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Chad Warden wrote:are the Sophie miniatures bones or metal?

Sophie is Metal

Bones are Bones plastic

The fire elementals (upcoming stretch goal) are translucent plastic of some sort (ie NOT identical properties to bones) from what's been said on KS

They appear to be metal. Short-run special editions.

The sophie is metal. That was confirmed early on in a comment on Kickstarter..

I wasn't interested... until I saw the dragons...

Combined with the giants...

It helped a lot when they posted he scale shots...

Must resist...

They should be for sale separately later on, Alphy. The $100 buy-in is a great deal, but I don't need/want most of those figures.

The translucent green figs are going to be awesome..

kronk wrote:They should be for sale separately later on, Alphy. The $100 buy-in is a great deal, but I don't need/want most of those figures.

OTOH they will cost more than they do now. if you were to eventually buy substantial amounts of these minis anyway you're better off getting them now; it's nowhere near $100 for the vampire minis anymore, then. besides, what DM can't design a campaign around his mini collection instead of the other way around?

Alpharius wrote:Haven't we reached the point where scarletsquig breaks everything down for us and tells us what exactly we'll get at the 'sweet spot' level?

Please?

Try this link:

http://greg.botch.com/bones/

Slinky wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Haven't we reached the point where scarletsquig breaks everything down for us and tells us what exactly we'll get at the 'sweet spot' level?

Please?

Try this link:

http://greg.botch.com/bones/

That link is excellent, and is exactly what I was looking for (Minus the always excellent and on point scarletsquig touch, of course!) - thanks!

So for my HE army I was thinking of using Dragon Whelps as "counts as" Great Eagles. Would the smaller dragons in this kickstarter work for those? or are they too big?

There's a comparison shot a page or two back that shows the dragons next to an average sized wizard.

While I may not be a fan of the inconsistency of the aesthetic/quality of some the sculpts, it is very hard for me to argue with 60 minis for $125, especially with that many potential gribblies for tabletop D&D encounters plus only $25 for a case to fit the lot. That and there are those gems in the rough which make it all worthwhile

Had to scroll down a lot to find out exactly how many models the case held though.

Regardless, my tax refund is going straight into a $100 set.

Ehsteve wrote:While I may not be a fan of the inconsistency of the aesthetic/quality of some the sculpts, it is very hard for me to argue with 60 minis for $125, especially with that many potential gribblies for tabletop D&D encounters plus only $25 for a case to fit the lot. That and there are those gems in the rough which make it all worthwhile

Had to scroll down a lot to find out exactly how many models the case held though.

Regardless, my tax refund is going straight into a $100 set.

that would be 102 mini's for $125 by now.
about the case, bryan wade from outrider hobbies had this to say:

Hey everyone, so a quick update. IF the tray redesign gets approved you will be able to fit 150 figures in this case.

Bolognesus wrote:

Ehsteve wrote:While I may not be a fan of the inconsistency of the aesthetic/quality of some the sculpts, it is very hard for me to argue with 60 minis for $125, especially with that many potential gribblies for tabletop D&D encounters plus only $25 for a case to fit the lot. That and there are those gems in the rough which make it all worthwhile

Had to scroll down a lot to find out exactly how many models the case held though.

Regardless, my tax refund is going straight into a $100 set.

that would be 102 mini's for $125 by now.
about the case, bryan wade from outrider hobbies had this to say:

Hey everyone, so a quick update. IF the tray redesign gets approved you will be able to fit 150 figures in this case.

Bugger me that's a lot.

The sheer volume of minis is almost overwhelming. I assume all the metals are pewter rather than their lower-cost lead figures (of which I still have a few)?

Bolognesus wrote:

Ehsteve wrote:While I may not be a fan of the inconsistency of the aesthetic/quality of some the sculpts, it is very hard for me to argue with 60 minis for $125, especially with that many potential gribblies for tabletop D&D encounters plus only $25 for a case to fit the lot. That and there are those gems in the rough which make it all worthwhile

Had to scroll down a lot to find out exactly how many models the case held though.

Regardless, my tax refund is going straight into a $100 set.

that would be 102 mini's for $125 by now.
about the case, bryan wade from outrider hobbies had this to say:

Hey everyone, so a quick update. IF the tray redesign gets approved you will be able to fit 150 figures in this case.

And I approved the redesign about 4 hours ago. Just waiting on a prototype model to get shots of the final thing. 6 trays, each with 25 pockets, instead of the 15 pockets shown.

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Bugger me that's a lot.

The sheer volume of minis is almost overwhelming. I assume all the metals are pewter rather than their lower-cost lead figures (of which I still have a few)?

@ Reaperbryan, when the minis in translucent plastic go on sale after the Kickstarter will they still be translucent or will they shift over to standard Bones plastic?

@Alpharius: There isn't really a need for a big text post explaining everything with this one, there's only really one tier of free stuff open to the public, and that's the $100 vampire level.

Of course, simplicity has its pros and cons.. I can't for instance just go ahead and buy 2 big dragons and 6 little ones like I want to, it's not a pick n' mix shop like some other kickstarters are, gotta put down the $100 to unlock the extras.

Considering that $100 is actually $150+ for me as a UK citizen ($25 shipping + 25% minimum customs fees), not having the ability to place a smaller pledge prevents me from supporting this one... if I could make a $60 pledge made up of the extras I want I'd only have to pay $5 shipping and wouldn't have to pay any customs fees at all since it would come in at under the import limit.

Still following this with extreme interest though, since no-one else in the gaming industry is making affordable large plastic monsters at this point in time.

Stuff like the translucent ghosts are also extremely cool, since you don't need to paint them, they look awesome straight out of the blister.

Building up my shopping list for March next year, even though I won't be a backer.

scarletsquig wrote:Considering that $100 is actually $150+ for me as a UK citizen ($25 shipping + 25% minimum customs fees), not having the ability to place a smaller pledge prevents me from supporting this one... if I could make a $60 pledge made up of the extras I want I'd only have to pay $5 shipping and wouldn't have to pay any customs fees at all since it would come in at under the import limit.

This is kind of the problem I am having - the pay for "bonus" models are pretty much all I really want from the vampire level stuff, yet to get all I want I would still have to lump on the cost of vampire and the $25 postage which puts it way out of my price range.

If I went up to vampire level, I would not be able to afford any of the extra stuff and would have the added cost of a much more likely customs bill as well...

at least the large monsters will be out in plastic after the KS.

Yes they will proabably be twice the cost, but this may well prove cheaper for international buyers (if they don't want the rest of the vampire level)

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:at least the large monsters will be out in plastic after the KS.

Yes they will proabably be twice the cost, but this may well prove cheaper for international buyers (if they don't want the rest of the vampire level)

Looking at the cost of the current giants, they will be about 4 times the cost, given that individual giants are between about $20-$40 each, and they are in here 2 for $10...

@Scarletsquig
isn't there someone you know (at least tangentially, via forums or whatever...) who could buy a couple of extras for you? it'd just be the extra customs fee you'd pay on top of the stated price - and that's rather more doable.
I'm probably getting some extras along with my vamp pledge for some folks I hardly know too; can't imagine there wouldn't be any UK-based backers who could do the same for you and folks in a similar predicament

Reaperbryan wrote:And I approved the redesign about 4 hours ago. Just waiting on a prototype model to get shots of the final thing. 6 trays, each with 25 pockets, instead of the 15 pockets shown.

aww? I actually rather liked the idea of a mixed 30-slot tray and 15-slot tray layout...
with the shipping outrider hobbies tags on to us EU folks getting replacement trays is out of the question, too, if not via the KS. I'll probably get one or two still, of course. still a good deal.
...and sorry for my earlier (perceived) rudeness here; I'll gladly condede it's a smashing deal by now

SilverMK2 wrote:

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:at least the large monsters will be out in plastic after the KS.

Yes they will proabably be twice the cost, but this may well prove cheaper for international buyers (if they don't want the rest of the vampire level)

Looking at the cost of the current giants, they will be about 4 times the cost, given that individual giants are between about $20-$40 each, and they are in here 2 for $10...

Reaper actually answered a question about the approx costs of the Giants/ebonwraith in Bones inthe KS chat (remember in the current calatlogue they're metal)

Giants would probably be $7.99 to $9.99

Ebonwraith would be $19.99 to $24.99

(as far as my memory goes). Now these arn't price promises from them, but should give an idea of what to expect

would you know if Ebonwraith would include one of those spiffy cases at the $19,99-$24,99 price point?

I doubt the dragon will come with a case. Seeing the metal figs come in a blister.

ruff wrote:I doubt the dragon will come with a case. Seeing the metal figs come in a blister.

Uhhm, you do realize he's a boxed set now?

Bolognesus wrote:

ruff wrote:I doubt the dragon will come with a case. Seeing the metal figs come in a blister.

Uhhm, you do realize he's a boxed set now?

Reaper boxed sets do come in a case. AFAIK, the large dragons formerly came in boxes.

However, I'm pretty sure this was answered on the reaper forums (hard to be sure when the "bones" thread is 74 pages long) to the effect that the dragons and paint sets do not come with a plastic case.

I'm pretty sure that they said they haven't even decided if the kickstarter figs (asside from the retailer deal) will come in blisters. They might, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they came bagged (or in one bag) without blisters. I assume the multipart models would be bagged separately.

If you want the reaper "boxed set" style case: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Case/latest

I'd advise skipping reaper and buying a pistol case of the same dimensions. Here's a few that cost less than half of a reaper case.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?sort=priceLow&catid=996&pagenumber=2
A pic of one

Reaper buys their cases from a company that also sells it as a pistol case and eggshell foam is eggshell foam, so I don't see a difference aside from the lack of silly sticker art

All that said, the miniatures case in the kickstarter is much larger, with precut trays, and an excellent deal at $25

I know it's just a pistol case, but look at the flag beside my name. do you think they sell pistol cases here (at least, at a decent price/availability?). bah.

the good thing about reaper is I'd get free shipping above €35 which really makes them the cheapest way to get such cases here.

the KS case is great and I'm getting two - for medium-big games.
for some smaller skirmish games those small cases are great - they're cheap, you can just throw one or two of them into a bag and they take a hell of a beating without as much as a scratch or chip on your models.
I'm not going to take a 16"x12" case to bring 10-25 mini's

Bolognesus wrote:I know it's just a pistol case, but look at the flag beside my name. do you think they sell pistol cases here (at least, at a decent price/availability?). ...

...for some smaller skirmish games those small cases are great - they're cheap, you can just throw one or two of them into a bag and they take a hell of a beating without as much as a scratch or chip on your models.P

I'd recommend just finding a plastic case (pencil case, slide case, Cigar box etc) you like the size of and putting two pieces of eggshell in it. I've got a number of cases that I've repurposed simply by putting in some foam that I scavenged from packaging (or you can buy it at the store). Most of these I found at resale shops. My favorite is a metal microscope slide case that's nice and thin and really strong. You can just put foam in it and go, but with foam cut the same way as my case tutorial...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/362407.page
...I can fit about 30 figures in there!
Like you I have big cases for my armies, but when I go to play skirmish games, I just slide (pun intended) this into my bag. With scavenged foam, I figure I probably spend about 2-4 dollars one each of my repurposed cases.

Eilif wrote:With scavenged foam, I figure I probably spend about 2-4 dollars one each of my repurposed cases.

Crazy thing though is that on the high side - that isn't too much of a savings based on figures it can hold. The current design is 150 miniatures per case for $25. You get 30 miniatures for $4 in yours. To get the same number of miniatures, you would need 5 cases...$20. Not saying that yours isn't a good option, just pointing out that that case is a very good value.