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You guys are killing me. I don't need more options and trying to sneak more than one big dragon (that will rarely see the gamign table) past the wife is a dangerous proposition!


Just found this pic over on the reaper forum that only makes the decision harder.

Eilif wrote:You guys are killing me. I don't need more options and trying to sneak more than one big dragon (that will rarely see the gamign table) past the wife is a dangerous proposition!

Well, they are only $10 big dragons...

Do what my wife does when she comes back from the mall with a UHaul truck of stuff in tow...say "I didn't spend $300 - I saved $600".

"What do you mean I got loads of models in the post? I've had those for ages! Just had them shipped from [insert parents/family/etc] as they've been looking after them for me!"

SilverMK2 wrote:"What do you mean I got loads of models in the post? I've had those for ages! Just had them shipped from [insert parents/family/etc] as they've been looking after them for me!"

Why have I never thought of this ?! It's BRILLIANT in it's simplicity !!!


So far I'm partial to the Black Dragon ... the scales on the latest are a bit over-large for my tastes.

Myrthe wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:"What do you mean I got loads of models in the post? I've had those for ages! Just had them shipped from [insert parents/family/etc] as they've been looking after them for me!"

Why have I never thought of this ?! It's BRILLIANT in it's simplicity !!!


So far I'm partial to the Black Dragon ... the scales on the latest are a bit over-large for my tastes.

Either that, or just spend a day "cleaning" your game room and throw the miniatures out when you are done. Chances are good she won't even notice the new stuff is there if you move enough stuff around.

Regarding the White Dragon - most of the early Reaper Dragons were based on the D&D artwork from the period. If you look at this picture of a White Dragon it is a good match to Deathsleet:

http://www.dotd.com/mm/MM00058.htm

In that same manor, Ebonwrath is a good match for the old artwork for the Black Dragon:

http://www.dotd.com/mm/MM00054.htm

Figure per figure, I think this is one of the better deals out there.

I'm in deep, by the way.

Those dragons, are around 30 bucks or so, if I recall.

As long as they can fix that darned bubbles, and cureing of the resin, I'd be good to go with them.

Grot 6 wrote:As long as they can fix that darned bubbles, and cureing of the resin, I'd be good to go with them.

Bubbles? Resin?

These are actually injection molded with plastic (not HIPS, but plastic of some form). Their shouldn't be bubbles and no need to wait on resin to cure (or the problems related to bad resin casts/mixes).

But, yes - the projected MSRP on the dragons will be in the $30 range according to Reaper. Right now - they go for $60+ in metal. So, if you buy in now you get a awesome deal. If you wait till they are available retail, you only get a good deal.

Not long to go until the contents of the mausoleum are revealed!

Slinky wrote:Not long to go until the contents of the mausoleum are revealed!

I know I cant wait..

ruff wrote:

Slinky wrote:Not long to go until the contents of the mausoleum are revealed!

I know I cant wait..

thats fantastic!

Upping my pledge.. again.

$215 if my math is right to get all of the models... so far.

Wowzers the Vampire Level is getting incredible!

kenshin620 wrote:Wowzers the Vampire Level is getting incredible!

I'd go so far as to say "unmissable"

Ho-Lee-Crap!

I started a thread a couple of days ago at Reaper forums asking how much folks would pledge for a Chronoscope Bones kickstarter.

Am I clairvoyant, or did I just miss the boat again?

You decide!

The Chronoscope line going Bones is excellent.

I'm starting to think Reaper's long term plan might to be switch the majority of their prodcution to Bones eventually.

They release 12 old sculpts as Bones and 1 in 3 miniatures sold becomes Bones. What's going to happen when there are over a hundred? They've also confirmed that they are slowly moving production over to their Texas location (with no final timeframe to be announced as they don't know how long it will take).

Found a pic of that giant in play:

The big question is not how many bones vs metal they sell,

it's are they selling LESS metal now bones has come in.

My guess is a lot of the bones sales so far is in addition (as it's so cheap, and so few sculpts)


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But I bet they plan to do their large figures that way

a dragon at $70 is hard to sell, at $25 it's nearly an impulse buy

Tin prices could shoot up again if Indonesia manages to actually enforce it's embargo on tin concentrate leaving the country without being smelted into bars and the 25% tax on mining. This is a good hedge against that.

czakk wrote:Found a pic of that giant in play:

Poor giant looks a tad too big for that base!


These big models are excellent

From what I understand, ReaperBryan has said they sell one in three miniatures being bones and have not had any drop in metal sales since Bones was released.

That giant skeleton is rather large. I've never been a fan of giant figures in a pose where they are striking down at smaller targets. It's neat and all, but I find it looks a bit strange when there are no targets nearby. I much prefer a more "ready for action" pose for large centerpiece type models.

Luckily, the material is easy to cut - and skeletons are cake to repose.

You sort of have to wonder how many of those will be pressed into service in Tomb King armies? $57.75 for a Finecast Bone Giant versus $10 for a Bones Giant Skeleton.

I've been debating the possibility of getting hosed by customs (being like all foreign and stuff) and the "deal" not being that great because of it but...


HOLY CRAPOLA Chronoscope?!

The Bone Giant is very very good as well, but TEN extra figures and some of them I had on my wishlist for a while now (but have a big list to go through ), Chronoscope is going to break me, tsk and I've just splurged on an airbrush, I guess one can always be business like and just report this as a 2013 "future" expense.

That's an excellent point. It actually looks like reposing that thing would be really easy. Cut the hips and reattach the legs at a slightly higher angle, cut the ankles as needed and then cut a few vertibrae to straighten his back. Perhaps change his arm angle and the angle he is looking at.

It might also work to throw it in boiling water, straighten the back and then plunge it into ice water to set it in the new position.

frozenwastes wrote:From what I understand, ReaperBryan has said they sell one in three miniatures being bones and have not had any drop in metal sales since Bones was released.

That giant skeleton is rather large. I've never been a fan of giant figures in a pose where they are striking down at smaller targets. It's neat and all, but I find it looks a bit strange when there are no targets nearby. I much prefer a more "ready for action" pose for large centerpiece type models.

I understand what you mean. I think reposing one of these large bones figures would be pretty easy if you're inclined to convert your models at all - especially compared to metals. In fact, you've just given me the idea to to just that with this guy - so thanks!


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frozenwastes wrote:That's an excellent point. It actually looks like reposing that thing would be really easy. Cut the hips and reattach the legs at a slightly higher angle, cut the ankles as needed and then cut a few vertibrae to straighten his back. Perhaps change his arm angle and the angle he is looking at.

It might also work to throw it in boiling water, straighten the back and then plunge it into ice water to set it in the new position.

You could also do that, then drill out the spine and insert some brass rod into it. That won't ever bend back!
I tried to repose the wings from their prepaint Gargoyle figure, and they looked like they would stay in place - until the following morning when they'd bent back again...

Wutwut wrote:I've been debating the possibility of getting hosed by customs (being like all foreign and stuff) and the "deal" not being that great because of it but...


HOLY CRAPOLA Chronoscope?!

The Bone Giant is very very good as well, but TEN extra figures and some of them I had on my wishlist for a while now (but have a big list to go through ), Chronoscope is going to break me, tsk and I've just splurged on an airbrush, I guess one can always be business like and just report this as a 2013 "future" expense.

You'll have to check the shipping FAQ for international customers, but I think they will be declaring your pledge value on custom forms, so 100 bucks for vampire, instead of the MSRP of all the figs. That might help.


Found it:

We will determine the customs declaration value of your shipment based on the Pledge Level(s) you chose in your backer survey. We will use the single highest pledge level you have chosen as your customs value.
As examples: if you want two Vampire Levels your receipt will show $100 as that is your single highest Pledge Level. If you are a Ghast Level and added paint and Orcs your receipt will show $15.00.

czakk wrote:

Found it:

We will determine the customs declaration value of your shipment based on the Pledge Level(s) you chose in your backer survey. We will use the single highest pledge level you have chosen as your customs value.
As examples: if you want two Vampire Levels your receipt will show $100 as that is your single highest Pledge Level. If you are a Ghast Level and added paint and Orcs your receipt will show $15.00.

Damn it dude stop finding holes in my excuses not to buy extra stuffs!

Plastic Chronoscope minis.. OMFGE.

scipio.au wrote:

frozenwastes wrote:From what I understand, ReaperBryan has said they sell one in three miniatures being bones and have not had any drop in metal sales since Bones was released.

That giant skeleton is rather large. I've never been a fan of giant figures in a pose where they are striking down at smaller targets. It's neat and all, but I find it looks a bit strange when there are no targets nearby. I much prefer a more "ready for action" pose for large centerpiece type models.

I understand what you mean. I think reposing one of these large bones figures would be pretty easy if you're inclined to convert your models at all - especially compared to metals. In fact, you've just given me the idea to to just that with this guy - so thanks!


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frozenwastes wrote:That's an excellent point. It actually looks like reposing that thing would be really easy. Cut the hips and reattach the legs at a slightly higher angle, cut the ankles as needed and then cut a few vertibrae to straighten his back. Perhaps change his arm angle and the angle he is looking at.

It might also work to throw it in boiling water, straighten the back and then plunge it into ice water to set it in the new position.

You could also do that, then drill out the spine and insert some brass rod into it. That won't ever bend back!
I tried to repose the wings from their prepaint Gargoyle figure, and they looked like they would stay in place - until the following morning when they'd bent back again...

frozenwastes wrote:That's an excellent point. It actually looks like reposing that thing would be really easy. Cut the hips and reattach the legs at a slightly higher angle, cut the ankles as needed and then cut a few vertibrae to straighten his back. Perhaps change his arm angle and the angle he is looking at.

It might also work to throw it in boiling water, straighten the back and then plunge it into ice water to set it in the new position.

Some of the stuff I have heat bent stayed bent, some of it rebent. Usually if it was fairly thick, it would rebend unless I let it warm for a considerable time period (guessing it didn't warm all the way to the center - so the core retained the memory of the original position).

The big thing though is that with these being a nice light plastic you don't have all the issues with the cutting, drilling and pinning. When I reposed on of my giant skeletons, I had him upright with a knight figure in his off hand and both hands over his head (sort of roaring like you see in the movies). Had to cut almost every joint (not fun with metal), pin each joint (because gravity is a bitch) and finally putty a bit more than I would have liked to because I needed to use a sawzall to cut him up (not really - but the jeweler's blade still didn't leave the cleanest of cuts). The plastic, I can cut with a hobby knife...if I feel like pinning it, it drills out very easily and I shouldn't have to worry about wobbly model syndrome.

Sean_OBrien wrote:

Some of the stuff I have heat bent stayed bent, some of it rebent. Usually if it was fairly thick, it would rebend unless I let it warm for a considerable time period (guessing it didn't warm all the way to the center - so the core retained the memory of the original position).

I've not worked much with Bones, but working with other Vinyl PVC figs, this has been my experience. Some stays, some doesn't.

Sean_OBrien wrote:
The big thing though is that with these being a nice light plastic you don't have all the issues with the cutting, drilling and pinning. When I reposed on of my giant skeletons, I had him upright with a knight figure in his off hand and both hands over his head (sort of roaring like you see in the movies). Had to cut almost every joint (not fun with metal), pin each joint (because gravity is a bitch) and finally putty a bit more than I would have liked to because I needed to use a sawzall to cut him up (not really - but the jeweler's blade still didn't leave the cleanest of cuts). The plastic, I can cut with a hobby knife...if I feel like pinning it, it drills out very easily and I shouldn't have to worry about wobbly model syndrome.

This is the real bonus. PVC'ish figs are a breeze to cut, the lightness means that you don't have to worry about joins of heavy limbs and such. I've converted alot of of these kind of figs and it's so easy that it actually makes buying multiples of one fig more realistic as you know you can easily convert them.