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After looking at the command platform some more, I think I'll remove the 2 "pilots" and call it a day.

I like all of it. I didn't play original Necrons or Tomb Kings, so that affects my perception, maybe.

The amount of "bling" follows naturally from GW's desire to show off their moulding technology. GW games are generally about bling, excess and gigantism.

A quick overview shows the Necrons will have a very varied and capable force with a number of fun tricks.

However it will no doubt be a very expensive army to start from scratch. The question for current players is how well the new models fit the aesthetic of their existing armies.

I don't know about any one else but the space row boat makes not sense. Some of the troops I like.

Kilkrazy wrote:I like all of it. I didn't play original Necrons or Tomb Kings, so that affects my perception, maybe.

The amount of "bling" follows naturally from GW's desire to show off their moulding technology. GW games are generally about bling, excess and gigantism.

A quick overview shows the Necrons will have a very varied and capable force with a number of fun tricks.

However it will no doubt be a very expensive army to start from scratch. The question for current players is how well the new models fit the aesthetic of their existing armies.

I don't think it will be that expensive, compared to most of the other armies, at least. The only one I can think of that would really be cheaper would be a Grey Knights army. Of course this is speculation based on the current rumor mill. Will have to wait until November 5th to know for sure.

I wonder if they are going to change the battleforce.

So, KK, Going to get some Necrons?

The vehicles are not great. The size appears excessive and they look like a pain in the ass to put together.

The transports are growing on me, but i'm not a fan of the Barge model at all.

I will certainly buy the codex and see if i like it.
it does appear that they are makign the necrons a more diverse army, with the options of running a predominantly shooty or CC army if you want to.

Those jump infanty look pretty cool too.

Will withhold full judgement until i've read the codex.

Oh, goody - someone is still trying to push the 'Fail fleet' (non) joke.

There must be more new models coming. There was supposed to be a plastic Tomb Spyder - I'd be really surprised if the current version simply got switched to Finecast.

tetrisphreak wrote:

I'd like to outshoot tau and also be decent in close combat without having a big "U" on my shoulder pads.

Don't know what world you're living in, but the boys in blue melt in close combat.

Or maybe you mistook the inverted omega sign for a blood drop with wings?

This is my reaction to the new Necrons

Looking closer at the trasnport, it does appear to be quite mean in that it looks like it has 5 gauss flayers sticking out of either side.

Assumign they still have the same stats and are still S4 (therefore defensive weapons) that means that this coudl move 6" and still fire 10 gauss flayers. if the rumour about the monolith being able to fire at different targets is true this coudl apply to the transport aas well.


So, move 6" and park it between 2 enemy units, hit both units with 10 S4 AP5 shots (assumging that gauss flayers have the same rules as they do now). If they are indeed open topped then the units inside can then deploy, fire and charge. EEP.

The more I look at them (not at 00:30 AM) the more I think ... maybe they'll not be too bad. The do look 'over blinged' though. I think it will depend for me on what minis are in plastic and what are in finecast. I don't like finecast.

Phototoxin wrote:They do look 'over blinged' though.

This is a trend in GW minis I do not like. The minis are getting increasingly "busy."

The paintjob doesn't help.

I like my necrons a little less gold-plated

Praxiss wrote:Looking closer at the trasnport, it does appear to be quite mean in that it looks like it has 5 gauss flayers sticking out of either side.

Assumign they still have the same stats and are still S4 (therefore defensive weapons) that means that this coudl move 6" and still fire 10 gauss flayers. if the rumour about the monolith being able to fire at different targets is true this coudl apply to the transport aas well.


So, move 6" and park it between 2 enemy units, hit both units with 10 S4 AP5 shots (assumging that gauss flayers have the same rules as they do now). If they are indeed open topped then the units inside can then deploy, fire and charge. EEP.

That sounds pretty OTT.

Also, maybe it's me , but couldn't the Necron use troop transports to where they can't teleport? Like during some kind of a planetary storm.

Sasori wrote:You know, I'm wondering if the "Overlord" with the Rez Orb is a Cryptek. He doesn't look near as "Authoritative" as the left Overlord.

Thats just the Lord from the Command Barge.

My concern is that, what transport and jump infantry etc coming out, will the Monolith telport option still even exist in the new codex? Or will it just be a Land Raider equivilent with a normal transport capacity?

The extra bling is a little bit of an eye-sore. But as mentioned above, the paintjob in the pics does emphasise all of it. I'm guessing you could use a less obvious colour scheme and effectively hide a lot of the bling if you wanted to. That's what i'll be doing anyway.

Kanluwen wrote:

Warboss Gubbinz wrote:This all looks well and good but i can't help but wonder if this was a controlled leak or if GW is fuming at the moment over their failed 'Dun Tell the Intarwebz' policy.

Could be either/or.

The way it's looking, the timing of these photos being taken from White Dwarf and the recent "connect the dots" moment of a Polish source reporting this and the realization that White Dwarf is now printed in Poland means either GW's gone out of their way to begin establishing their own "rumormonger" who will feed pretty quality photos of White Dwarf "hot ticket" content to the Internet at large...or GW's got a leak from the printing company doing White Dwarf.

The only thing that gives the 'intentional leak' idea any weight is that they've released all the pretty pictures but none of the prices and other details. But that's pretty thin evidence, maybe the person copying the material just did the interesting stuff. I don't see GW voluntarily releasing pictures of their latest shiny things through a 3rd party website and not in WD or their stores which is their current approach. They want their stuff to be seen first in WD and at their stores to bring people in to see anything new, they don't want it all over the internet so we don't have to go to GW or buy WD.

On the topic of headdresses, I'm glad they aren't any more big and obnoxious than they are (and they could have been much worse considering what GW has put out in the past), but they still look a little weird. Every single one just makes it look like the model has big goofy ears in my opinion. Minor complaint I guess since I'm assuming they could be removed without much effort, just snip and file smooth. And like it's been said, the paint might not be helping much, either. Despite that I like the lords and characters a lot. I might actually buy a couple just to paint them, and I never really do that.

The only models I don't really like are the command/support barge and the flayed ones. The lychguard with swords and shields don't make much sense, either...I mean the shields look awesome, don't get me wrong, it's just that considering how high-tech the Necrons are supposed to be you would expect like an actual force field or something and not something so primitive.

I'm not floored like I was when the Dark Eldar came out, but nothing here really "offends" me so I'd say they did alright. Could have been worse.

The flayed ones do suck, though. If it's a plastic box set then I'd really like to see what other kinds of models the kit can make because the ones they chose to photograph weren't very good.

So my thoughts;

The Command Barge looks a bit weird, it looks like something you would see on the bridge of a spaceship floating around on the battlefield. I'm also not sure how its going to work in game, is it supposed to be a transport for a single IC? Or some quasi Dreadnought/HQ? Overall I would say its a decent model, nothing a little creative modelling can't fix. The support platform version which you can see in the background actually looks quite good as is, basically just looks like a massive floating gun with 2 crew, which is fine by me.

The Ghost Ark also looks a bit weird, mostly because of the guns sticking out the side which as people have pointed out make them look like oars. Combined with the fact that the Necrons in the transport are clearly in some kind of folded up state but missing their weapons I'm having trouble working out how everything would functionally work (how do they actually disembark? if the guns sticking out the side are their weapons the unit inside uses why are they also present on the Doomsday Ark? if not where are their weapons?). From a game balance perspective Necrons need some proper vehicles and the Resurrection Ship/Droid Transport is a good concept to build on, its been around for quite a while anyway as a Jes concept sketch. Again I think some more pictures + allowing for some alterations to the construction and you will have a good model.

The Doomsday Ark looks terrible, my first impression is that it been assembled the wrong way up but even then it has issues. The entire front section being upside down compared to the Ghost Ark makes it look completely out of proportion and unbalanced. Functionally the single main gun looks pointlessly long and a nightmare to actually use (both functionally and in game) since its not on a turret and the vehicle is pretty big. I can't even imagine how you could mount that thing on a flying stand properly.

The 4 Lord models look more like what I would expect from any character model, more detail and bigger/more dangerous looking. Certainly they look more like characters than the current line (which is pretty uniform across the board), its been strongly hinted that they were going to expand the fluff to allow for intelligent Lords + automaton Warriors for ages, so I was expecting something along these lines. That said both the special character Lords look pretty meh, Trazyn more than than Imotekh, because they are very static sculpts. The standard Lord on the left looks pretty awesome for the opposite reason, he has a very dynamic pose.

The Deathmarks look cool, very high tech looking with a definite stalker/sniper feel to them, which make sense with the sniper unit rumour.

Lychguard just look like the replacements for Pariahs, with some added bulk and less of a flat/minimalistic styling, continuing with the concept of a scale from automatons up to Lords (so Elite units get more bling as befits their rank and intelligence). Will be interesting to see if Pariahs still make the list at all actually. Both the weapon options look pretty cool.

Triarch Praetorians look ok, certainly not as good as the Lychguard imo. The alternative versions look terrible actually, the poses are very awkward. The lefthand model, is posed as if he is about to swing his right hand forward to hit something ... with his gun, the right model is just awkwardly standing there with his blade weapon held in front of him as if its a massive shield. One thing I'm not sure about is their size, they look pretty similar to Lychguard (similar armour, double handed glaive weapons), and it would be weird to have two such similar units in the army. If they are just a jump pack unit why not just add a backpack to the Lychguard. My current theory is that those are actually 40mm bases (unlikely but hard to get a sense of scale), which makes these guys the big Ushabti sized unit.

New Immortals look good, pretty similar to the old ones but they have managed to make them look both more imposing and more minimalistic (clean/futuristic look). Alternative weapons look interesting as well.

Finally the Flayed Ones, who imo are the worst of these models by some distance. I'm not a huge fan of the current versions, conceptually they are interesting (even if they are useless in game) but I can't actually decide if the new ones are better. The poses on the old ones look like the have just been punched in the kidneys and are doubled over in pain while still trying to look menacing. The new ones look like they are trying to be stealthy and pose for a photo at the same time. The real issue is the skin though, the old ones look like they are robots wearing badly Flayed Skin (hence the name) but the new ones don't at all. Its a combination of bad positioning (like someone just got strips of greenstuff and draped them everywhere with no real thought involved), including no covering on the legs (which makes them look top heavy) and the fact that the skin looks both far too thick and far too uniform (so it looks like a long scarf draped around them). I agree the colour scheme doesn't help, but I wouldn't call it a PG colour scheme because there is plenty of gore on the models which are carrying around partial torsos.

I actually think the Egyptian/TK theme isn't as extreme as some people are making out, not that its really a bad thing anyway. Certainly all these new models are orders of magnitude more detailed than anything in the existing line (which is never a bad thing), but the Egyptian styling are fairly subtle and imo are being heavily emphasised by the colour scheme. Remove the gold from the Lych Guard or Praetorians and emphasis the greens and you end up looking much closer to the Deathmarks (who don't look like Tomb Kings at all). A different paint scheme and a little bit of effort and you can remove the detail if you are so inclined.

Now we just have to wait for some concrete updates on the rules, which will be very interesting given that it looks like Necrons are in for something approaching a Dark Eldar scale reboot.

Sasori wrote:

Flachzange wrote:Excellent release in my book! Sure, the flayed ones may be a bit off, but overall, this is what Ive been waiting for.

Now all I got to do is wait a few months till Necs arent the "current" flavor anymore ....

Why? Who cares?

If you like the release, it shouldn't matter if it's th current flavor or not.

I care Its just my personal preference. I dont enjoy playing against the same army over and over and over again. Itll be just like the GK release ...
The entire store got into em. And they will now be switching to the Necs. When DA or BT come around, they will get into that. Ill use the time to get some fluff together. I think with the right color choices, this army can really pop a whole lot more.

Well, the models look good, but few of them are "wowz!" good. It's just like they couldn't break out of "Tomb Kings in space" mold. And if anything, they are LESS blingy than some of the other new GW stuff - which isn't necessarily bad thing, given that it's Necrons.

New Immortals and Lords are an improvement. Old Lord looked anorectic. Good they got rid of the Lego tubes.

Flayed Ones don't look good, except the one with a freshly flayed corpse.

Still not changed my mind after a nights sleep, I quite like it all.

It definitely looks like a GW info release to me, decent clear scans of the shineys, no prices and most strangely what I would consider the biggest non reveal - troops and monolith. They are new or the same eithr way massive news and sure to be confirmed in the release WD. Sorry chums this seems managed.

As for the ark not having a teleport gate, well you can't have everything the same or you would only have small, medium and original flavour monoliths - boring!

I really like this release so far. They're not too Tomb King-y for me (except for maybe the lords). I think my favorite so far is the Lych Guard with the swords and shields. Too bad I don't have any money!

I like the designs of the vehicles and all, but the whole thing looks too..... human. They don't feel like soulless automatons out to harvest life.

Like for example one of the riders is gesturing for his warriors to move, but why would they ever need to do that? Humans do those kind of gestures, robots not so much.

Just a personal taste thing though, they do look nice regardless

Alkasyn wrote:

Praxiss wrote:Looking closer at the trasnport, it does appear to be quite mean in that it looks like it has 5 gauss flayers sticking out of either side.

Assumign they still have the same stats and are still S4 (therefore defensive weapons) that means that this coudl move 6" and still fire 10 gauss flayers. if the rumour about the monolith being able to fire at different targets is true this coudl apply to the transport aas well.


So, move 6" and park it between 2 enemy units, hit both units with 10 S4 AP5 shots (assumging that gauss flayers have the same rules as they do now). If they are indeed open topped then the units inside can then deploy, fire and charge. EEP.

That sounds pretty OTT.

Also, maybe it's me , but couldn't the Necron use troop transports to where they can't teleport? Like during some kind of a planetary storm.

You know...that's actually a good point.
Problem is though that they teleport from vehicles that are already deployed on the field (ie, the monolith), but I guess that is a possible reason.

The models look great. To those of you fuming (I WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS!?!? WHAT IS THIS SOME KIND OF NEW NECRON1/1/1/1!?), some of you people are impossible to please, it would seem.

I like them a lot the more I look at them. The transport is especially cool, reminds me of this;




but not lego...

Also, Flayed Ones, those clearly arent huge flaps of skin but rags, which is cool in my book. Theres only a little bit of gore on them.

Have to agree with the majority here. Really dont like the look of those Flayed ones.

But that Ghost Ark/Doomsday Ark gets nicer everytime I look at it. But still depends on what rules it ends up getting.

Happy that the immortal looks pretty mcuh the same as they do now. meansmy current ones wont look too stupid next to the new ones.

I'm guessing if you have a load of Pariah models you could play those as Lychguard instead without too much hassle.

Wow. After all this time of getting my butt kicked, I think I'm finally going to be happy to be fielding my crons. I DO wonder about how compatible some of my old models will be, and I will definitely miss the old glowing green rods (Anyone else worried about their freehand ability? ) but the thought of having sniper units makes me smile. The new flayed ones are kind of... odd. They don't really look like they're even pretending to disguise themselves, but I have the old metal ones anyway (Oh wait, that's cloth? Well that's quite cool, but they could've painted it better.) Now, I want to see the new warriors and monolith. I loved their old design (okay, the crystal on the monolith is goofy) and I definitely won't be replacing them, but I am curious what the new mainstays will look like. Also, where are the destroyers?

Well Ill def grab the codex and Im probably gona build an army again for them.

Just need to finish my DE and GK army lol...

Looks like the Necrons just got a whole lot more interesting. I look forward to fighting 'em at my LGS.