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Really tempted by the Nurgle one, and the missus likes the Lizards.

Bravo GW!

 Happygrunt wrote:
Found an online retailer selling the New Army boxes for 25% off.

Care to share a link?

The Nurgle one is quite good actually.

But I've sold my soul to the Omnissiah, so no Plague Father for me.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Nurgle one is quite good actually.

But I've sold my soul to the Omnissiah, so no Plague Father for me.

I saw that, but I don't know much about Nurgle (or any demons...)

Is it good for 40K, AoS, or just price?

The good thing about the Chaos Daemon models is that they can be used in 40K or Fantasy... AoS... whatever.

It's just a decent spread of minis - 3 units + a leader - for that price.

I'd be using them for KoW, personally.

That seems counter-productive.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That seems counter-productive.

Why?

I like these models. I like KoW. I'd like to use these models for KoW.

Sorry if that somehow offends you.

Settle down Choppa. Did I say it offends me?

It was just my understanding that people bought KOW models to play Fantasy as it was cheaper that way, and not the other way around.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Settle down Choppa. Did I say it offends me?

It was just my understanding that people bought KOW models to play Fantasy as it was cheaper that way, and not the other way around.

Then your understanding is definitely not 100% accurate. There are folks out there who like the look of many of GW's models but also want a good set of massed battle fantasy rules. I'm definitely in that camp and I fully intend to use my GW models to play KoW.

Valete,

JohnS

Ugh the resistance is weak, found a good deal through a guy I know and am getting 3 skitarii boxes and 1 Marine box. If I get an especially good paycheck I may even pick a guard one since I can use the cadians as bits for conversions and I can always use another Commissar and Russ.

Why the hell I'm buying this stuff I don't even know, I don't even play, I just paint now.

 giantearlessgnome wrote:
Also it looks like the space marine one includes the terminator captain originally from the Strike Force Ultra box (released in Spring 2014 if i recall).

He was going for about £50-120 on ebay at the time.

Cannot remember if he was limited edition or not.

There is no "Limited Edition" here. There were as many figures as Strike Force boxes. Now he's in the Get Started box.

I'm pretty interested in the Greenskinz one to be honest, I got a bunch of Orcs cheapsies when my friend moved over to BC and I play with AoS now and then with my friends. Having a proper Orc Warboss model on a Boar and some Boar Boyz sounds mighty fine for that price point, plus Orc Boar Boyz have always looked great to me.

Sucks that they don't have one of these boxes for every race for either 40K or AoS yet though. Hopefully when certain armies get updated (looking at you CSM) that they release one of these sets alongside it.

The Slaves to Darkness box is really great. But nobody plays AoS here.

Please GW, all I want is a formation where my admech can get objective secured.

Totally getting the Admech one. Considering the Nurgle one too. These look like fantastic starters. I'm glad I put off daemons

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Ugh the resistance is weak, found a good deal through a guy I know and am getting 3 skitarii boxes and 1 Marine box. If I get an especially good paycheck I may even pick a guard one since I can use the cadians as bits for conversions and I can always use another Commissar and Russ.

Why the hell I'm buying this stuff I don't even know, I don't even play, I just paint now.

Impulse buy.
So you're a painter and collector and therefore in the main focus of GW.

Yeah, thanks, GW, but I already have a huge backlog to clear, AND I have no interest in starting any new armies, I've got about every army that interests me, thanks.

 Alex C wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That seems counter-productive.

Why?

I like these models. I like KoW. I'd like to use these models for KoW.

Sorry if that somehow offends you.

Go for it. I don't think GW give a gak about what you use them for so long as you are buying them.

The are a model company after all...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Alex C wrote:
I'd be using them for KoW, personally.

That seems counter-productive.

A lot of "vets" hate AoS and some of them are moving to KoW rules as a replacement for Fantasy. They can use all their current models with a better ruleset.

Do we know if these sets are limited availability in any way?
Not sure I can justify spending any one these this month so close to Xmas, but might have to if they are gonna be sold out by next month...

Probably. These are apparently supposed to be the new battleforce-style boxes, but practically everything GW does is limited now. Hate to be negative, but it sounds just like the kinda thing GW would do; make an introductory product designed to get new people into the game or encourage existing players to start new armies, a pretty wise decision when sales keep falling year after year and you seemingly have more people leaving the game than you have people buying in almost solely because of high prices (and gak rules, but you know)...and then making it super limited because they're deathly afraid of losing any money at all by offering people discounts, since they assume everyone would have just bought the kits at full retail anyway if they had no other option (even though they apparently aren't).

The Tau box is especially bizarre to me, since those fire warriors literally just got redone (with an absurd $50 price tag to boot), and now they're practically giving them away? They have to be limited, there's no way GW would allow that to go on for long. In any case I got one, and might get one more next week if there's one on the shelf.

Well, considering the Crisis suits are insanely jacked up in price, I'm assuming these boxes are still profitable, and if people decide to buy more boxes because of the deal, then they are making more money.

Even if you get them through a discounter, and start a Tau army, then you need to get a commander, a riptide, a storm surge, a codex...

I frankly love these new deals and am seriously considering picking up a box of admech to try out. I already have the terminator captain, so no rush to get that for me.

But my backlog is already so huge. :( two betrayals at calth, two imperial Knights, a strike force ultra box, the primarch, a knight Castigator, two sicarans, not to mention the stuff I have gotten second hand...

Then there are my poor, half painted, neglected daemons... My dads old tau.., my brothers dark Angels...

 Breotan wrote:
A lot of "vets" hate AoS and some of them are moving to KoW rules as a replacement for Fantasy. They can use all their current models with a better ruleset.

KoW of course being far better when it comes to pick-up games compared to WFB because WFB is (technically) dead thanks to the Sigmarines.

Ok, I get it now.

I do wonder whether some kits that are normally dual purpose are limited to one purpose. The Malignant one comes with a mortis engine, but no hint that it might be a coven throne. Is the sprue set such that they could provide the mortis engine but not the coven throne?

I noticed too that they're doing a cheaper bundle for both Admech books - granted you still need both books for the starter kit, but 66 bucks for two full-size codexes is pretty awesome.

I don't even play Admech and I want to start an army now, heh.

I think I might buy the codexes just because actually...

I'm really tempted to pick up a couple of the Nurgle sets as I'm short on Heralds and have no flying vacuums. Bit weird that the Daemon box sets aren't listed in the 40k section unless I'm missing something?

Probably because the data slates in the daemon one is for AoS.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Probably because the data slates in the daemon one is for AoS.

This seems to be the reason. But the models are perfectly fine for 40k as well.

Somebody asked earlier what the savings were for each of these starter sets, as opposed to buying individual boxes, and because I'm a good guy and because I've nothing else to do, it being a Sunday, I've decided to list the money saved for each starter set.

All prices are in British pounds, and all prices are taken from the GW webstore and not discounters such as Wayland Games.

If I'm 1 or 2 pounds out, then I'll see you in court

Ok, here we go, 40k first:

Necrons - you save £19

Imperial Guard - you save £21

Space Marines - you save £21 (based on venerable dreadnought and standard captain being part of the force. I don't know half of these new space marine units.)

Tau - you save £35!!! Bargains to be had with the Tau.

Skitarii - you save £35!!! Another bargain.

Tyranids - you save £32. This would be the case if it were 10 gargoyles instead of 8 (10 in a box) but still a good saving with two less gargoyles, or whatever those flying things are called

Blood angels - you save zero!

Harlequins - you save zero again

Orks - you save zero again

Dark Eldar - you save...I think you get the general idea now

Codex prices were based on hardback versions

Now for the Fantasy savings:

Nurgle - you save £33 or there about. Another bargain.

Chaos warriors - you save £24. Not bad

Khorne Daemons - you save £26.

Undead - you save £23.

Orcs - you save £21

Lizardmen (no army book deal) - you save around £25. The deal units didn't tally up with what you got in individual boxes, and I couldn't be bothered working it out, but it's still a good deal

And finally, I couldn't be bothered doing the army book deals, as I suspect they'll end up like the 40k deals with the codex. Zero savings in other words

Anyway, don't all thank me at once.