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NECRONS

HQ:
1 The Deceiver

Elite:
10 Immortals
Gauss Blaster

Troops:
20 Warriors
Gauss Flayer
20 Warriors
Gauss Flayer

Fast Attack:
3 Destroyers
Gauss Cannon
3 Destroyers
Gauss Cannon

Heavy Support:
3 Heavy Destroyers
Heavy Gauss Cannon
3 Heavy Destroyers
Heavy Gauss Cannon

Total Roster Cost: 1990

SPACE MARINES
HQ:
1 Forgefather Vulkan He'stan

1 Space Marine Librarian
Epistolary; Force Dome; The Avenger; Jump Pack


Elite:
1 Dreadnought
Heavy Flamer; Assault Cannon; Drop Pod

6 Terminator Assault Squad
Lightning Claws (pair) (x6)
1 Sergeant
1 Land Raider Crusader
Multi-Melta


Troops:
9 Scout Squad
Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant

9 Tactical Squad
Flamer
1 Sergeant
Power Fist
1 Rhino

9 Tactical Squad
Flamer
1 Sergeant
Power Fist
1 Rhino

Fast Attack:
9 Assault Squad
Flamer; Flamer
1 Sergeant
Melta Bombs; Power Fist


Heavy Support:
1 Whirlwind


Total Roster Cost: 2000





Necrons win 1st turn and deploy first. The Deceiver uses his Grand Illusion to re-deploy the heavy destroyers over to the left side of the board to attack the tanks. But rolls a 3 and only gets to redeploy that 1 unit.









Space Marines seize the initiative from the Necrons and rush forward full throtle. The scouts and devastator squads attack and damage 8 Necron Warriors on the right side of the board with sniper rifles, plasma cannon and lascannon fire.







Necrons Shoot all their stuff at the obscured rhinos (smoke launchers) and are completely unable to destroy any!

Turn 2







Drop Pod deep strikes dreadnaught and all vehicles unload shooting everything they have into the necron warriors killing a great many of them, wiping out a whole 20 man squad of warriors in the process













Necrons bounce back with good WBB rolls and with the aid of the deceiver are able to defend their objective and wound a couple scouts as well. The battle field heats up as more bodies drop.

Turn 3







Space Marines managed to destroy Immortals in combat









The deceiver makes his way amidst the enemy banking on his intangibility to assault the tactical squad on the objective and make it a tied game. However the space marines interfere with his advance and must be dealt with.

Turn 4



Space Marines attempt to tighten their hold on the objective while keeping the deceiver away.





Their attempts turn to futility as the deceiver gives them the go-around and the space marines begin to succumb to fire from the heavy destroyers as rhinos get destroyed and the scout squad on the adjacent objective are killed.

good battle report but I am confused.. so did the deceiver wipe out the dreadnought in combat?

Yes quite easily

that deceiver was all over the darn place!

i was there and saw a half of this game. the deceiver was really annoying to SM and took a lot of fire to took it down.

What is it with people at your store not wanting to paint their armies? O_o

I don't even play against an opponent who has unpainted stuff anymore, what's the fun in putting alot of effort into your army, to get it all to look very nice, when you end up fighting someone who apparently don't give a tiny rat's a**?

if the models we're painted I'd really appreciate your battle reports more they way you write them up and use pics is great, simple to follow, etc. but it's not nice to look at vast amounts of unpainted minis :(

Cudos

Müller wrote:What is it with people at your store not wanting to paint their armies? O_o

I don't even play against an opponent who has unpainted stuff anymore, what's the fun in putting alot of effort into your army, to get it all to look very nice, when you end up fighting someone who apparently don't give a tiny rat's a**?

if the models we're painted I'd really appreciate your battle reports more they way you write them up and use pics is great, simple to follow, etc. but it's not nice to look at vast amounts of unpainted minis :(

I understand where you are coming from, admittedly when I use my nids or necrons which are painted i feel like the bateps come to live more. But i'm also siding with everyone who likes the hobby for the 'gaming' part of it. It's not a hobby of just painting or playing it's up to the person and I think that's the way it should always be and not something to discriminate against.

The only thing i hate is people proxying things too much, when I shelled out the $ for the actual model. Proxy is cool if you are play testing sumthing b4 you decide to buy, but to proxy just cuz you dunt feel like buying the model or can't afford it currently is just wrong IMO. Stop being cheap! (by the way i mean that towards anyone who does it im not referring to anyone specific.)

Great battle report!! Go nercons!!

Müller wrote:I don't even play against an opponent who has unpainted stuff anymore, what's the fun in putting alot of effort into your army, to get it all to look very nice, when you end up fighting someone who apparently don't give a tiny rat's a**?

Because not everyone derives enjoyment from the things you do Müller. I for one do not enjoy painting at all, and as a result most of my stuff is unpainted. Ironically most of my Necrons are painted, but I bought that army specifically to teach myself how to paint. Beyond that I don't like painting, and much prefer playing, modelling and making terrain.

Having a great painted army and coming up against someone who doesn't care about painting is no different to spending a lot of effort in making a competitive that you've tested extensively and coming up against someone who just chose whatever units he had handy without much thought as to how the army works as a whole.

It's a level of expectation, and if you are expecting everyone to live up to your standards (or even operate within this hobby in the same manner as you), then you need to step back and take a look at why you want everyone to be like you.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Müller wrote:I don't even play against an opponent who has unpainted stuff anymore, what's the fun in putting alot of effort into your army, to get it all to look very nice, when you end up fighting someone who apparently don't give a tiny rat's a**?

Because not everyone derives enjoyment from the things you do Müller. I for one do not enjoy painting at all, and as a result most of my stuff is unpainted. Ironically most of my Necrons are painted, but I bought that army specifically to teach myself how to paint. Beyond that I don't like painting, and much prefer playing, modelling and making terrain.

Having a great painted army and coming up against someone who doesn't care about painting is no different to spending a lot of effort in making a competitive that you've tested extensively and coming up against someone who just chose whatever units he had handy without much thought as to how the army works as a whole.

It's a level of expectation, and if you are expecting everyone to live up to your standards (or even operate within this hobby in the same manner as you), then you need to step back and take a look at why you want everyone to be like you.

I have to say i agree with this post 100%

I hate painting. If I didn't I would have finished painting my models years ago. If it was just modeling and playing I would be so enthused.

Awesome BR BTW.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Müller wrote:I don't even play against an opponent who has unpainted stuff anymore, what's the fun in putting alot of effort into your army, to get it all to look very nice, when you end up fighting someone who apparently don't give a tiny rat's a**?

Because not everyone derives enjoyment from the things you do Müller. I for one do not enjoy painting at all, and as a result most of my stuff is unpainted. Ironically most of my Necrons are painted, but I bought that army specifically to teach myself how to paint. Beyond that I don't like painting, and much prefer playing, modelling and making terrain.

Having a great painted army and coming up against someone who doesn't care about painting is no different to spending a lot of effort in making a competitive that you've tested extensively and coming up against someone who just chose whatever units he had handy without much thought as to how the army works as a whole.

It's a level of expectation, and if you are expecting everyone to live up to your standards (or even operate within this hobby in the same manner as you), then you need to step back and take a look at why you want everyone to be like you.

First off, great report. I've enjoyed the reports you've posted. Makes me a little envious that you have a shop to go to that has great tables to play on.

HBMC: To each their own. However, paying the amount of money for the detailed models then to come off and say you hate painting and don't paint armies is baffling. If you want challenging games of armies you've heavily playtested, why not just use counters or proxy everything to something cheaper? 40K is really not a well designed game for competition, so really, how much time is spent on buidling that competitive army? 15 Minutes is pretty typical to figure out good army builds.

Ehh, I guess I just getting old and just becoming out of touch. I learned from the old crusty Historical gamers who defied anyone to put down unpainted models. The game's main fixture is on a visual medium. Then again, I'm also a gamer snob

Nice report again. I like that dreadnought, that shoulder mounted missile launcher thingie is sweet and totally buffs it out - instantly made me think that would be a sweet way to do the ironclad dreadnoughts.

As for the painted, I am more a gamer than a painter, but I have to say that the expectation in my group is that you have to get some paint on some models every week. It doesn't have to be great, but it has to keep growing. The games do look better and it is kind of a respect thing - you are respecting your opponent and making the game more enjoyable (and evocative) for them.

edit: oh yeah, I love the photoshop text on the pics, I am totally stealing that for my own batreps - I will do the quick and dirty there and my typical longwinded tedious batrep between them ;-)

Sarigar wrote:HBMC: To each their own.

That was exactly my point. Each person has their own way of enjoying this hobby. I don't yell at people who only paint and don't play, so why should it be the other way around?

Sarigar wrote:However, paying the amount of money for the detailed models then to come off and say you hate painting and don't paint armies is baffling.

Only if you somehow tie modelling and painting into one category.

I love modelling. I love converting. I have a large Lost & The Damned army with 100 Mutants - no two Mutants are the same. I have modelled each one of them individually. I built a whole Deathwatch Marine army - an army that has no rules mind you - just because I loved the idea of putting the force together. I bought extra Chaos Space Marine kits for no other reason than I like putting them together. I own a couple of grands worth of Cities of Death buildings and love coming up with new floor plans and trying out more and more challenging designs and scales. I've begun acquiring the parts for a Crusading Marine army in which I intend to make virtually every Marine unique in some way.

And none of this has anything to do with painting. They can lead to painting, sure, but they're not the same thing.

Sarigar wrote:If you want challenging games of armies you've heavily playtested, why not just use counters or proxy everything to something cheaper?

Because I like modelling. Don't know how many other ways to say it. If I was only interested in the competitive aspect... well... I sure as feth wouldn't play 40K. I'd get out my 'Mechs and go play BattleTech.

Sarigar wrote:40K is really not a well designed game for competition, so really, how much time is spent on buidling that competitive army? 15 Minutes is pretty typical to figure out good army builds.

Not always that simple, especially when your group has thrown 5th Ed in the bin and written their own ruleset, but that's neither here nor there - as you said at the start, 'to each their own'.

Just noticed something but shouldnt that dread have dropped down on turn 1 not turn 2 because of the drop pod assault rule?

Just to be slightly on topic:

Cool report! I'm playing my Necrons tomorrow for the first time, so hopefully I'll do half as well as you did.

zombie78 wrote:Just noticed something but shouldnt that dread have dropped down on turn 1 not turn 2 because of the drop pod assault rule?

There was no drop pods used. So i don't understand what you mean?

Akaiyou wrote:There was no drop pods used. So i don't understand what you mean?

Wha...?

You sure about that? You did say this:

Akaiyou wrote:Elite:
1 Dreadnought
Heavy Flamer; Assault Cannon; Drop Pod

And compare these two shots:

yeah,
Cool BatRep,
I though Marines deserved the Win! It Seemed Like they were on the back foot all game...

Somnicide wrote:...oh yeah, I love the photoshop text on the pics, I am totally stealing that for my own batreps - I will do the quick and dirty there and my typical longwinded tedious batrep between them ;-)

I'm still not sold on the Text, While I Think it helps tell the BatRep, I find it distracting and not very 40k...
I think it would be better if it was done in a 40k manor, like the images were imperial transmissions with the geek code type text
++004.M41-Turn1++describing the action+++

Müller wrote:I don't even play against an opponent who has unpainted stuff anymore, what's the fun in putting alot of effort into your army, to get it all to look very nice, when you end up fighting someone who apparently don't give a tiny rat's a**?

H.B.M.C. wrote:
...Beyond that I don't like painting, and much prefer playing, modelling and making terrain...

Painting is a part of the hobby and something I don't believe should be optional... playing unpainted Armies sucks...Fact.

I agree for many Painting just isn't fun. and that it's a skill that takes time to develop.
I can only tolerate painting in small doses. I also prefer to do modeling, terrain making and obviously playing the game!
I modeled up some obliterators, and started to paint them, But I've done as much painting as I can without going mad!
So now I'm taking a break from painting and making some terrain (a city wall for planet strike)
But when I'm done I'll get back to painting the obliterators... they have to get done to a tabletop standard before I'll play them.

Panic...

Nice Batrep.

I also feel like even an amature painter should try to get some color on their models. I'm talking about basic priming, and maybe 3 colors of paint.

I don't hold it against someone when they have an unpainted list, but it definatly kills the visual enjoyment of the game, for me.

Though i don't field a squad until it's all nice and painted, i don't object to others doing stuff their own way. It's their army, their problem. Certainly, it is far more fun to play against a painted army, but if you're gonna play, play, and if you're gonna paint, paint.

Panic wrote:Painting is a part of the hobby and something I don't believe should be optional... playing unpainted Armies sucks...Fact.

Making good lists is part of the hobby and something don't believe should be optional... playing crap Armies sucks. Fact.



No Panic. Just no. People take different things from this hobby. Forcing one onto the other is just plain fething stupid.

Oh, and more on topic:

Just finished my first game with my Necrons. 3-0 Massacre in a Objective Counter mission! YAY!

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Panic wrote:Painting is a part of the hobby and something I don't believe should be optional... playing unpainted Armies sucks...Fact.

Making good lists is part of the hobby and something don't believe should be optional... playing crap Armies sucks. Fact.



No Panic. Just no. People take different things from this hobby. Forcing one onto the other is just plain fething stupid.

GW forces painting in their GTs and (when they ran them) RTTs. Most of the larger (U.S.) indy GT forces painting. Thousands have attended over the years; simply not stupid. And when the Ard Boyz final in Baltimore displayed lots of plastic and pewter colored armies on GT tables, it sucked (the last part is my opinion). However, the Ard Boyz was designed to cater to a particular group and I fully accept that and concede the point that some take different things from the hobby.

And yes, playing against unpainted armies does suck. Not just from a simple aesthetic, but just trying to figure out what you are playing against is more difficult when it is not painted. Simple solution is to choose not to play against them. While these battle reports are cool to read, the ones that have unpainted armies being photographed simply have less appeal.

I'm not trying to sway you as that would be an effort of futility. However, I'm willing to bet what drew most players into this game was seeing cool looking painted armies on great looking tables as opposed to a sea of plastic/pewter armies on crappy looking tables.

Sarigar wrote:

I'm not trying to sway you as that would be an effort of futility. However, I'm willing to bet what drew most players into this game was seeing cool looking painted armies on great looking tables as opposed to a sea of plastic/pewter armies on crappy looking tables.

QFT. Laziness kills the hobby.

Very nice battlerep,which army was yours the crons?


Now going on to the other subject the old fight over painted vs unpainted,I personally have no problem with unpainted armies as everyone like different aspects of the hobby.I myself however prefer painting,but mostly cause the only person I have to play against is a total and utter *&%^#%$^!$& ,and I like making him feel bad when he shows up with his badly painted nids.Which brings me to my next point,a badly painted army is in my opinion worse than an unpainted army.

Somnicide wrote:QFT. Laziness kills the hobby.

Strawman much?

Who says my aversion to painting has anything to do with laziness? Why is someone who doesn't paint 'lazy'? Explain that.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Somnicide wrote:QFT. Laziness kills the hobby.

Strawman much?

Who says my aversion to painting has anything to do with laziness? Why is someone who doesn't paint 'lazy'? Explain that.

Calling you lazy helps them feel better about themselves.