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I had a conversation today with a friend who mentioned how many GW "armies" became unplayable. I could only think of one at the time (Squats) and now two more, Genestealer Cults and Lost and the Damned, though these were never fully fleshed out.
Still, this leads to wonder, what models now cannot be used in a game of 40k?
Oh, and "counts as" doesn't cont for this.

Squats are playable, just not a Squats. They make great super tough, slow guardsmen.

There are always Zoats and Squig Swarms, now very extinct tyranid Genii

Cryx. Cryx are unplayable in 40k.

2/3 of the IG codex

They are legal, so it wouldn't really fit the topic, but some of it is just that bad.

Counts as doesn't count, fair enough:

I have zzap gun trukks from my old kult-of-speed army:



Sonic Terminators from the old Chaos codex:


While we're on that topic, Sonic Dreadnoughts too (see icon).

But I guess those were all conversions of things found in codexes, not actual gw models...

there are hundreds if not thousands of past options that are no longer playable. most of these you had to make models for but if you did you are screwed.

Anything Imperial on a Jetbike.

The old Land Raider with an autocannon, in addition to the godhammers and twin heavy bolters.

dietrich wrote:The old Land Raider with an autocannon, in addition to the godhammers and twin heavy bolters.

That what now?

Space Slann cannot be played any more. I don't think that they ever had a proper army list, mind you.

All Harlequin army.

Tyranid Mind Slaves
Space Marines with Shuirken catapults
Eldar with Lasguns
Human Astropaths
Genestealer Hybrids
Genestealer Patriarch
the Old Undead Dragon featured in 'How to Paint miniatures' (as it was Ral Partha i believe)
Imperial Beastmen

Orks with imperial weapons. I usually proxy them into games as big shootas or kustom mega blasta, but they're not official. This is a biggie IMHO, most of the rest are sort of small potatoes, but this is almost an entire range.

The original marine dread is a little iffy. I still play with mine, but nobody recognizes it as a GW model, or knows what it's armed with.

Boar Boyz are clean out of the current 'dex.

Runtbotz are useless.

All races robots have been removed.

That's just off the top of my head. I've also got a ton of models that were in the original game that work without any issues. For a 20 year old game they're doing pretty well!

theHandofGork wrote:I could only think of one at the time (Squats) and now two more, Genestealer Cults and Lost and the Damned, though these were never fully fleshed out.

Genestealer Cults got an actual list in the 2nd Ed Tyranid Codex. Lost & The Damned have had two lists, in the 2nd Ed Chaos Codex and in Codex: Eye of Terror. They were certainly fleshed out...

BYE

Harlequins exist in the new dex so they are playable. The harlequin self-contained army is dead along with the such models as:
Solitaire
Harlequin jetbikes
converted Venom skimmers

Kroot merc list

Id say any model that looks like it was thrown into a microwave (IE 99% of rogue trader era models) should be unplayable..

But that's me, I like good looking models

H.B.M.C. wrote:

theHandofGork wrote:I could only think of one at the time (Squats) and now two more, Genestealer Cults and Lost and the Damned, though these were never fully fleshed out.

Genestealer Cults got an actual list in the 2nd Ed Tyranid Codex. Lost & The Damned have had two lists, in the 2nd Ed Chaos Codex and in Codex: Eye of Terror. They were certainly fleshed out...

BYE

I stand corrected.

Tinbots (sniff).
All of my Rogue Trader Orks with plasma guns(sniff, sniff).

utan wrote:Harlequins exist in the new dex so they are playable. The harlequin self-contained army is dead along with the such models as:
Solitaire
Harlequin jetbikes
converted Venom skimmers

You forgot:
Harlie avatar (basically an upgraded troupe master with a sperate model)
converted harlie dreadnought


Stealer cults were also in RT, I've got the old issue of white dwarf which featured them somewhere around here.

Adding to the list:
Cypher
Human Bombs
Cyclone terminators with targeter
Old imperial assassins
Imperial preacher special characters
Most old Guard Special characters
Tyranid Special characters
Drunken marine
Santa
Marines riding lizards
Genestealer familiars
Familiars for Space marine librarians (came out in 4th, killed in 5th)
Thrall wizards for 1k sons
Iron warriors basilisk

Kirasu wrote:Id say any model that looks like it was thrown into a microwave (IE 99% of rogue trader era models) should be unplayable..

But that's me, I like good looking models

You obviously have a limited knowledge of the RT range, everything sculpted by Jes Goodwin still looks fine as do lots of others. Sure the RT range was patchy, more so than the current range but there were many sweet RT sculpts.

Imperial Guard beastmen

Imperial Guard predators, IG land speeders, IG land raiders................ Techmarine squads, commissar training squads, IG human bombs

Zip Napalm wrote:
All of my Rogue Trader Orks with plasma guns(sniff, sniff).

I usually use those as shoota boyz, and nobody blinks an eye.

Chaos Bloodslaughterer Of Khorne.

Had a mention, and possibly even a card in 2nd Ed, but no more. Saw a model of it once!

I used to have some Eldar Musician models kickin' around somewhere. One of them had a harp.

The imperial robots, colossus, castellan, crusader etc and all their weird programming flowchart card weirdness.

Madboyz for orks and all the billions of ork freebooterz, ork boar riders and the super cyboar!

Adding to the list:
Human Bombs

HUMAN BOMBS!!! And those penal troopers with the EXPLOSIVE COLLARS!!! They made Imp Guard worth playing!!! HUMAN BOMBS!!!! And bombots rocked!!

Zip Napalm wrote:Tinbots (sniff).
All of my Rogue Trader Orks with plasma guns(sniff, sniff).

I use my Tinbotz as over the top Cyborks.

As for the rest of the "unusable stuff", I say use 'em however you want if you're fortunate enough to have an open minded gaming group. I'd love to field across from a stealer cult or Squat mech force that are being played as such and not "counts as".

Chaos renegade plasma cannons and multi-meltas

I've got a Weirdboy Minder with a Meltagun and a Goff Nob with a Power Axe and a Plasma Gun.

BYE

I've got my Eldar Ghost Warriors, both flavours...