Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (now with 2nd wave pics!)

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**ciaotym**

Sasori:

Where are you getting the Only one Gunboat per Army? You can have 1 for every heavy support slot.

One per FOC slot taken.

My mistake - thought that was one per army. Now I want more of them!

**Ascalam**

Kevin949 wrote:
Ascalam wrote:

*shrug* I'm good enough with Necrons (currently... i will be terrible with the new codex for a while until i adapt ) that i rarely phase out anyway, but my opponents refuse to let go of their 'win-button'

Apoc pickup games always seem to begin with 'i'll go get my Titan... ' or 'jim, get the baneblades out of the truck, will you..' . I have played a couple with Necrons, but i find them a lot more fun with my Orks

My mistake One Apoc unit (Pylon) and one other forgeworld model (Stalker) from the IA books, which the local crowd only allow in Apoc games ...

Ya, my buddy has a baneblade...luckily I didn't have to face it. But I hear ya, I think I've only phased out once and that was when I was still learning the game (only been playing a few years now).

Wow, they only let the stalker play in apoc games? that's horrible, but it's...kind of a let down even in regular games, more so that it takes a slot away from the monolith (non-apoc, of course).

Against a strong tournament list Phase Out can be hard to avoid, sometimes. Especially if you roll well (badly!) on your reserve rolls and have all your warriors come in on turn 2

They only allow the IA books in Apoc. I'm ok with them in regular games, though some of the units have severe power/cost balance issues, and oddly enough those are the ones people spam...

**mcmuffin**

I'm gonna use the Ark crons to make Reanimation markers

**Kevin949**

Ascalam wrote:
Kevin949 wrote:
Ascalam wrote:

*shrug* I'm good enough with Necrons (currently... i will be terrible with the new codex for a while until i adapt ) that i rarely phase out anyway, but my opponents refuse to let go of their 'win-button'

Apoc pickup games always seem to begin with 'i'll go get my Titan... ' or 'jim, get the baneblades out of the truck, will you..' . I have played a couple with Necrons, but i find them a lot more fun with my Orks

My mistake One Apoc unit (Pylon) and one other forgeworld model (Stalker) from the IA books, which the local crowd only allow in Apoc games ...

Ya, my buddy has a baneblade...luckily I didn't have to face it. But I hear ya, I think I've only phased out once and that was when I was still learning the game (only been playing a few years now).

Wow, they only let the stalker play in apoc games? that's horrible, but it's...kind of a let down even in regular games, more so that it takes a slot away from the monolith (non-apoc, of course).

Against a strong tournament list Phase Out can be hard to avoid, sometimes. Especially if you roll well (badly!) on your reserve rolls and have all your warriors come in on turn 2

They only allow the IA books in Apoc. I'm ok with them in regular games, though some of the units have severe power/cost balance issues, and oddly enough those are the ones people spam...

I meant more along the lines of "wow, your FLGS players only allow stalkers in apoc games?". I know that typically for tournaments they only allow IA books in apoc and nothing else, but I don't play tournaments. I rarely go to the store anymore either since I have my own table now. Unfortunately my three main opponents all have different flavors of marines as their main army...so ya.

**chaos0xomega**

XclusivevVorTex wrote:Im just wondering if I built the doomsday ark could I use the spare necrons from the kit as plain necron warriors even though they dont have any weapons and are inactive?

If you do it right, you should be able to model them as 'just activating' kind of deal. I'm thinking I'm going to use the extra's as statues for terrain.

**XclusivevVorTex**

Thanks for the cool idea and the terrain idea sounds cool as well.

**StringBassKnight**

Kroothawk wrote:and this French blog featuring an army with a barge based on those sketches:
http://alariccantonain.canalblog.com/archives/40k___necrons/index.html

Talk about Tomb Kings in space...

**Mysweetpea**

Just a quick one, are they remaking the normal necron warriors? Tempted to buy a box and start painting them. But if they are getting a remake i wont bother.

Regards

**chaos0xomega**

Negative. Warriors are staying warriors, but they maybe repackaged....

**CthuluIsSpy**

chaos0xomega wrote:Negative. Warriors are staying warriors, but they maybe repackaged....

I think he wants to know if they have any new attachments. Like weapons and accessories.

**Vemores32**

cyberscape7 wrote:Two things I need to ask:
1) If I preorder my models to be sent in store, can I pick them up the very next day after the release, only I might not be able to get in on release day
2) This new Reanimation Protocols, how are we gonna portray their saves on forums? Overlord 2+/3++/5+++ ? Seems right to me

1) If your talking about GW, I think you have to order them from the store to the store (Confusing I know!), but you will get them on release day. I know thats what im doing!
2) 2+/3++/RP? I have no idea

**FalkorsRaiders**

Vemores32 wrote:
cyberscape7 wrote:Two things I need to ask:
1) If I preorder my models to be sent in store, can I pick them up the very next day after the release, only I might not be able to get in on release day
2) This new Reanimation Protocols, how are we gonna portray their saves on forums? Overlord 2+/3++/5+++ ? Seems right to me

1) If your talking about GW, I think you have to order them from the store to the store (Confusing I know!), but you will get them on release day. I know thats what im doing!
2) 2+/3++/RP? I have no idea

I like 2+/3++/5+++ just because of how obnoxious it is. When the army has a res orb, you could use this: 2+/3++/5+++(4+++). The more obnoxious the better

**CthuluIsSpy**

FalkorsRaiders wrote:
Vemores32 wrote:
cyberscape7 wrote:Two things I need to ask:
1) If I preorder my models to be sent in store, can I pick them up the very next day after the release, only I might not be able to get in on release day
2) This new Reanimation Protocols, how are we gonna portray their saves on forums? Overlord 2+/3++/5+++ ? Seems right to me

1) If your talking about GW, I think you have to order them from the store to the store (Confusing I know!), but you will get them on release day. I know thats what im doing!
2) 2+/3++/RP? I have no idea

I like 2+/3++/5+++ just because of how obnoxious it is. When the army has a res orb, you could use this: 2+/3++/5+++(4+++). The more obnoxious the better

Don't be silly

2+/3++/5+++ is to show FNP.

For RP its

2+/3++/NA/5++++

**StringBassKnight**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
FalkorsRaiders wrote:
Vemores32 wrote:
cyberscape7 wrote:Two things I need to ask:
1) If I preorder my models to be sent in store, can I pick them up the very next day after the release, only I might not be able to get in on release day
2) This new Reanimation Protocols, how are we gonna portray their saves on forums? Overlord 2+/3++/5+++ ? Seems right to me

1) If your talking about GW, I think you have to order them from the store to the store (Confusing I know!), but you will get them on release day. I know thats what im doing!
2) 2+/3++/RP? I have no idea

I like 2+/3++/5+++ just because of how obnoxious it is. When the army has a res orb, you could use this: 2+/3++/5+++(4+++). The more obnoxious the better

Don't be silly

2+/3++/5+++ is to show FNP.

For RP its

2+/3++/NA/5++++

Great, that's even more obnoxious

**tarnish**

Ostrakon wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
tarnish wrote:gotta say im not too hot on all these special characters and their rules... i much prefer the generic character with options to a pre-packaged harbinger of awesome sauce.
in my gaming group we regard all special chars as cheese and never use them, and quite honestly i cant see the ones in the necron dex changing that...

You have a very strange gaming group. Aun'va is cheese? The Phoenix Lords are cheese? Without a doubt this is one of the strangest things I've heard in a while.

In the vast majority of nerdic games (40K, WFB, MtG, D&D, and many others) it's easier to call something "cheese" or "broken" than it is to actually figure out how to deal with it.

its not that we cant deal with it my good man... its a question of not Wanting the special characters to become game-controlling.... thats it. besides, its an agreement we have because, quite frankly, thats how we like it.

iproxtaco wrote:Why did you go and quote the whole first post?

maybe he really really likes the post

**CthuluIsSpy**

Yeah I don't really like SC myself...I don't know why really, I just don't like using them.
I guess it's cause a SC could die...which is confusing from a fluff perspective.

The only SC I really felt comfortable using were the C'tan, because they can't die.

**UltraPrime**

If you are playing from a 'fluff' perspective, then using dice is probably just as surplus.

**CthuluIsSpy**

UltraPrime wrote:If you are playing from a 'fluff' perspective, then using dice is probably just as surplus.

Not really. From a fluff perspective, the dice represent the possible outcomes of a battle.
However, as I said my stance on using SC is...well, weird.

**UltraPrime**

Actually, going OT for a second, I once played a game without using dice. Just assumed any dice roll would be statistical average. Was an interesting experience.

**whigwam**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
UltraPrime wrote:If you are playing from a 'fluff' perspective, then using dice is probably just as surplus.

Not really. From a fluff perspective, the dice represent the possible outcomes of a battle.
However, as I said my stance on using SC is...well, weird.

I think your stance used to be a lot more common. When I was playing 3rd Ed., SC's were allowed but usually came with some stigma. I agree that it's a little ridiculous having (what are supposed to be) historically noteworthy individuals fighting in each and every battle. ("Oh Marneus Calgar and Dante are fighting again! Those crazy Chapter Masters!") It kind of spoils their "specialness." That said, I frequently play with Fateweaver and Skulltaker. Nowadays SC's are a lot more reasonably priced and often have the most fun abilities.

**CthuluIsSpy**

UltraPrime wrote:Actually, going OT for a second, I once played a game without using dice. Just assumed any dice roll would be statistical average. Was an interesting experience.

Who won?

**UltraPrime**

My 4th ed custom Marine chapter (twin Flamer Tac squads) beat 4th ed IG.

**tarnish**

whigwam wrote:
Nowadays SC's are a lot more reasonably priced and often have the most fun abilities.

this. nowadays being the point. i think we can agree that the special chars available to each codex army are widely different and some codexes actually add little in the way of options to the army at all... some add major options and incredible rules... is that balanced and fair?

**Sabet**

Sad that they didn't go up today, given it is the 23rd, but knowing the GW site it'll show tomorrow if it shows at all (What's New Today is always shown the day after for some reason). That or i wait till the 29th.

**Ostrakon**

tarnish wrote:
whigwam wrote:
Nowadays SC's are a lot more reasonably priced and often have the most fun abilities.

this. nowadays being the point. i think we can agree that the special chars available to each codex army are widely different and some codexes actually add little in the way of options to the army at all... some add major options and incredible rules... is that balanced and fair?

My opinion aligns with this, and I would go on to say that the codices that come out in a given edition appear to be reasonably balanced against each other. All of the 5E codices may, at times, seem overpowered to those of us who only play 4E (and in some extreme cases like 'crons, 3E), they seem for the most part pretty diverse and well-balanced against each other. Sure, there's cheese, but I don't think there's anything truly egregious to the point that all competitive players are taking identical lists.

**mcmuffin**

I like 2+/3++/5+++

No no no its 00110010 00101011 00101111 00110011 00101011 00101111 00110101 00101011 00101011 00101011 01010010 01010000 obviously, we are talking about necrons here

**CthuluIsSpy**

mcmuffin wrote:

I like 2+/3++/5+++

No no no its 00110010 00101011 00101111 00110011 00101011 00101111 00110101 00101011 00101011 00101011 01010010 01010000 obviously, we are talking about necrons here

Necrons are really too advanced for binary I think. It should be Hexadecimal

322B2F332B2F352B2B2B5250

**JohnnoM**

lol, thats stuff is just slang to them though.

**CKO**

Does anyone know what are the weapons on the ghost ark?

**CthuluIsSpy**

CKO wrote:Does anyone know what are the weapons on the ghost ark?

Flayers by the looks of it.

S4 AP5 Rapid Fire.