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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 04:01:33
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Morgrim wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:Ah, Morgrim may yet be saved.
If only we had enough promethium to burn away all that Dark Eldar stuff on top...
I think you have more than enough, the question is would I actually survive said immolation.
The question is not whether you would survive the immolation, the question is whether your survival really matters.
*scratches head* Well, while it matters quite a bit to me, I'm actually struggling to think of a reason it would matter to you. If I recall correctly, get to a certain point with the Inquisition and the only difference repentance makes is whether your death is swift and fairly painless, or long and agonising.
None of which is helping me, so why am I saying this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 04:05:50
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Heretic's are Human just corrupted.
I was teasing fun at the loyalist scum and Eldar.
Anywho, this is a long lived thread it's been what 3 week's now?
Death to the False Emperor! and his corpse worshiping guardsmen. I shall smite his weakling astartes to the warp.
I shall hunt down and skin his inquisitors alive with my claws!!!! For I am Shadowbrand! Daemon Prince of Slannesh.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:10:45
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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Alright..I know that Humanity just wants to defend itself but why can't they get a real "leader" not a corpse...I mean, Chaos, Eldar, Necrons, Orks...everyone worships Gods so why can't humanity get themselves a God??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:10:55
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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@Shadowbrand: Funny coming from the guy who uses THAT as an Avatar...
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:37:54
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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@EF sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how in love with myself I am.
-Admires self in mirror-
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:41:06
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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*EF turns to the group of aspiring young acolytes behind him*
"Now take note, students. Here we have a prime example of one of the greatest vices of heresy. Hubris..."
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:44:49
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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*r3n takes a shotgun, walks calmly in the room with EF and his students and blasts their brains out*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:45:51
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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@R3n.
You have done well young Guardsmen. Now I have a reward for you.
-Wicked grin-
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:48:00
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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*looks at the Slaaneshi guy in front of him and shoots him as well, because he wears cooler clothes than him*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 05:51:00
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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-roll's a  on his inv save-
Prepare for the eons of violation that await you mortal!!!!
-sticks the guardsmen in his pant's-
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/01/19 05:51:10
I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 08:56:44
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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This thread just reached a whole new level of heretical...ish...ness...
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 09:45:25
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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To all those people arguing about nids and necrons, nids aren't afraid, they just stay well away from tomb worlds. Some say it's cos the outsider is directing them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 10:19:08
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Sinewy Scourge
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*bares teeth at the harvesters of She Who Thirsts*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 21:35:25
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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*EF looks at Morgims teeth and calls for a dentist*
@idjet: I doubt that Tyranids are actually afraid of Necrons, but they certainly avoid them if they get the chance. They are smart enough to see that getting dragged into a war with necrons (an enemy that they can gain nothing from) is dumb. You can see as much from the new Nid dex.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 21:59:36
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Dakka Veteran
Arkahm
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Emperors Faithful wrote:*EF looks at Morgims teeth and calls for a dentist*
@idjet: I doubt that Tyranids are actually afraid of Necrons, but they certainly avoid them if they get the chance. They are smart enough to see that getting dragged into a war with necrons (an enemy that they can gain nothing from) is dumb. You can see as much from the new Nid dex.
And we have bug spray but THAT doesn't work.....
Also the deciding factor for Waagh vs Hive is who ever can regen the greater number of Boyz or Gaunts..
*thinks for a moment*
ARG! My thought just got deep striked by a Emperor Class Titan!!!!! DAMN YOU CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD!!!!
*looks at Morgim and calls for a flamer*
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Orkeosaurus wrote:But can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
xxmatt85 wrote:Brains for the brain god!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/19 23:48:36
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Why is everyone picking on me?
*hears the call for a dentist. Thinks of the dentists she knows. Tries backing away until she hits the wall behind her with a thump*
You know, given the option of an Inquisitor with a dentist and a guardsman with a flamer, I may take my chances dodging promethium...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 01:26:05
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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*passes the amusement a flameproof body bag* Or you could go option C. Wait for someone who has vested interest in foiling your attackers.
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"There's a difference between bein' a smartboy and bein' a smart git, Gimzod." - Rogue Skwadron, the Big Push
My Current army lineup |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 05:13:39
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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wait..this has become to /b/ back on topic pleaz!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 05:26:38
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?
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r3n3g8b0y wrote:wait..this has become to /b/ back on topic pleaz!
lol
the problem with joining chaos is JOINING chaos, prob some daemonhunter would just come and kill you... :/
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You're not playing the game like I play it...why aren't you playing the game like I play it?! O_O |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 06:23:19
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Blitza da warboy wrote:r3n3g8b0y wrote:wait..this has become to /b/ back on topic pleaz!
lol
the problem with joining chaos is JOINING chaos, prob some daemonhunter would just come and kill you... :/
That's the plan.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 18:43:08
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Alright, back on topic.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 19:38:36
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Skillful Swordsman
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if i had to choose i would choose the emperor.
i am a sworn enemy of chaos!!!! (lol)
and all the chaos players have to admit:
you are not that powerful.
if chaos is SO powerful why the other races still resist???
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/01/20 19:39:09
''Whoever controls the past, controls the future.''
''Whoever controls the present, controls the past''
George Orwell, 1984
WFB:
Empire
Games in 8th with empire:
wins: 1
loses: 1
draws: 2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 05:14:53
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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rockabill-gr wrote:if i had to choose i would choose the emperor.
i am a sworn enemy of chaos!!!! (lol)
and all the chaos players have to admit:
you are not that powerful.
if chaos is SO powerful why the other races still resist???
because Chaos needs the other races to exist, like bacterias need heat and organic matter...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 09:07:47
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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That sounds more like 'Nids and Necrons to me. I do not think that Chaos KNOWS that it relies on others to sustain it. Probably only Tzeench is aware of this. And needing something alive for sustenance does not stop from dominance or enslaving them. (Which they do quite often).
Chaos has been trying to achieve dominance over Mankind (and indeed the galaxy) for many Millennia. They've just been failing. Badly.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 14:59:59
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Skillful Swordsman
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thats right.
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''Whoever controls the past, controls the future.''
''Whoever controls the present, controls the past''
George Orwell, 1984
WFB:
Empire
Games in 8th with empire:
wins: 1
loses: 1
draws: 2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/22 01:37:29
Subject: Re:Why fight for the emperor?
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Dakka Veteran
Arkahm
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Abbaddon has failed at 13 F*CKING BLACK CRUSADES!!! Got to admit, we kick ass.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:But can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
xxmatt85 wrote:Brains for the brain god!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/22 06:52:34
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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That Abbadon has failed 13 times says more about Abbadon than it does about the Imperium.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/22 08:24:31
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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r3n3g8b0y wrote:Okay so I'm a traitor scumbag, fair enough. But there is a reasoning behind it.
I wouldn't want to fight for a God (because he basically is one...), and the conditions are terrible.
People live in slums, Inquistitors hae the right to conscript any Imperial citizen into the army, Commisars kill anyone that ignores his commands, and I don't want to know about the income of the basic imperial soldier. I know Space Marines fight because of honor, their faith in the emperor and for glory.
But seriously, why would you want to fight for the Emperor?
Thanks in advance for any feedback!
I'm a Loyalist Die Hard even if I have the dream of finishing to build my Thousand Sons army one of these days... BUT, I've read various codex, books and online discussions on the matter, plus some information on older versions of Warhammer.
Basically... the Imperium sucks. It's a tyranny covered up on religious beliefs, driven by an empty corpse that is full of uncontrolled psychic power that is useful just for the Navigators to wander in the warp.
The Emperor, was a tyrant and a liberator at the same time, when in an age where there were NO institutions, where everything was failing, he came and brought the hope of survival for the human race. Various texts report that the Emperor was just....human, so stupid and full of himself as anyone else. The stories regarding the various primarchs and what was happening during the pre-heresy timeline, should help on understanding this... he was no saint, no good man.
But he brought light, reunited the human race under one banner, gave everyone a chanche of survival in a universe where if you're alone you're dead meat. How could a system stand the assault of an Ork force, Tyranids or Tau without the support of an Empire ? You fight for Human Kind rather than for that empty shell on the Golden Throne.
This is for some specific SM Chapters (might be few indeed) and definitly for the Imperial Guard that usually is conscripted and trained directly on the planet where there's battle (planet defence force)...this means that you fight for your home, your family. I think it's good enough to stay with the Imperium. Plus, the way that Commisars administrate their command can't be that rigid. Sure, they can kill a horde of IGs retreating, but I wonder how many are killed by the soldiers.
In truth, many of the ideas behind the background might be misinterpretated. Who would stay and fight a Carnifex without heavy weapons ? I'd run and search for support rather than stay there and be slaughtered and eaten alive, and if I must, I kill the Commisar. Who would tell me something ? The comrades that are fleeing ? No, I don't think so.
Commisars are bastards, but are useful for discipline and leadership, being instructed by Schola Primogena (if I recall correctly) that gets just orphans and lost souls of noble families or known ones, gives you a picture of what are they.
The Emperor, from my point of view, is not a God at least not anymore. Once it was perhaps in the Rogue Trader era, but then it was changed and shaped in a way that now seems just a man went well beyond the age of his survival. Perhaps the artificial intelligence (machine spirit) connected to the Golden Throne, permits to the Emperor to have a sort of view of what is happening... who knows. He can't speak no more. For sure he's not fighting against the Chaos Gods... with all regards but he's a small fish even with athe lot of followers he has on many planets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/22 09:08:10
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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You sir, have crossed the line! *takes off glove and slaps KOS*
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/22 09:58:40
Subject: Why fight for the emperor?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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OUCH!
*the big SM on yellow armor with IF markings starts crying out loud like a baby*
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