Reaper Miniatures' Bones figures has a Kickstarter

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**Bolognesus**

@Sean
point is, that 150fig case is like bringing a bazooka to a gun fight for skirmish games

@Eilif
Yeah, I've seen your tutorial. it's a great way to make some cheap mini transportation - if you can get the foam cheap.
which, again, around here... blegh...

all they sell is a kind of isolation foam which I'd not want to use near my minis; it's kind of abrasive! (and even stiffer than battlefoam which is decidedly on the rigid side for my tastes...)
getting polyurethane foam is possible, but only in spray can form (and that doesn't form open cell foam, sadly...).
getting good open cell foam is possible but either stupidly expensive or in quantities of close to a m3.
which, for the metrically impaired, is ~35 cubic feet.
...so yeah, but, no

**ruff**

Eilif wrote:
Bolognesus wrote:
ruff wrote:I doubt the dragon will come with a case. Seeing the metal figs come in a blister.

Uhhm, you do realize he's a boxed set now?

Reaper boxed sets do come in a case. AFAIK, the large dragons formerly came in boxes.

However, I'm pretty sure this was answered on the reaper forums (hard to be sure when the "bones" thread is 74 pages long) to the effect that the dragons and paint sets do not come with a plastic case.

I'm pretty sure that they said they haven't even decided if the kickstarter figs (asside from the retailer deal) will come in blisters. They might, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they came bagged (or in one bag) without blisters. I assume the multipart models would be bagged separately.

If you want the reaper "boxed set" style case: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Case/latest

I'd advise skipping reaper and buying a pistol case of the same dimensions. Here's a few that cost less than half of a reaper case.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?sort=priceLow&catid=996&pagenumber=2
A pic of one

Reaper buys their cases from a company that also sells it as a pistol case and eggshell foam is eggshell foam, so I don't see a difference aside from the lack of silly sticker art

All that said, the miniatures case in the kickstarter is much larger, with precut trays, and an excellent deal at $25

Lmao this gives you a idea on the last time I bought one of the large figures. It's cool the come with a small case now.

**Eilif**

Sean_OBrien wrote:
Eilif wrote:With scavenged foam, I figure I probably spend about 2-4 dollars one each of my repurposed cases.

Crazy thing though is that on the high side - that isn't too much of a savings based on figures it can hold. The current design is 150 miniatures per case for $25. You get 30 miniatures for $4 in yours. To get the same number of miniatures, you would need 5 cases...$20. Not saying that yours isn't a good option, just pointing out that that case is a very good value.

Good point. The new Reaper case is an excellent deal and even though I've got a bunch of large plano cases -which cost 20 bucks after buying EVA base sheets and hold 180+ miniatures after modification- I'm still considering picking up one or more of the Reaper cases.

However, there really isn't a really good deal out there for small hardshell cases made specifically for minis. 16 bucks (even with free shipping) is a fair bit for a case that size that doesn't even have cut miniature cavities. The metal case above cost me 3 bucks, which is far better than just about any other small case option. For warband size cases, making your own is still the best deal by far.

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Bolognesus wrote:@Sean
point is, that 150fig case is like bringing a bazooka to a gun fight for skirmish games

@Eilif
Yeah, I've seen your tutorial. it's a great way to make some cheap mini transportation - if you can get the foam cheap.
which, again, around here... blegh...

...getting good open cell foam is possible but either stupidly expensive or in quantities of close to a m3.
which, for the metrically impaired, is ~35 cubic feet.

I recommend befriending someone (you probably know someone already) who works in a business where they get something fragile in the mail (alot of computer and tech companies are great for this) and having them get you some. I used to use (and still do a bit) small cardboard boxes to store minis. A friend of mine would periodically get small boxes in the mail at work that were not only a good size, but came with eggshell.

It's not likely to get you big sheets, but for filling small cases, it's just the thing.

Also, rolls of eggeshell foam are often sold quite cheaply at home stores as mattress pads.

**Bolognesus**

Eilif wrote:Also, rolls of eggeshell foam are often sold quite cheaply at home stores as mattress pads.

ah thanks, that's something I can work with (even though I'd rather have flat sheets rather than eggshell).

...now let's stop derailing the Reaper KS thread

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new goal:

and auto-include options available as paid extras:

...and an expanded map. yay!

**czakk**

[edit] - Ninja-ed [/edit]

A bunch of cool new updates.

The scale photo:

**bbb**

Not the demons I was hoping for, but glad to see some more big guys making it in. I'd love to see their big earth elemental guy at some point in Bones.

**Alpharius**

scarletsquig wrote:
Building up my shopping list for March next year, even though I won't be a backer.

Same here, especially as:

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
SilverMK2 wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:at least the large monsters will be out in plastic after the KS.

Yes they will proabably be twice the cost, but this may well prove cheaper for international buyers (if they don't want the rest of the vampire level)

Looking at the cost of the current giants, they will be about 4 times the cost, given that individual giants are between about $20-$40 each, and they are in here 2 for $10...

Reaper actually answered a question about the approx costs of the Giants/ebonwraith in Bones inthe KS chat (remember in the current calatlogue they're metal)

Giants would probably be $7.99 to $9.99

Ebonwraith would be $19.99 to $24.99

(as far as my memory goes). Now these arn't price promises from them, but should give an idea of what to expect

these are very nice prices later on down the road.

For when, you know, I might actually have money to spend after all the recent awesome Kickstarters + the new Infinity book!

**Azazelx**

scarletsquig wrote:
Considering that $100 is actually $150+ for me as a UK citizen ($25 shipping + 25% minimum customs fees), not having the ability to place a smaller pledge prevents me from supporting this one... if I could make a $60 pledge made up of the extras I want I'd only have to pay $5 shipping and wouldn't have to pay any customs fees at all since it would come in at under the import limit.

You could always "go in" with someone else for just the extras you want.

**Reaperbryan**

Eilif wrote:
However, there really isn't a really good deal out there for small hardshell cases made specifically for minis. 16 bucks (even with free shipping) is a fair bit for a case that size that doesn't even have cut miniature cavities. The metal case above cost me 3 bucks, which is far better than just about any other small case option. For warband size cases, making your own is still the best deal by far.

Outrider Hobbies is now making a laser-cut figure tray to fit our "boxed set dragon" case. Buy a boxed set, get the minis, get the case, get the foam from Outrider.

http://www.foamcorps.com/Reaper_c31.htm

**Eilif**

Reaperbryan wrote:
Eilif wrote:
However, there really isn't a really good deal out there for small hardshell cases made specifically for minis. 16 bucks (even with free shipping) is a fair bit for a case that size that doesn't even have cut miniature cavities. The metal case above cost me 3 bucks, which is far better than just about any other small case option. For warband size cases, making your own is still the best deal by far.

Outrider Hobbies is now making a laser-cut figure tray to fit our "boxed set dragon" case. Buy a boxed set, get the minis, get the case, get the foam from Outrider.

http://www.foamcorps.com/Reaper_c31.htm

Now this is a good deal! The price for the case by itself isn't worth it to me, but when it already comes with the figures buying a tray to fit in the case makes perfect sense. Great Idea!

**SilverMK2**

I don't suppose there is any chance of a full sized picture of the different models compiled in the same place (kind of like the big vampire level image here) but for all the other extra models?

I know there were the goal pictures, but I was hoping for something a little bigger just to see some more detail.

**Azazelx**

I know what you mean - it's as confusing as all hell now. I'm just planning to leave my pledge as-is for now, and make any adjustments in the last couple of days. I'm also hoping that Reaper will be doing a "pledge manager" of sorts after completion so we can shore up our purchaes. (my want list is going to be in the $500 range, and I won't have quite that much spare on the day).

Reaper Kickstarter email wrote:

And now a small announcement:

Things you should know!
Kickstarter only allows you to choose one pledge level. If you would like multiple levels, you need to select one of the levels you want. Then add the dollar amount required to receive all levels you want. Please note Crown Jewels are unique items and limited in quantity, so if you want one of these levels, you much choose this level to lock in your choice, and then add the dollar amount for other levels to your pledge. You can only select one limited level per Kickstarter account. That is their limitation, not ours. Several examples are listed below.

Liche Level (the boxed set of Reaper Con Sophies) DOES NOT include a Vampire Level. If you want both, when you pledge, select Liche or Vampire level, and adjust your total pledge amount to $210!

Add an additional $28 to your existing pledge to receive an extra Ghost-level Sophie. Add an additional $25 to your existing pledge to receive an extra Wraith-level Sophie.

To substitute a Ghost-level Sophie for the Wraith-level Sophie included in your Vampire level, please add an additional $3 to your Vampire pledge. This is the only substitution we are allowing.

All Crown Jewels include the full Vampire level pledge.

You must pledge at least the $1.00 Skeleton Level to qualify for the Options that are "available to everyone," by everyone we mean all backers.

Whether you pledge on day 1 or day 33, or during the first minute or the last minute, when you pledge the Vampire or Undertaker Level you will receive all no-charge stretch goals and be eligible to add all Options that we have reached.

After the project ends you will receive a backer survey via e-mail that will give you the ability to tell us how to apply any additional pledge beyond your selected level.

All Options and unlimited levels are unlimited. You can add to your pledge for as many as you want. Some Options require a minimum level to qualify for them.

INTERNATIONAL BACKERS:
If you are an international backer (not Canadian) do not combine the shipping amounts of multiple levels or Options, use the single highest shipping amount among your selections. Make sure you add the shipping amount to your pledge.

The international shipping charges in our Kickstarter program are designed for consumer-level shipments. International (not Canada) backers that select large quantities (5 or more) of a single Option or Pledge Level will need to contact us for additional shipping charges.

You will be responsible for any customs taxes, duties, and fees on your end. That is out of our control, and we will not mark any shipment in any way that is inconsistent with international law.

See the FAQ on the bottom of the home tab on our Kickstarter page for information about shipments and declaration of values so you can be prepared for their arrivals. We don't anticipate more than two shipments to you. If that changes, we will update the FAQ.

**Sean_OBrien**

SilverMK2 wrote:I don't suppose there is any chance of a full sized picture of the different models compiled in the same place (kind of like the big vampire level image here) but for all the other extra models?

I know there were the goal pictures, but I was hoping for something a little bigger just to see some more detail.

http://greg.botch.com/bones/

Is that helpful?

Each of the figures should be in there with links back to the metal version in their online catalog. Of course, there are still a few which are not connected - but those are some of the 15 or so new miniatures from this campaign.

**SilverMK2**

Sean_OBrien wrote:
SilverMK2 wrote:I don't suppose there is any chance of a full sized picture of the different models compiled in the same place (kind of like the big vampire level image here) but for all the other extra models?

I know there were the goal pictures, but I was hoping for something a little bigger just to see some more detail.

http://greg.botch.com/bones/

Is that helpful?

Each of the figures should be in there with links back to the metal version in their online catalog. Of course, there are still a few which are not connected - but those are some of the 15 or so new miniatures from this campaign.

That's awesome, and very useful.

Thanks

**Eilif**

scipio.au wrote:. I'm also hoping that Reaper will be doing a "pledge manager" of sorts after completion so we can shore up our purchaes. (my want list is going to be in the $500 range, and I won't have quite that much spare on the day).

Unfortunately this is unlikely. It sounds like the amount you pledge is what you have to pay when the kickstarter ends, with no mention of a payment plan. Luckly though, they should all be available in retail (slightly higher price) in 2013,

**czakk**

Eilif wrote:
scipio.au wrote:. I'm also hoping that Reaper will be doing a "pledge manager" of sorts after completion so we can shore up our purchaes. (my want list is going to be in the $500 range, and I won't have quite that much spare on the day).

Unfortunately this is unlikely. It sounds like the amount you pledge is what you have to pay when the kickstarter ends, with no mention of a payment plan. Luckly though, they should all be available in retail (slightly higher price) in 2013,

Reaperbryan has said that there will be a mechanism in place to increase your pledge after the ks closes - but if course they prefer you to pledge through the ks so goals get unlocked etc... I'd find you the exact quote but I'm on my phone.

**Reaperbryan**

czakk wrote:
Eilif wrote:
scipio.au wrote:. I'm also hoping that Reaper will be doing a "pledge manager" of sorts after completion so we can shore up our purchaes. (my want list is going to be in the $500 range, and I won't have quite that much spare on the day).

Unfortunately this is unlikely. It sounds like the amount you pledge is what you have to pay when the kickstarter ends, with no mention of a payment plan. Luckly though, they should all be available in retail (slightly higher price) in 2013,

Reaperbryan has said that there will be a mechanism in place to increase your pledge after the ks closes - but if course they prefer you to pledge through the ks so goals get unlocked etc... I'd find you the exact quote but I'm on my phone.

Yes, we are almost finished with the Pledge Manager, but anything you "add" after the fact doesn't count towards stretch goals, so I strongly encourage you to have as much as possible in your pledge at the time of close.

**czakk**

Next stretch goal announced - 6 more Heroes for Vampire pledgers. So .85 a mini now?

Also updated pics of the foam trays for the 25 dollar mini case.

**Sean_OBrien**

czakk wrote:Next stretch goal announced - 6 more Heroes for Vampire pledgers. So .85 a mini now?

And 2 of the 6 are new miniatures as well. Brings the total which will be new to the bones release up to 17 I think. So, even if you have a good selection of Reaper miniatures already, just with those 17 new ones you are only looking at a bit over $5 each. Not too shabby already and it still has a long way to go before it is over:

**Azazelx**

Reaperbryan wrote:Yes, we are almost finished with the Pledge Manager, but anything you "add" after the fact doesn't count towards stretch goals, so I strongly encourage you to have as much as possible in your pledge at the time of close.

Of course, but you can't pledge what you don't have.

**Slinky**

scipio.au wrote:
Reaperbryan wrote:Yes, we are almost finished with the Pledge Manager, but anything you "add" after the fact doesn't count towards stretch goals, so I strongly encourage you to have as much as possible in your pledge at the time of close.

Of course, but you can't pledge what you don't have.

That's what credit cards were invented for!

**Sean_OBrien**

scipio.au wrote:
Reaperbryan wrote:Yes, we are almost finished with the Pledge Manager, but anything you "add" after the fact doesn't count towards stretch goals, so I strongly encourage you to have as much as possible in your pledge at the time of close.

Of course, but you can't pledge what you don't have.

Because of the large variety of options in this - a lot of people are going in for halves on the initial Vampire pledge and than sorting out who gets the freebies and adding on additional options to settle the fights. Pretty descent way to pick up a lot of character/monster options for wargames as well as fairly well make you set for awhile for RPG characters and "bosses".

With any luck over the next two weeks - there will be more variety added to the middle of the playing field as well. Reaper has a very deep catalog of stuff to choose from, it almost hurts just to think about what may or may not make the cut.

**SilverMK2**

I think we need more monks, certainly at least a male and female monk

**Azazelx**

Slinky wrote:
scipio.au wrote:
Reaperbryan wrote:Yes, we are almost finished with the Pledge Manager, but anything you "add" after the fact doesn't count towards stretch goals, so I strongly encourage you to have as much as possible in your pledge at the time of close.

Of course, but you can't pledge what you don't have.

That's what credit cards were invented for!

I don't have one - and this is a perfect example of why!

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Sean_OBrien wrote:
Because of the large variety of options in this - a lot of people are going in for halves on the initial Vampire pledge and than sorting out who gets the freebies and adding on additional options to settle the fights. Pretty descent way to pick up a lot of character/monster options for wargames as well as fairly well make you set for awhile for RPG characters and "bosses".

With any luck over the next two weeks - there will be more variety added to the middle of the playing field as well. Reaper has a very deep catalog of stuff to choose from, it almost hurts just to think about what may or may not make the cut.

Heh. I'm looking at Vampire (maybe x2), a box of Sophies, the other biker-Sophie and 1 or 2x of most/many of the add-on extras. Not sure about the paints or a couple of figure cases as well. Hence my need for a pledge manager afterwards.

**czakk**

Deathsleet for 10 dollars is the next stretch goal!

**ruff**

czakk wrote:Deathsleet for 10 dollars is the next stretch goal!

This is crazy.. I will need to scrape up $150 for what I want right now.. lol.. God knows what else I will have to have later..

**Eilif**

czakk wrote:Deathsleet for 10 dollars is the next stretch goal!

Spoiler:

OOH, that is nice! I only need one large dragon though, so I'm probably going to force myself to choose between Deathsleet and Ebonwrath.

This is going to be a tough decision.

**SilverMK2**

Eilif wrote:This is going to be a tough decision.

Personally I would go for Deathsleet.

**Bolognesus**

Eilif wrote:OOH, that is nice! I only need one large dragon though, so I'm probably going to force myself to choose between Deathsleet and Ebonwrath.

This is going to be a tough decision.

'Oi Boss! I'z foundz da error

**Sean_OBrien**

@Eilif - Don't worry, I have a suspicion that the choice is only going to get harder. They have 12 big dragons, only two of which have been included so far. I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch more of them in the next 12 days - and the ones which are still to come look even better.