multiple armies, and with the magic of the interweb the game will stay alive forever.
Folks would come up with new rules from communities like this and people will start sculpting, casting and converting stuff to use in the game.
I'm sure if GW died tomorrow, some other company would buy the rights and keep it going in some way shape or form, even if it ends up becoming a crappy prepainted game.. I mean, there's still tons of folks playing the original battletech. I don't see GW's games being any different.
Becoming a crappy prepainted game = slow death
Becoming a good prepainted game = new life
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 14:26:18
Subject: Re:If the Rug Were Pulled
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Regular Dakkanaut
Vancouver, WA
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I believe that in general, it would really vary from player to player, group to group.
For example, most groups I've been in, when a game system/company has died, even if their game was our (current) favorite, eventually it faded from our tables as we migrated to something else. The groups I've been apart of have never been GW-centric. So if a company or game goes under, we eventually bid our farewells and move on to something else. For many of us, looking forward to new releases, new rules and/or rules updates, was and is an important part of the hobby. If that possibility isn't there, that particular game/company diminishes in our eyes to some degree.
On the other hand, I've had experience with groups who ARE GW-centric. Such groups would likely, in my opinion, continue to play GW games, even if they went under. Maybe not as regularly as before, but they'd still find some way to play.
I think when it comes to a hobby where there is a serious investment of time and money, no matter what happens, there will be a certain percentage of those players who will continue with that product line long after the parent company has closed its doors, or discontinued that line.
For myself, if GW were to 'go under', I'd likely continue to play for awhile, and then eventually move on to other things.
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"Wheels within wheels, in a spiral array, a pattern so grand and complex.
Time after time we lose sight of the way, our causes can't see their effects."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 14:44:35
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If GW wents away, they product line wouldn't just disappear. Another company would buy all the intellectual property assocaiated with the Warhammer, Warhammer 40K and any other GW brand. They would then manufacture to some degree the current product lines because there is a market for at least the bigger product lines. They may close down a lot of the local GW stores and revert back to being more online and LGS based.
At least for a while, the game will still exist until such time as the new owner decides to stagnate the product, causing it to fade out, or move the product line along.
TSR used to be thought as the big boy on the corner for gaming and PNP rpgs. When MTG was proposed to them, they laughed at it and said it would never amount to anything. Today, WotC owns what's left of TSR mainly because of how successful MTG was.
In short, if GW goes under, there may be a small lapse as overhead is scaled back, but the game will still be produced in the immediate future. After years of stagnation it may fade away or may get altered in a way to make it better and have more exposure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 15:22:10
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Madrak Ironhide
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I took the OP to mean that the if game had no official support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 16:48:05
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Good camera-ebay the lot except for a few minis I would keep and put in a glass case.I already have the glass case and really just need the camera...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 17:04:14
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Madrak Ironhide
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Wouldn't the absence of a game flood the market with minis and eliminate many
potential buyers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 19:00:09
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If games workshop went down. Someone would buy it and restart it. Though helpfully change it's rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 19:16:34
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Why would someone buy it and restart it?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 20:20:54
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If GW were to fold, I'm sure the games would contine.
Probably, it picks up with an open-source, poll-driven rules system.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 22:36:00
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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I would guess that a bunch of fans would eventually buy the IP, I could see a fan group doing such a thing. (Its happened before with MMORPGS.) Especially if you get some diehards that actually have decent amounts of money. They would most likely buy the property and then either expand it in their own direction or they would invite big names from the community to either write the rules or to at least advise on them. (Looking at Yakface and the like.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/05 01:11:47
Subject: If the Rug Were Pulled
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Flashy Flashgitz
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I'd be forced to deal with Realty and Interact with OTHERS!!!!!!
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The age of man is over; the time of the Ork has come. |
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