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I must say that i like them, i think they are cool enough, i will get the new Necron Codex.

Those transports look easy enough to build and paint.

Once i get well into my CSM Army i might just start a Necron Army.

Are the warriors supposed to change in any way, shape or form?

I doubt it. Making plastic kits is expensive. Remaking plastic kits that already exist is more expensive.

not sure if this has been brought up yet, but the necron overlord to the right of the picture looks VERY similar to the one riding the vehicle at the top..... im thinking plastic overlord similar to the one you get with the necro sphinx, also backed up in a ways by wayland games (who have prices ) only selling one necron overlord (in finecast)

EDIT: thought i'd share wayland prices with you all, if this is against rules, could a mod please remove it, and my deepest apologies =(

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/pre-orders/games-workshop/cat_531.html

gotta say i like it all. the flayed ones are less fab but all in all it looks promising. will need to make the transport enclosed, since i detest open topped stuff and the crons inside can easily be put to better use.

looking forward to this release

My main concern at the minute, from a practcal point of view, is that all those vehicles look they would be a pain to fit into a normal GW army case....just like the monolith.

Wow, and I was upset on page 11 of the other thread before most of the pics hit. Looks like people will need to buy lots of stuff to make their Necrons playable. Between the new kits and the points drop, continuing to play necrons will be just as expensive as starting a new army used to be. Some people may be ok with this, but almost all of the new kits are just plain bad. The new immortals and deathmarks are very nice. Imotekh and the Dynamic Overlord are also cool, but all of headdresses are terrible and must be removed. The poses on the lychguard are awkward. The torsos on the Triarchs are way too big, and the band that connects to the exo spine looks bad, as do the balls on their back. I have plenty of flayed ones, so I do not need to worry about that disaster. The necrons on the Ghost Ark look like they are doing the macarena. In the very least the Doom Ark needs the ends of the ribs reversed, as was mentioned before. The Barge command and support need to have the 'pilots' removed. Trazyn has an uninspiring pose. I was hoping that the new units would at least be cool like the forge world centipede.

Thats a point, has anyoen heard if the Tomb Stalker will be in the new codex or if it will stay a FW only model?

I didn't see any one catch this yet, necron pricing is up on wayland games, http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/pre-orders/games-workshop/cat_531.html
The barge is alot cheaper than I expected.

@protomane0: Nice hint at the content.

Crons as boxes of 5 minis ... the new trend? The ones without "plastic" are f..cast then.

A lot of "undead" in this army. Only Immortals made on the "to buy list" ..yet.

horrible horrible, its always hit or miss with gw for me.
I'd rather play W40K with playmobil instead of those toystore droids.
what a mess...

1hadhq wrote:Crons as boxes of 5 minis ... the new trend? The ones without "plastic" are f..cast then.

5 is the new 10! Don't worry. It's not a complete new trend. They're still priced like they were 10 models.


Wait... that's not a good thing...

Praxiss wrote:Thats a point, has anyoen heard if the Tomb Stalker will be in the new codex or if it will stay a FW only model?

Well, considering that it apparently made an appearance in IA apocalypse second edition, it's probably gonna stay FW.

Asuron wrote:I like the designs of the vehicles and all, but the whole thing looks too..... human. They don't feel like soulless automatons out to harvest life.

Like for example one of the riders is gesturing for his warriors to move, but why would they ever need to do that? Humans do those kind of gestures, robots not so much.

Just a personal taste thing though, they do look nice regardless

It seems like a billion people have already pointed this out over the course of the last 24 hours, but since people keep stepping forward with the same misconceived complaint, I feel the need to jump in here; Necrons aren't all soulless automatons.

Different Necrons of different ranks and variety retain differently-expressed vestiges of their former personalities.

This may not have been drummed out as clearly in the last codex, but it seems to be the direction that the new background will pursue. Personally, I like it. I like it a hell of a lot better than when Tyranid creatures gained the attribute of personality. I like the idea of a Necron Warrior being a broken, hopeless, and completely insane mind shackled and organized by the programming inherent to its robot form. If the idea of Necron personality is completely expunged by the fluff, what's the point of them even having an origin story? Why does it matter that they were all once individuals of the Necrontyr race, if all they are now is locked-in artificial intelligences? They may as well come off of an assembly line, and be renamed Robotyranids.

Having traces of personality gives them a more distinct theme in the background. Incidentally, it also brings them even closer to the "Tomb Kings in SPACE" concept, but I don't have any beef at all with that guiding principle.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Praxiss wrote:Thats a point, has anyoen heard if the Tomb Stalker will be in the new codex or if it will stay a FW only model?

Well, considering that it apparently made an appearance in IA apocalypse second edition, it's probably gonna stay FW.

Ah, didn't know that. Poo.

what the... oh noooooo... the first things look really okay but when I got in the middle of the pictures, like why??? really If this si goona be what necrons are becoming then they just killed the necrons :s

H.B.M.C. wrote:

1hadhq wrote:Crons as boxes of 5 minis ... the new trend? The ones without "plastic" are f..cast then.

5 is the new 10! Don't worry. It's not a complete new trend. They're still priced like they were 10 models.


Wait... that's not a good thing...

5 models and lots of bitz are still 4€ cheaper than 10 models and few bitz. Its the small things that count....

GW should keep that trend when they redo horde armies. 5 ork boyz, the greenskin would love it.
Once, options were rare, now bodies are rare.

Are basic necron warriors compatible with parts of the new line? If so, bodies + new left over bitz = profit.

1hadhq wrote:

5 models and lots of bitz are still 4€ cheaper than 10 models and few bitz. Its the small things that count....

GW should keep that trend when they redo horde armies. 5 ork boyz, the greenskin would love it.
Once, options were rare, now bodies are rare.

Are basic necron warriors compatible with parts of the new line? If so, bodies + new left over bitz = profit.

this! I have kept 30 warriors unassembled when I heard the necrons were getting a reboot. All the new bits
will have the old bodies to go to! two years waiting for my plans to rule the galaxy, or destroy it or whatever

Bulkoth wrote:I didn't see any one catch this yet, necron pricing is up on wayland games, http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/pre-orders/games-workshop/cat_531.html
The barge is alot cheaper than I expected.

You mean like 5 posts above yours? LoL

Well I'm glad the pricing is up, if the USD conversion is accurate I will be spending about $350 on release day (unless my Hierophant doesn't sell on eBay for what I think it's worth....then I'll just be getting the codex and maybe a box of lychguard)

Units of 5 terminators cost $50 so getting high-points resilient models for $31 seems like a fine conversion. Without upgrades the lychguard are rumored to be 40 points apiece, so 5 of them will cost the same to field as terminators but $20 cheaper. Immortals, at a rumored 17 points apiece, however....will be more expensive.

RutgerMan wrote:what the... oh noooooo... the first things look really okay but when I got in the middle of the pictures, like why??? really If this si goona be what necrons are becoming then they just killed the necrons :s

guess thats not too bad since they just phase out
but seriously why all the flaming hatred towards the new models? its not like the old ones are being made less viable to field, so if you find these to be awfull then simply use the old ones.
the endless crying and moaning is getting a bit to repetitive and pointless... if i wanted to read a clone of 50-odd whine posts id go to warseer

Kevin949 wrote:

Bulkoth wrote:I didn't see any one catch this yet, necron pricing is up on wayland games, http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/pre-orders/games-workshop/cat_531.html
The barge is alot cheaper than I expected.

You mean like 5 posts above yours? LoL

as you'll see that was an edit after I posted...

A thumbs up to most of the kits from me (flayed ones aside ).

I have no issue with the Necrontyr pilots of the barge or ark either. Remember, they aren't robots, they're beings interred inside a cybernetic construct. If you were one of the Necrontyr that got stuck being the spirit of some troop transport, you'd be pretty hacked off.

I wonder how difficult it will be to magnetize the command barge into the support barge and vice-versa. Probably much simpler than trying to convert the ghost ark to the doomsday gun platform.

Remember doomsday gun is 72" S9 AP1 5" blast, BS 4 (rumored stats from Yakface) So not being able to swivel means less when the gun itself is staying very far away from its targets, you can just pivot the skimmer to whatever is going to die. Remember the demolisher cannon on vindicators has no swivel either, and it's only got a 24" range. I will be picking up two ark kits on release day and then probably 2 or 3 more to use as transports afterwards (as the current metagame requires that transports are widely used and available).

Plus how cool is a transport with broadside guns, shooting supposedly 10 - 20 s4 ap5 shots per turn? (or 5-10 if only one unit can be targeted, since obviously one side's guns can't swivel and shoot to anything on the other side). Instead of zooming in like a scalpel with DE jetboats, our necrons slide in like a mack truck with a payload. Ace!

A couple of odd thoughts:

It's hard to tell from the pictures, but I don't think that the base for the Immortal is larger. The proportions don't seem right.

It seems that you will be able to make several units from the same kit... I mean, Immortals and Deathmarks seems to be from the same kit, so are the barges, arks, and Lytchguard/Preatorians. I love this idea... so there will be plenty of bitz to do conversions and such.

As far as the model hate, if you don't like them... don't buy them.

As for the 'They aren't as good as the DE..." they have to fit, stylistically, with the current range of models. I appreciate that GW isn't scrapping everything that came before. Once again, the rumors are that Wraiths, Destoyers and Warriors aren't going to change much. Thanks GW.

I can't wait to get the codex and start looking at combos... With the Deathmarks rumored ability... Necrons may be the army you DON"T want to deepstrike against.

Watchdog Deathmarks...lol

I wonder if their sniper rifles will be a standard sX wounds on 4+, pinning/rending weapon, or something different.

Flashman wrote:A thumbs up to most of the kits from me (flayed ones aside ).

I have no issue with the Necrontyr pilots of the barge or ark either. Remember, they aren't robots, they're beings interred inside a cybernetic construct. If you were one of the Necrontyr that got stuck being the spirit of some troop transport, you'd be pretty hacked off.

Here's my opinion on the pilot thing... Fall of Damnos describes Flayed Ones and Destroyers as 'diseased'. Destroyers exchange part of their body to improve their combat ability... You wouldn't want someone 'diseased' in control of your largest gun or driving your Lord around.

Yes, it points to a lot of individuality in the army. Good? Bad? Don't know yet... wait on the Codex before you make your decisions.

If they let me do something nasty to DropPods then i'm all for it.

Bulkoth wrote:I didn't see any one catch this yet, necron pricing is up on wayland games, http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/pre-orders/games-workshop/cat_531.html
The barge is alot cheaper than I expected.

Interesting... Kroot, you might want to edit the projected prices and/or that link into the OP.

Fall of Damnos or not, welding Necrons in any shape or form to a multi-necron-vehicle seems pretty dumb. What happens when that Necron phases out? How does the Lord order a new hench-robot to take its place? Or does the entire thing phase out because co-pilot 1 got a bolter-shell to the eye? Now that's going to go down REALLY well with the Overlord, I am sure.

If I ever see some hare-brain doing Necron-welded-to-vehicle conversion like that, I am gonna have to laugh so hard, my bladder-control will be severely tested. Seriously, pilots is the only sensible solution given the current background (with or without FoD).