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Ok, so the new models for terminators have been out for a while but I have some old metal ones, are they still ok to use even thought the base size is smaller? If the base size is a problem can I just mount them on larger bases?? I know people are really picky about base sizes of units and I don't want to upset anyone, any feedback would be much appreciated!

All my termies (17 of them) use the smaller bases as thats what they were sold with when I got them. Haven't had any issues although it is to my opponents benefit since this way they will fit more termies under their templates.

People will complain, if not to your face then to people like me or their friends. Although this only tends to happen if you are doing well in an event.

So if you do not care that people will make up excuses as to how you won because you used 25mm bases for terminators instead of 40mm bases then go for it.

Otherwise I would suggest going ahead and basing the models on the new 40mm bases. It is a fairly painless process and it helps to avoid needless drama.

Shooting termies, okay, whatever, not on the big bases but I'll survive.

Assault termies, however, I'd definitely want them on the "proppa" base size.

I'm in the same position with 25mm bases and I'm not going to worry about it. If I decided to add more of the new models, only then would I rebase my RT Terminators.

You are following the rules by having them based on "the bases they came with" and to upgrade to 40mm would technically require your opponents permission. So don't let anyone tell you that you need to change them

I re-based all my old metal terminators as soon as they started selling them in bulk, not because of any rules issues, but just because I got tired of them falling over. I wish I could do the same with my Ork Nobz. Some of those AoBR Nobz are somewhat top-heavy.

Yeah as already stated I am playing by the actual rules by not rebaseing them, but some people forget that you are supposed to play with the bases they are sold with.

Actually terminators are sold in the box set with both the 25 and 40 mm size bases. As such there is no reason why you have to field them on the larger bases.

G

The 25mm bases are supplied for the teleport homer, not the Terminators.

Ghaz wrote:The 25mm bases are supplied for the teleport homer, not the Terminators.

QFT, also GW have no reason to be giving free bases.

I wouldn't care if they were on either size base. the more important thing would be to maintain unit coherence.

I personally wouldnt care about base sizes, even in tournament settings. I play 40k to have fun, meet new armies and opponents, not to come down with my Choppa on whoever doesnt follow "standards" etc etc.

That being said though, in a tournament setting, i'd really suggest switching to the newer bases. Personally i think it looks better AND you won't ever hear any more complains about it ever again (unless GW changes things yet again ofc).

That being said, you'll always come upon people that play like this:

1. Get beat hard.
2. point finger
3. place blame
4. never shut up about it.

And then they rince and repeat throughout the tourney

yeah,
In a friendly game, either way is fine.
But If they are deep striking I really would rather they were on 40mm bases... due to the foot print size/risk of mishap being much smaller with the 25mm base...

Panic...

OK, regarding the teleport homer: there is no such thing as a teleport homer modeled on a separate base.
Despite all the weird stuff in their rules, GW has been consistent about "out of model wargear". If a piece of equipment is to be represented on a separate base that "follows" the parent figure,it is always explicitly stated. See Dark Angels Chapter Master and Huron Blackheart.

My collection of terminators is based on about twenty old metal termies. When I added to my army by buying some new plastic models, I put them all on small bases ( the box includes small bases ). This keeps the army consistent.

A-P wrote: OK, regarding the teleport homer: there is no such thing as a teleport homer modeled on a separate base.
Despite all the weird stuff in their rules, GW has been consistent about "out of model wargear". If a piece of equipment is to be represented on a separate base that "follows" the parent figure,it is always explicitly stated. See Dark Angels Chapter Master and Huron Blackheart.

My collection of terminators is based on about twenty old metal termies. When I added to my army by buying some new plastic models, I put them all on small bases ( the box includes small bases ). This keeps the army consistent.

there is a teleport homer in the box, if you look at the "examples" the termies are on 40mm and the teleport homer on the 25

I think there's a slight general misconception about the whole "which base is the correct one?" question.

As for termies, GW changed to 40mm bases for them out of necessity, seeing as the new models have alot more dynamic leg poses, with a much wider "stance" and foot placement. This doesnt automatically mean that the old smaller bases are suddenly all obsolete.

Same goes for Bikes. Many people don't even use bases for their bikes, some use the rectangular bases, and some use own modelled bases.

As long as the bases are "roughly" the correct size, it shouldnt matter. Lets say i were to make an all Deathwing army, fielding only termies, and place them all on my own custom made bases which just happens to be 35mm big, where every base is a mini scenic base, and someone i'd go up against would have a problem with this, i'd tell him to bugger off, pick up my things and leave the table.

Ancalagon The Black wrote: Lets say i were to make an all Deathwing army, fielding only termies, and place them all on my own custom made bases which just happens to be 35mm big, where every base is a mini scenic base, and someone i'd go up against would have a problem with this, i'd tell him to bugger off, pick up my things and leave the table.

But he would have the right to do so. Of the two players involved, one is following the rules and the other is acting "not-mature".

Not that I'm that worried or anything, but if I put all my old termies on 40mm bases it'll be harder to play space hulk with them! But they would look cooler.

Ghaz wrote:The 25mm bases are supplied for the teleport homer, not the Terminators.

A red shirt told me you can use them for the termies. There is no teleport homer sold in the box set anymore Ghaz. GW has cut back.

G

I bought a box of Assault Terminators a few days ago. Only 40mm bases was present.

That's funny... I am working on new terminators and the box I opened this week had both.

G

Just curious. Did it have five of each, GBF?

It came with five 40 mm and the five 25 mm attached.

G

put em on a 25mm base then put the 25mm on top of the 40mm that way each termie has a pedestal!

The GW site describes them as being supplied with 40 mm bases, and that is all that I have seen in the boxes. It is going to make relatively little difference for older models to be on their smaller bases. Frankly, I think putting the new terminators on anything but 40 mm is just an attempt to fudge the rules.

Stop being such a rules lawyer and let people enjoy the game.

G

Green Blow Fly wrote:

Ghaz wrote:The 25mm bases are supplied for the teleport homer, not the Terminators.

A red shirt told me you can use them for the termies. There is no teleport homer sold in the box set anymore Ghaz. GW has cut back.

G

Well if a red shirt told you, then that should have been more than enough evidence to support my claims. Did he also explain why you only got four bases for five terminators?

yeah,
I agree with GBF we should just let people who want to model for advantage do so....
I believe we should also stop monitoring cheats and we should stop discussing/reveilling the ways they cheat.

In fact I now believe we should all just cheat to win. this way it's our own fault if we lose.
we clearly didn't want the win bad enough...

Panic...

I have never seen anyone model a teleport homer on a base. Ghaz please calm down. Let's keep it rational.

G