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Sadly however, they're in German. I 'spose GW UK will get their act together eventually. And the Imperator is nuts!

BYE

German? Bah! I fear no language with an alphabet!

Heh. Okay, I can't really read German, but here's what I get from the datasheet for the Imperator: it's 4000 points and when you play it, you win.

More seriously, though, I'm actually surprised that it only has a rear armor of 14. WHAT? A Land Raider has better rear armor than it does?! Granted, it has 12 structure points and 8 void shields, but seriously only a rear armor of 13? Come on. It's the biggest Titan in the Imperium and you only give it a 13 for rear armor?

Compared to the one from the Titan Legions, it looks a *little* underpowered. Only 8 shields? Only a 52-model transport capacity instead of an infantry company in each leg (plus troops on the upper fortress area)? I don't know the rules for Carapace Weapons (Carapaxwaffen?) but nothing in that list looked like "battlecannon" and the Imperator should have 4 battlecannon towers. Also seems to be missing the AA-mount Defence Laser.

At least the primary weapons (Hellstorm Cannon and Plasma Annihilator) sound about right.

The "Verhangnis-Raketenwerfer" sounds like some sort of rocket launcher, but the Imperator didn't have any noticeable missile weapons. Is this datasheet meant to cover the Warmonger-class titan as well?


*sigh* This makes me want to play Epic now. Nothing like allocating plasma counters, or beating back Ork Stormboyz that used their jump packs to close assault the carapace towers.

Death By Monkeys wrote:Heh. Okay, I can't really read German, but here's what I get from the datasheet for the Imperator: it's 4000 points and when you play it, you win.

More seriously, though, I'm actually surprised that it only has a rear armor of 14. WHAT? A Land Raider has better rear armor than it does?! Granted, it has 12 structure points and 8 void shields, but seriously only a rear armor of 13? Come on. It's the biggest Titan in the Imperium and you only give it a 13 for rear armor?

The Imperator in Titan Legions tended to rely on its void shields for protection (IME). I don't know how they work in 40k/Apoc but the Imperator had 12 shields, and could repair downed ones every turn on a 6, 5+ if you used an extra point of plasma. It was fairly easy to shrug off the full weight of fire from a Mega-Gargant without having your shields knocked down.

Sure, it rolled 2D6 for armor saves (everything else in the game rolled 1D6), but when you start eating shots from some of the larger Ork gargant cannons it doesn't help much.

Anyone translated the tank datasheets yet?

it seems it also can carry some troops.

Rough translations of both tanks and Imperator are up in the comments at Bell of Lost Souls. And being able to read German, the Imperator is pretty underpowered compared to the Titan Legions version. I can't believe that the Plasma Annihilator doesn't have a setting that fires strength D shots!

Masaioh wrote:Anyone translated the tank datasheets yet?

i will.

@hbmc: why not ask for translation?

1) Imperator:
Transport capacity is 52 models per leg = 2x52

The ML is an upscaled variant of the Warlords weapon.

2) Tanks:

Stormlord still has NO front heavy bolter :(

More to follow.

1hadhq wrote:

Masaioh wrote:Anyone translated the tank datasheets yet?

i will.


2) Tanks:

Stormlord still has NO front heavy bolter :(

More to follow.

According to the WD on lap right now it does!

"Hull mounted twin linked heavy bolter" ??

Grandmaster wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

Masaioh wrote:Anyone translated the tank datasheets yet?

i will.


2) Tanks:

Stormlord still has NO front heavy bolter :(

More to follow.

According to the WD on lap right now it does!

"Hull mounted twin linked heavy bolter" ??

I've seen that this got corrected.

Sadly, it wasn't there in the morning.

Translating the datasheet:

The Tanks:

all SHT use the baneblade statline: AV/SP/BS.Only the stormlord costs more,other are equal to the shadowsword in points.
All tanks: Standard gear is searchlight + smoke launcher. Optional IG options are H-K missile,stormbolter,heavy stubber.

Banehammer

Transport capacity = 25 models. Fire points = 10 models may shoot. Embark/disembark = open topped.

Weapons:
-hull mounted Main weapon ( R=60", S=8, Ap= 3, ord 1 / 7" blast / primary / *"earthquake" )
-hull mounted HB
-2 sponsons ( lascannon + either HeavyBolter or HeavyFlamer)

* main weapon usage:
Position the template as normal. Set a marker under the hole. From there its a zone of 4d6" affected by the special rule.
"every unit moving through will treat it as difficult Terrain. Vehicles will treat it as dangerous Terrain. (this Includes skimmers!)."

Options:

-replace sponsons with armor = side Av 14
-or add 2nd set of sponsons (lasc. + either HF or HB) at +100


Banesword

weapons:

-hull mounted main weapon ( R= 24-180", S=9, Ap=3, ord 1 / barrage / 10" blast / primary)
-hull mounted front TL-HB
-set of sponsons with: lasc + either HF or HB

Options:

-replace sponsons with armor = side Av 14
-or add 2nd set of sponsons (lasc. + either HF or HB) at +100
-upgrade to HQ tank ( morale check rerolls in 24")


Doomhammer

Transport= 25 models. Fire points= 10 models may shoot. embark/disembark= open topped.

Weapons:

-hull mounted main weapon ( R=60", S=10, Ap=1, ord 1 / 5" blast / primary
-hull mounted front TL-HB
-set of sponsons (lasc + either HB or HF )

Options:

-replace sponsons with armor = side Av 14
-or add 2nd set of sponsons (lasc. + either HF or HB) at +100


Shadowsword

Weapons:

-hull mounted main weapon ( R= 120", S= titankiller ( D?), Ap= 2, ord 1 / 5" blast / TK* / primary
-set of sponsons ( lasc. + either HF or HB)

Options:

-replace sponsons with armor = side Av 14
-or add 2nd set of sponsons (lasc. + either HF or HB) at +100
-may exchange lascannon turret (sponsons) with targeters = +1 BS
-may add hull mounted HB at +25
-upgrade to HQ ( morale check reroll 24" ) at +25


Stormlord

Transport= 40 models. fire points= 20 models may shoot. embark/disembark= open topped.

weapons:

-hull mounted main weapon ( R= 60", S= 6, Ap= 3, Heavy 15 / primary
-hull mounted front TL-HB
-set of sponsons (lasc + either HB or HF )

Options:

-replace sponsons with armor = side Av 14
-or add 2nd set of sponsons (lasc. + either HF or HB) at +100
-redirect power: shoot twice when not moved. ( same or different target).


Stormsword

Weapons:

-hull mounted main weapon ( R=36", S= 10, Ap=1, Ord 1 / 10" blast / primary / ignores cover (saves)
-hull mounted front HB
-set of sponsons ( heavy Flamer + either HF or HB)

Options:

-replace sponsons with armor = side Av 14
-or add 2nd set of sponsons (lasc. + either HF or HB) at +100
-exchange HeavyFlamers (1st set of sponsons) with lascannons at +20
-upgrade front HB to TL at +5
-upgrade to HQ ( morale check reroll 24")


The Imperator Titan:

Super-heavy walker
SP= 12
Void = 8
statline: identical to Warlord, except +3 attacks.

estimated size = 3,5-4 times a warhound (heigth). Warlord is shown as 2,5x height of the Warhound,so maybe 4 is right.

Transport:

-every leg may carry up to 5 units, max Models = 52. ( so its 10 units/104models)
-embark/disembark= models have to be 2" around the leg (their appropriate transport leg!)

Weapons:

Carapace

-6 choices from the list used by the Warlord ( all of them) and the Warhound ( only Inferno-mega-cannon and Vulcan-mega-bolter ).

Arms:

-2 choices from the following:

- "Heavy plasma annihilator" , 2 fire-modi.
-N°1 = R=96", S=8, Ap=2, Ord 6 / 7" blast / primary
-N°2 = R=120", S=8, Ap=2, Ord 3 / 10" blast / primary

-"Hellstorm cannon".
- R= 96", S=9, Ap=3, Ord 8 / 7" blast / primary

-"vergelter-geschütz" ( retaliator?) , R= 360", S= titankiller ( S=D?) , Ap=2, Heavy 4 / 7" blast / primary / TK

-"verhängnis RW" (disaster? ML), R= 36-540", S=8, Ap=3, Apoc barrage (10) / primary / NOT scattering

the last 2 are hard to translate since both may be new, I can't find anything similar (40k,epic).

Special rules:

- explosion identical to Warlord, except range is 8d6".
- carapace Weapons minimum range is 36"
- earth shaking movement: "all units, except SHV or Gigantic creatures, will treat a zone of 12" around the feet of the Imperator as
difficult Terrain."



1) stormlord corrected
2) imperator changed? weapon config of epic doesn't seem to be there.
3) sadly a "blackened" drawing (outline) of the Titan. Why not give us a CAD?
4) now i know the biggest plastic kit GW should aim for.

Thank, 1hadhq.

Quite interesting. But not that much.

For those who would like to interject, I have a thread on which is your preferred IG SHT.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/232487.page

Ahem! The Datasheets are in English too! They are on the UK GW site, here's the 'Emperor' (that's what it's called on the English sheet)

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2440056_Imperial_Datasheet_-_Emperor_Battle_Titan.pdf

4K points... HOLY HELL!

It's about bloody time!

edit.

"Imperial Guard formations are not known for their mobility
and rely on overwhelming firepower to achieve their
battlefield objectives. As a result, many Imperial
commanders nurse a deep-set loathing, that borders on
hatred, for any foe that is able to advance swiftly enough
as to reach the Imperial lines before the massive
bombardments have taken a sufficient toll."

WTF GW, WTF..

I'm partial to the Stormsword and Stormlord upon initial inspection.

Stormlord with 50 Grey Knights for me.

Or 50 Khorne Bezerkers.

I'm easy.

imperator is a fething beast 0_o

Ive just sprayed my stormlord.

Im thinking that as 20 can fire from it, with the new Guard codex that could be 20 rapid firing hellguns at AP3 on top of the already huge anti power amour fire power!!

Mein Gott in Himmel! Ein hundret Trüppen auf die Beine! Das ist ganz ehrfürchtig!

The Imperitor has been gealded.

Talk about a nutered vehicle, they pulled its stuff right off. Whoever wrote that one up hasn't played Titan Legions, its painfully, knee slammingly obvious.

The little thing about the mass on this thing can make it a heck of a fun game, but with that datafax, it seems a little nonstarter for my taste.

Once saw one of these that someone made, it stood up to a grown mans hip, and they played the game on a Gym floor.
Just so Im clear, this is the titan that I'm speaking about-
The warhound doesn't even come up to its hip.

That's weird, seems like its different from the one at BoLS, which is at least 5' tall and apparently costed 9k points.

Chaos Doomsday Device?

It would seem that the renegades now sport top hats, earwax moustaches and monocles.

BrookM wrote:It's about bloody time!

edit.

"Imperial Guard formations are not known for their mobility
and rely on overwhelming firepower to achieve their
battlefield objectives. As a result, many Imperial
commanders nurse a deep-set loathing, that borders on
hatred, for any foe that is able to advance swiftly enough
as to reach the Imperial lines before the massive
bombardments have taken a sufficient toll."

WTF GW, WTF..

Translation: unimaginative gunline players like to whine (although in my experience this is not limited to IG)

Agreed on the Doomsday device. Apparently Chaos is the archetypal cartoon villain.

So do any of you think for a second all the people who built themselves Imperator titans aren't doing the happy dance right now?

BrookM wrote:Chaos Doomsday Device?

I saw that, IMO it is the best datasheet in the FRIKKIN' UNIVERSE! Every villain loves, nay, NEEDS a good Doomsday Device

Must make me one of these

Think we'll see the classic "hot ditzy battle sister tied to the mag train track" next?

BrookM wrote:Think we'll see the classic "hot ditzy battle sister tied to the mag train track" next?

She would be held in place by a pair of alpha-class rogue psykers who are slowly stripping off her armor, drooling and snickering!

It needs a renegade twirling his earwax moustache while regaling his plan to be perfect.