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**Karon**

I think we all forget about the miracle of adrenaline.

**fallen_wolfborn**

True. But of course the question is what kind of zombie are we talking here?
Romero, Resi, SOTD or L4D?

**BaronIveagh**

fallen_wolfborn wrote:So hand axes for the win in melee at least... or katanas.

Not even close. A katana will dull after a few strokes, even if you're a pro. See this lampshaded in Highschool of the Dead.

Note: Zombies most likely sense by sound or vibration, since optic nerves degrade past usability fairly rapidly after death. This means that plans involving something like a thumper (see Dune) might lure them into areas which can then be napalmed. Or just prepared with a petrol/Styrofoam jelled fuel concoction and hit with a flare. Fwoosh.

**dogma**

If you're in melee you've already been infected.

BaronIveagh wrote:No, not in numbers, but they could (and did) in a pinch, according to my grandfather's best friend, who drove one.

... I'm trying to picture the zombies threatening a buttoned up Sherman... and not succeeding...

They could get into, and jam, the tracks. They could jam the air intakes for the engine. They could block the gun, or penetrate the hull ports.

**Guitardian**

I never go anywhere without my crowbar. Seriously I'm not making that up, it's been with me for 18 years now and still works fine at... well... everything. I'm not talking about taking off heads necessarily (it would make a good dent I guess) but as a great last minute getaway device, you can never go wrong with the trusty crowbar for those annoying nailed-shut upper story windows, or the access to the roof... or the subway tunnel, or the supermarket. Crowbar is definitely on my packing list.

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crowbar, big backpack, sword, and canned goods
I'm already making my shopping list just to be prepared because this could go down any day now.

**fallen_wolfborn**

BaronIveagh wrote:
fallen_wolfborn wrote:So hand axes for the win in melee at least... or katanas.

Not even close. A katana will dull after a few strokes, even if you're a pro. See this lampshaded in Highschool of the Dead.

Note: Zombies most likely sense by sound or vibration, since optic nerves degrade past usability fairly rapidly after death. This means that plans involving something like a thumper (see Dune) might lure them into areas which can then be napalmed. Or just prepared with a petrol/Styrofoam jelled fuel concoction and hit with a flare. Fwoosh.

Do we not remember the gospel of Max L Brooks, hmm?

**FITZZ**

fallen_wolfborn wrote:
BaronIveagh wrote:
fallen_wolfborn wrote:So hand axes for the win in melee at least... or katanas.

Not even close. A katana will dull after a few strokes, even if you're a pro. See this lampshaded in Highschool of the Dead.

Note: Zombies most likely sense by sound or vibration, since optic nerves degrade past usability fairly rapidly after death. This means that plans involving something like a thumper (see Dune) might lure them into areas which can then be napalmed. Or just prepared with a petrol/Styrofoam jelled fuel concoction and hit with a flare. Fwoosh.

Do we not remember the gospel of Max L Brooks, hmm?

According to the gospel of Max L Brooks.

"The one handed hatchet is a good weapon of last resort.
If you find yourself cornerd,and larger weapons are useless,a hatchet blow will more than take care of an attacker."

Also (paraphrased) from the gospel of Max L Brooks.

Hearing & Smell seem to be the 2 senses zombies depend on the most.

**BaronIveagh**

dogma wrote:If you're in melee you've already been infected.

BaronIveagh wrote:No, not in numbers, but they could (and did) in a pinch, according to my grandfather's best friend, who drove one.

... I'm trying to picture the zombies threatening a buttoned up Sherman... and not succeeding...

They could get into, and jam, the tracks. They could jam the air intakes for the engine. They could block the gun, or penetrate the hull ports.

Other then the tracks, all those things require intelligence. Which seems to be the one thing that most sources state zombies seem to lack.

On World War Z: Max is wrong, in a lot of ways. While, no, you cannot burn a zombie to ash with napalm, the ensuing cooking will render them re-dead just the same. That much heat can and will destroy brain tissues and ligaments enough that if the zombie isn't dead, they won't be able to move, and can be quickly eliminated while immobile.

**AndrewC**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
don't worry all dakkites are welcome, we'll just have to watch out for the glaswegien cannibals but other than that we'll be fine just load the 1 o'clock gun with cutlery

I was going to get annoyed at this comment, but then I remembered the colour of the Edinburgh Buses and thought I couldn't kick a man when they're down.

Andrew

**dogma**

BaronIveagh wrote:
Other then the tracks, all those things require intelligence. Which seems to be the one thing that most sources state zombies seem to lack.

Intelligence, or luck, which is an important thing to consider when facing a horde. Additionally, I don't think I've seen any zombie movie in which zombies are entirely devoid of intelligence. They still lash out at targets, and move to walk through doors rather than running into walls.

**Commissar NIkev**

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:The school is a good diea, i don't see why people keep thinking it's not.

Most schools, sadly for the education system but not the apocalypse, are quite fortress like.

My school was built on top of a mountain to prevent kids from ditching classes to go somewhere, as it's to far from anyplace to do that.
It has several large doors designed to take heat levels from explosions (the school board was worried about kids going on rampages using homemade explosives.) for a consatsnt 24 hours,
and has several gates that are sued in malls to close down the shop.

Add to that you can use the woodshop, which most schools have, to build barricades or weapons.

Or just use the desks, tables, computers, tvs, and bookshelves to make defensvie perimeters in a pinch, and you're set for at leats a little while.

And you've got a steady supply of food and drinks if you find and turn on the emergency generators quick enough to power the freezer and home ec rooms back up.
If the school has a rifle team as well, it isn't that hard to open the gun safe and take the weapons and ammo from inside to use.

Sure, they're only .22s, but it's a good enough weapon for a beginner to use, and the ammo is light enough that it cna be carried for a long time with a lot of it.

Obviously there are flaws to the plan, if someoen would point them out I'm sure there'd be a way to work aorund these.

Dude you school sounds amazing(not the fact that its the school but what it contains)

*Problems I saw*

Food - Dude your in a high school, I don't know about you but if people and kids start shuffling to schools they would all die, kids here eat like a squig in a hospital of civilians(Sad I know but its all I could think of), so there will be riots resulting in doom unless you have people with guns or a very Charismatic individual who acts as the leader that everyone will listen to(those are pretty damn hard to find)
But yea, I'm in America so people in other countries probably wouldn't have to worry about food as much considering one of America's problem with youths is obesity

Weapons - this wasn't a problem, I just wanted to add, don't forget about archery teams, though they aren't as good as guns, thats actually(as far as I know) the only weapons my school has. JROTC sucks cause all of our M1's lack a firing pin and have a metal rod welded in the barrel(they really want us to die in an apocalypse)

Well thats what I though would be flaws.

**BaronIveagh**

In all likelihood, the panicking humans will cause more damage then the rampaging zombies, at first. That's one thing that Brooks got right.

**FITZZ**

BaronIveagh wrote:In all likelihood, the panicking humans will cause more damage then the rampaging zombies, at first. That's one thing that Brooks got right.

I whole heartedly agree,avoiding large groups of humans will be important to survival,particularly in the first days,the amount of stampeding, car crashing,wildly shooting,running around atracting zombie attention nonsense would create LOADS of casulities,and you don't want to be numbered among them.

**BaronIveagh**

I've found that not being numbered among the casualties is a good thing. The alternative sucks. Or hurts like hell. Both are negative outcomes, in my book.

**dogma**

It really all depends on how widespread the infection is. If its global, survival would be highly overrated.

**Slarg232**

BaronIveagh wrote:I've found that not being numbered among the casualties is a good thing. The alternative sucks. Or hurts like hell. Both are negative outcomes, in my book.

dogma wrote:It really all depends on how widespread the infection is. If its global, survival would be highly overrated.

But surviving does mean you can hope for a better tomorrow. Even if "Hope is the first step down the road to disappointment"

And I don't know about you guys, but in my hidey hole, I am going to...... Sacrifice myself to the repopulation of the world.

**WarOne**

Slarg232 wrote:
BaronIveagh wrote:I've found that not being numbered among the casualties is a good thing. The alternative sucks. Or hurts like hell. Both are negative outcomes, in my book.

dogma wrote:It really all depends on how widespread the infection is. If its global, survival would be highly overrated.

But surviving does mean you can hope for a better tomorrow. Even if "Hope is the first step down the road to disappointment"

And I don't know about you guys, but in my hidey hole, I am going to...... Sacrifice myself to the repopulation of the world.

How very noble of you to contribute:

**dogma**

Slarg232 wrote:
But surviving does mean you can hope for a better tomorrow. Even if "Hope is the first step down the road to disappointment"

And dieing means receiving the ultimate question. Of course, we already have the answer.

**Slarg232**

dogma wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:
But surviving does mean you can hope for a better tomorrow. Even if "Hope is the first step down the road to disappointment"

And dieing means receiving the ultimate question. Of course, we already have the answer.

Forty Two?

**BaronIveagh**

Take it from someone who's been dead and resuscitated three separate times (for three separate reasons!):

Death sucks.

Drowning is more frightening but less painful

Freezing is neither painful (note: freezing to death, not frostbite or trench foot) nor frightening, you just sort of fall asleep.

Being caught in an explosion is both painful and frightening, and I recommend it the least. Though it is really fast compared to the other two.

Also: do not be run over by buses or fall off cliffs. They also suck, but I didn't get the death part, so I can't comment on that.

And, frankly, even if it's the end of the road, I intend to take as many of them with me as I can.

**SilverMK2**

With your luck, BaronIveagh, zombies will attack soon - it's a good job I have a large ocean between yourself and me

**Frazzled**

IG_urban wrote:

stop being a troll. mistress is being needlessly nasty....I will not tolerate that. I cannot stand people making idiotic assumptions about my life based on a few lines of text...typical ignorance.

Sorry the Mods are the ones who decide if its tolerated thank you. You need to seriously chill out. Now.

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Orlanth wrote:IG_urban, I regret to inform you that you are 100% failed to provide a viable survive the zombie plague plan. This is because by standing around arguing loudly you have attracted some zombies. It is a pity you and those you are having a slagging match with were too busy comparing weapon stats to notice the shuffling noises from all around until way too late.

You have been bitten, game over.

There you go.

**Orlanth**

Frazzled wrote:
Sorry the Mods are the ones who decide if its tolerated thank you. You need to seriously chill out. Now.

Frazzie, that was three days and four pages ago.

I can imagine Frazzie the wizened exasperated schoolteacher who rushes out into the playground waving a cane to demand the kids behave, only to stop suddenly and find himself all alone becuse school broke for the holidays the day before.

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**Slarg232**

Orlanth wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Sorry the Mods are the ones who decide if its tolerated thank you. You need to seriously chill out. Now.

Frazzie, that was three days and four pages ago.

I can imagine Frazzie the wizened exasperated schoolteacher who rushes out into the playground waving a cane to demand the kids behave, only to stop suddenly and find himself all alone becuse school broke for the holidays the day before.

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"GET OFF MY DAMN LAW-....... Where is everyone?"

**Frazzled**

Orlanth wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Sorry the Mods are the ones who decide if its tolerated thank you. You need to seriously chill out. Now.

Frazzie, that was three days and four pages ago.

I can imagine Frazzie the wizened exasperated schoolteacher who rushes out into the playground waving a cane to demand the kids behave, only to stop suddenly and find himself all alone becuse school broke for the holidays the day before.

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Would it surprise you that I've gone into work, poked my head up a few hours later, wondering where the hell all the other lazy bastards are, only to realize it was a holiday?

**SilverMK2**

Sure they wern't just hiding from you and/or had been eaten by zombies?

**Monster Rain**

I'd take the wife and kids up into the mountains. There shouldn't be too many Zombies out there, and it wouldn't be hard to find a spot where you could see them coming from all directions. Plenty of water and food if you know how to hunt and fish, and I know some spots where we could hole up for the winter, if I split enough firewood. I think once winter set in we'd be okay, since I'm pretty sure zombies would freeze solid.

Oh, and guns. Lots and lots of guns. Which I have.

**Frazzled**

I wish.

**BaronIveagh**

Don't worry, Fraz, I've been there too.

**besring**

Well I would grab all the metal poles and heavy tublar things in my garage and head to my local tesco. Clear it of zombies and block the doors. Then wait to be saved by the army