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At first I loved collecting hats, but i don't like what blizzard do with the hair :<

Yeah thats annoying.

I really hope that gets looked at eventually, when they get around to updating the other WoW races to Pandaren level.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Yeah thats annoying.

I really hope that gets looked at eventually, when they get around to updating the other WoW races to Pandaren level.

My Dranei, just want to wear her hat :x

Oh aye, awesome hat, especially when the ability to make high lvl gear look like other items you possess comes in with 4.3


I know this will totally shock folks, considering my Username and all, but my Holy Priestess is going to be upgrading the Blackweave set.

ohh baby. I was thinking about it, and I am going to go for Bloodsail just for you guys.

I think I'm one of those people, that when Wrath of the Lich King was fully done (ie, The Lich King was defeatable), that was it for me.

To me, Warcraft revolved around the story of Arthas because whilst I started with WC and WC2, I was very young and it didn't stick with me. WC3 was where I really got into the whole thing. Of course, I'm not speaking for anyone else by that.

I tried Cataclysm, but it wasn't holding me and I think I finally escaped WoW after playing from the very beginning.

MrDwhitey wrote:I think I'm one of those people, that when Wrath of the Lich King was fully done (ie, The Lich King was defeatable), that was it for me.

To me, Warcraft revolved around the story of Arthas because whilst I started with WC and WC2, I was very young and it didn't stick with me. WC3 was where I really got into the whole thing. Of course, I'm not speaking for anyone else by that.

I tried Cataclysm, but it wasn't holding me and I think I finally escaped WoW after playing from the very beginning.

Wrath was the end of the story for me. The game can still be fun, but they dorked up aspects of the gameplay I enjoyed.

60 twinks can't get their 51 point talents anymore and now that brackets are 60-64, its dominated by 64s stacking 20 resil gems in BC socket gear.

70 was dominated by Shadow Priests, Mages, and Healers.

80 is a burst fest.

85 is lame, even vanilla pvp was more fun.

Amaya wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Pah. This expansion is made for the Casuals who play 1 hour a day and expect to have full epics. Pandas are unintersting and boring.

That was an intelligent and well thought out response. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Not my fault epic gear is being handed out too easy.

Thats why there are Tiers for Epics.

MrDwhitey wrote:I think I'm one of those people, that when Wrath of the Lich King was fully done (ie, The Lich King was defeatable), that was it for me.

To me, Warcraft revolved around the story of Arthas because whilst I started with WC and WC2, I was very young and it didn't stick with me. WC3 was where I really got into the whole thing. Of course, I'm not speaking for anyone else by that.

I tried Cataclysm, but it wasn't holding me and I think I finally escaped WoW after playing from the very beginning.

QFT. It just got stupid after Arthas died.

rockerbikie wrote:

Amaya wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Pah. This expansion is made for the Casuals who play 1 hour a day and expect to have full epics. Pandas are unintersting and boring.

That was an intelligent and well thought out response. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Not my fault epic gear is being handed out too easy.

And other people getting epic gear is relevant to you how exactly? Oh, wait, it's not. You're just an elitist prick who doesn't want to see anyone that doesn't play 8 hours a day, 7 days a week getting gear the same tier color as yours.

Completely ignore the fact that the easy to acquire epics are several ilevels lower than the stuff hardcore players will get, which alone renders your point invalid and moot.

TLDR; Cry more.

LunaHound wrote:WoW = Mix of all the best MMORPG elements + TF2

WoW = mediocre generic borefest with a gak graphical style.

Amaya wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:

Amaya wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Pah. This expansion is made for the Casuals who play 1 hour a day and expect to have full epics. Pandas are unintersting and boring.

That was an intelligent and well thought out response. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Not my fault epic gear is being handed out too easy.

And other people getting epic gear is relevant to you how exactly? Oh, wait, it's not. You're just an elitist prick who doesn't want to see anyone that doesn't play 8 hours a day, 7 days a week getting gear the same tier color as yours.

Completely ignore the fact that the easy to acquire epics are several ilevels lower than the stuff hardcore players will get, which alone renders your point invalid and moot.

TLDR; Cry more.

Yeah, he's a bit late in the day to go on the epics rant too.

Epics stopped being "an Epic is an Epic" and became varying "ilevels" ages ago.

The Crusade arena (forgot real name) epics were like greens to people.

Wow, really people complaining about others getting epics in here?

First tier of raiding in Cata wasn't too bad, dunno about Firelands.

Probably will check out the expansion depending on what else is out.

Putting it bluntly:
Epics stopped being epic when you were able to craft them using Bind on Equip materials or things you could obtain via Heroics.

When you had raid materials involved, different story. But putting it even more bluntly...

Who cares who could get epics? Epics were nothing but a carrot on a stick dangling before the horse, keeping those of us who raided to continue raiding and keeping those of us who did not raid wanting to raid.

Kanluwen wrote:Putting it bluntly:
Epics stopped being epic when you were able to craft them using Bind on Equip materials or things you could obtain via Heroics.

When you had raid materials involved, different story. But putting it even more bluntly...

Who cares who could get epics? Epics were nothing but a carrot on a stick dangling before the horse, keeping those of us who raided to continue raiding and keeping those of us who did not raid wanting to raid.

Remember vanilla when wearing blue dungeon tier gear was fething amazing?

Cryage wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Putting it bluntly:
Epics stopped being epic when you were able to craft them using Bind on Equip materials or things you could obtain via Heroics.

When you had raid materials involved, different story. But putting it even more bluntly...

Who cares who could get epics? Epics were nothing but a carrot on a stick dangling before the horse, keeping those of us who raided to continue raiding and keeping those of us who did not raid wanting to raid.

Remember vanilla when wearing blue dungeon tier gear was fething amazing?

I remember thinking "That's a good guild right there" because it had a warlock with full Dreadmist.

I remember when PvPers 's first time receiving epics.

Ooo the raiders cried and cried for months

But my purples are my entire sense of self-worth! If casuals can get purples, HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW HOW SPECIAL I AM!?

RatBot wrote:But my purples are my entire sense of self-worth! If casuals can get purples, HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW HOW SPECIAL I AM!?

You raiders still get your epics.

Its just us pvpers, ours are "welfare epics"

T-T

MrDwhitey wrote:

Cryage wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Putting it bluntly:
Epics stopped being epic when you were able to craft them using Bind on Equip materials or things you could obtain via Heroics.

When you had raid materials involved, different story. But putting it even more bluntly...

Who cares who could get epics? Epics were nothing but a carrot on a stick dangling before the horse, keeping those of us who raided to continue raiding and keeping those of us who did not raid wanting to raid.

Remember vanilla when wearing blue dungeon tier gear was fething amazing?

I remember thinking "That's a good guild right there" because it had a warlock with full Dreadmist.

Remember when Dreadmist was a purple defias mask... man i miss that headpiece, it looked bad ass.

I mean, this looked WAY better than the galactus helm

RatBot wrote:But my purples are my entire sense of self-worth! If casuals can get purples, HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW HOW SPECIAL I AM!?

I'm certain you had a different post here.

LunaHound wrote:Its just us pvpers, ours are "welfare epics"

I remember that. Started for me at 61 when I was using full grand marshal to level my priest in Burning Crusade.

MrDwhitey wrote:

RatBot wrote:But my purples are my entire sense of self-worth! If casuals can get purples, HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW HOW SPECIAL I AM!?

I'm certain you had a different post here.

LunaHound wrote:Its just us pvpers, ours are "welfare epics"

I remember that. Started for me at 61 when I was using full grand marshal to level my priest in Burning Crusade.

Remember in burning Crusade when you did 20 quests and replaced all of it? lol, i was SOOOO anger that I got rid of my benediction/anathema staff after the first hour of the expansion pack.

The stockholder for Dreadmist. I only ever saw it once.

And yeah, I replaced Anathema/Benediction fast, the GM gear last to 65ish (I took bits off until I just had one item left to replace), but that's partially because I loved the looks of GM gear.

I had a longer rant but decided that I could sum it up better in two sentences.

Also, the whole "replaced two levels into an expansion" thing is exactly why your purples don't really matter (well, that and they're digital items in a video game). Everything you do is going to be invalidated eventually. Might as well just do it because you find the content fun, not because you gotta have the uber-leet item. The uber-leet item is just a nice bonus.

RatBot wrote:I had a longer rant but decided that I could sum it up better in two sentences.

Also, the whole "replaced two levels into an expansion" thing is exactly why your purples don't really matter (well, that and they're digital items in a video game). Everything you do is going to be invalidated eventually. Might as well just do it because you find the content fun, not because you gotta have the uber-leet item. The uber-leet item is just a nice bonus.

C'est la vie :3

The reason PvPers were said to have "welfare epics" actually had nothing to do with PvPing.

It came about courtesy of Wrath of the Lich King, with the addition of that Loot Pinata Archavon. Seriously one of the easiest fights within the game, and he dropped gear equivalent to that which the raiders were having to 'work' towards and hope for specific tokens to drop, etc.

"Welfare epics" in the context of PvP came about in the Burning Crusade though, with the addition of Arena Gear to Honor Point vendors.

LunaHound wrote:Thats why there are Tiers for Epics.

Casuals don't deserve raids or epics.

rockerbikie wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Thats why there are Tiers for Epics.

Casuals don't deserve raids or epics.

"They don't deserve the endgame that Blizz focus so much on! How will I show my self-worth if anyone can enjoy the game they paid money for!"

Hmmm... I can't tell if this is a troll or not. Gonna have to ask my friend, Mister Joe Kerr. What do you think, Joe?



Drat.


EDIT: Whoops, didn't hit quote. Obviously, I am responding to Rockerbikie's post. Sounds like you're mad you don't have to poopsock anymore to enjoy end-game content.