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 BrookM wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
I've been seduced by the Skitarii box. 100% impulse buy, especially after discount.

 BrookM wrote:
For me it's the massive discount on the Skitarii boxed set, €47 off! Mind, I only play 30K these days, but I'm sure I can find a use for both the Skitarii and Onager somehow.

Imperial Militia!

Ha, hell no! I play Solar Auxilia already, no way am I also going to play that horde army!

Cyber Augmetics + Survivors of the Dark Age provenances, enjoy your modestly-sized(by Heresy human standards ) 3+/6++ save-Grenadier army.

I may use the Skitarii as a Tech-Thrall Covenant, that just leaves me with a use for the Onager.

Why not just use them as-is? I think Forgeworld have said it's fine to use the Skitarri dex in 30k at the moment, at least until Skitarii get their own rules for 30k.

 Imateria wrote:
Why not just use them as-is? I think Forgeworld have said it's fine to use the Skitarri dex in 30k at the moment, at least until Skitarii get their own rules for 30k.

No, I personally refuse to mix 30K and 40K. We'll soon be starting up a small 30k league at the store and we all want it to be pure 30k, so no Unbound or formation stuff, because that's something we're all quite tired of.

If only Skitarii has a HQ choice... If they did you could just use the AoD force chart.

Dammit GW!

 wuestenfux wrote:

Requizen wrote:
That Necron formation is pretty freaking silly. Warriors go from hard to kill to "lol never die as long as the Overlord is alive".

I mean sure, they're just Warriors, and don't have ObSec or 4+ RP from Decurion, but an unkillable unit is pretty good.

Indeed, the Necron formation is a bit silly. The formation itself looks a bit weak.

It does seem a bit odd.
If we're to go by the previously posted info, the formation only benefits the Warriors and Scarabs, but the Stalker gets nor gives nothing?
Something doesn't seem right there... like it's literally been shoehorned in.
("Quick, we're releasing new starter packs and we're stuck for ideas with the Necron one. We got the main part with the Warrior sprue sorted, but we need to throw something else in... Hmm, what's not selling as well?")

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Well I ordered 2 lizardmen ones and 2 chaos warrior ones for my Kings of War projects I'm working on. I love that I can get a new Carnosaur for 25% off and get a regiment of saurus warriors and coldone cav for free. And the Chaos ones are nice even if part of the value is the sorcerer but I'll probably sell one of those off. The rest of the kit is perfect.

Could you please tell us more about it? Two factions, one project?

I'm actually rounding out my "Salamanders" army for Kings of War with the Lizardmen kits. The chaos are being combined with 2 Beastmen battalions I ordered at the same time for a 6th/7th edition Chaos Fantasy army feel with beastmen and warriors of chaos that Kings of War just released rules for

It's too bad they didn't make some of these starters for Lord of the Rings / The Hobbit.

 TheWaspinator wrote:
It's too bad they didn't make some of these starters for Lord of the Rings / The Hobbit.

Make a LotR Hobbit military set!!!

I would love one, but it wouldn't really work. Most of the Hobbit range is fine cast, therefore much more expensive compared to the 40K and AOS bundles which are mostly plastic. So the Hobbit box sets would be like double the price. Might work for Mirkwood, because they can do Rangers + Palace Guard, or Hunter Orcs with Hunter Orcs + Orc Riders + Fell Wargs, or Erebor with Erebor Warriors + Grimhammers.

Gundabad Orcs, Laketown etc would be completely finecast.

Edit: come to think of it, thats still 3 factions they can do for the Hobbit using the Hobbit plastics.

Its just my fething luck that I've already got all of those plastic sets individually bar the Orc Riders.

Isn't Hobbit/LotR under Specialist Games now anyway?

Not yet, no. Thats just rumour and speculation, but it is likely.

The LOTR/Hobbit SBG is shaping up to be the new Bloodbowl in terms of long term lingering popularity and a dedicated and enthusiastic community despite lack of support. Discontinuing it altogether would be a mistake, like it was a mistake to scrap Bloodbowl. The range is almost 100% complete, we just need a few new variants of existing Heroes - Armoured Azog, the unreleased Thorins Company - and a couple of blatantly missing models - Dain Ironfoot, Dwarf battlegoat cavarly, and the Gundabad Trolls. Maybe they could retool the existing plastic Isengard/Mordor troll kit, or do an upgrade sprue with unique armour, weapons and heads that fit onto the plastic troll kit.

If we get those missing models (along with rules for Dain, the Dwarf goat riders and the trolls, then the range will be complete and I'll be happy for years to come. They just need to keep as much of the range as possible available for as long as possible (maybe do small production runs every year to replenish stock only when it runs out).

It would be nice to get another Overlord into the Decurion. This formation isn't really cheaper than a royal court but totally different applications, less unwieldy for sure. I would be all about this if it was a unit of Stalkers.

Requizen wrote:
Isn't Hobbit/LotR under Specialist Games now anyway?

It's a seperate branch to them but under the same division. According to someone who was at the birthday bash thing at least; Forge World is now split into three sections, a 30k/40k/AoS section (led by Alan Bligh), a Specialist Games section, and a Middle Earth section.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
If only Skitarii has a HQ choice... If they did you could just use the AoD force chart.

Dammit GW!

I'm not looking to play 40k armies in a 30k setting though.

The point still stands though. While FW has supposedly said you can use the Skitarii codex for the time being you can't play using the AoD rules properly.

EDIT: I'm using 'you' in the general sense in this post.

 BrookM wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
Why not just use them as-is? I think Forgeworld have said it's fine to use the Skitarri dex in 30k at the moment, at least until Skitarii get their own rules for 30k.

No, I personally refuse to mix 30K and 40K. We'll soon be starting up a small 30k league at the store and we all want it to be pure 30k, so no Unbound or formation stuff, because that's something we're all quite tired of.

We don't mix 30k and 40k here either, say using a LR Crusader in a 30k army.
But its perfectly fine to use a 40k ally force in a 30k army, or vice versa.

In case it was missed, the 40k boxes do not contain the unit rules/points (formation only).

You would still require the codex to play them.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
Why not just use them as-is? I think Forgeworld have said it's fine to use the Skitarri dex in 30k at the moment, at least until Skitarii get their own rules for 30k.

No, I personally refuse to mix 30K and 40K. We'll soon be starting up a small 30k league at the store and we all want it to be pure 30k, so no Unbound or formation stuff, because that's something we're all quite tired of.

We don't mix 30k and 40k here either, say using a LR Crusader in a 30k army.
But its perfectly fine to use a 40k ally force in a 30k army, or vice versa.

Allies from 40k is another thing we don't run around here. We're a bunch of fun-hating jerks I suppose.

Not even Daemons for Word Bearers/Cults? Harsh.

But now we're getting way off topic...

Can you preorder/order these through an FLGS, or is it a webstore exclusive?

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Can you preorder/order these through an FLGS, or is it a webstore exclusive?

Yes you can, at least I've seen them available online from UK discounters with an extra 25% off in some cases. It's certainly piqued my interest anyway!

No doubt it'll be the same in the U.S.

I've got my fingers crossed for an Ork and Kabalite Dark Eldar army starter at some point in the future as well!

I ordered 4 from Frontline for an additional 25% off the price. Meant getting them for around $65 which is super nice for what you get.

Does anyone have the official rules for the new Imperial Guard formation? I can't find them :(

 ae2016 wrote:
Does anyone have the official rules for the new Imperial Guard formation? I can't find them :(

They're in the box.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ae2016 wrote:
Does anyone have the official rules for the new Imperial Guard formation? I can't find them :(

They're in the box.

I know, I ordered 3 of them but won't have them until Saturday. I'm wondering if somebody has a leaked picture of the formation rules.

Nobody's posted a picture aside from of the Skitarii one as far as I know.

These are the only ones I could find:

I don't understand the Tau one. So you can like, pivot them around one model? One has to stay still, and then the rest can just shuffle around as long as they stay in coherency? Seems odd, very limited in use.

If Tyranid Warriors weren't so bad, the Hive Vanguard might be pretty good in conjunction with a Tyrannocyte to put the Warriors in.

Requizen wrote:
I don't understand the Tau one. So you can like, pivot them around one model? One has to stay still, and then the rest can just shuffle around as long as they stay in coherency? Seems odd, very limited in use.

If Tyranid Warriors weren't so bad, the Hive Vanguard might be pretty good in conjunction with a Tyrannocyte to put the Warriors in.

If you could use Breachers instead of Strike Team it would be so much better.

Not terible at ensuring you remain safe from assault, just pick the dude the furtherest away, he stays there, everyone else redeploys behind at max coherency and then you can still move back 6" and rapidfire. The more spread out you are, the better this gets.

Can also use to suddenly string out in a conga line at max coherency (10 dudes on 32 mm bases and 2" coherency gives (32 x 10 + 8 x 25 + 3 x 25 = 595mm) 23.8 inches, just slightly less than 2 feet to claim objectives, add another ~6" if you've got a pair of drones too, useful for last turn objective grabbing, or even current turn objective grabbing if maelstrom.

Could also be used to launch surprise turn 1 assaults on vehicles if you take EMP grenades, string out in a big conga line 24" after deploying on the line, move 6", charge 2d6 and haywire the crap out of something like a knight or a land raider. Major lulz.

Sorry if already asked, but is there anything in the Nurgle or Khorne sets that you cannot use in 40K?